Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-30 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 9:39 PM, wrote: > The main critisism is that we map the same address multiple times, but > in fact they are different things, we have the "Postal Address" at the > entry and then a node for each buisiness/shop at that address, they all > share

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 28. Oct 2017, at 15:56, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > > This is a long-standing issue in OSM. An address is either (1) a feature that > can be mapped on its own right and therefore should only exist once on the > map, or (2) an attribute or property

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-29 Thread Janko Mihelić
We are arguing about a temporary state of affairs. Sooner or later, Nominatim and others will be able to assign addresses to nodes inside a polygon, and renderers will be able to see that the same address is rendered 3 times. Until then we have to do what we can with what we have. And not start

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Oct 2017, at 17:01, Marc Zoutendijk wrote: > > Because all three companies had an office=research tag and because the office > tag is not rendered at all on the standard map(!!) but only shows the > addr:housenumber (when present), the

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-29 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 29 October 2017 at 08:16, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > & I must admit to being "guilty" of listing both types of address - > filling in the address details of the type of building / shop / POI & then > also adding an address node, usually on it's driveway. > > My

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-28 Thread marc marc
Le 28. 10. 17 à 23:16, Graeme Fitzpatrick a écrit : > My reasoning is that my navigation program (OSMAND) doesn't appear to > find street numbers if they're only part of the address, but will if > they're a separate node. I know a lot of area (for exemple Brussels, Belgium) having housenumber

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 29 October 2017 at 00:25, Colin Smale wrote: > Exactly, typical of OSM... If we can't sort this out, we will just > continue to go round in circles. How does one tell the difference, or which > type of address is intended? What if we want to put both types of address >

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-28 Thread Colin Smale
Exactly, typical of OSM... If we can't sort this out, we will just continue to go round in circles. How does one tell the difference, or which type of address is intended? What if we want to put both types of address on the same object? On 28 October 2017 15:56:22 CEST, Eugene Alvin Villar

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-28 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Oct 27, 2017 8:03 AM, "Colin Smale" wrote: Time for a more philosophical discussion... What is the function of this thing we call "address"? Is it to identify a premises? Is it to describe a premises? Does it refer to the whole premises, or just the bit with the front

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-27 Thread Simon Poole
IMHO three nodes is the solution, add level tags if they are not on the same floor. If the address was on the building polygon duplicating the address information on the POI would not be necessary, but knowing Dutch numbering schemes, that likely doesn't make sense. I consider this problem

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-27 Thread Colin Smale
On 2017-10-27 08:07, José G Moya Y. wrote: > But from the outside tou can't see if the office is in "Gran Via 1 shop 2" or > "Gran Via 1 shop 3", despite of the shop number being displayed in the > mailbox. The fact that you can't see it from the outside doesn't make it untrue. Maybe it is

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-27 Thread José G Moya Y .
But from the outside tou can't see if the office is in "Gran Via 1 shop 2" or "Gran Via 1 shop 3", despite of the shop number being displayed in the mailbox. El 27/10/2017 8:03, "Colin Smale" escribió: > Time for a more philosophical discussion... What is the function of

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-26 Thread Andrew Davidson
Two problems: 1. Site relations are for grouping features that can't be represented as an area. 2. The KISS principle. On 27/10/17 13:01, Warin wrote: 1 address on a site relation that contains these features - including the building? On 27-Oct-17 12:31 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: On

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-26 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 27/10/17 11:20, Tom Pfeifer wrote: The OSM rule is clear - "One feature, one OSM element". Thus 3 offices, 3 nodes. So 1 address 1 node (or 1 polygon if you know the spatial extent)? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-26 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 26.10.2017 23:49, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Would an easy solution be to just call them Unit 1, Unit 2 & Unit 3, even though the actual offices may not be physically designated that way? Absolutely not. Please do not invent identifiers that do not exist in reality. Further, it would not

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-26 Thread Andrew Harvey
> Which by definition is wrong because a given street address (addr:city + addr:street + addr:postcode + addr:housenumber) _must be unique_ - at least in the country (The Netherlands) where I live and where I found this situation. Honest question, what is lost or wrong with having the address

Re: [Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-26 Thread marc marc
Hello, Le 26. 10. 17 à 17:01, Marc Zoutendijk a écrit : > Recently I discovered a tagging where at the same street address and > house number, 3 different (although related) companies  are located. The solution that advocates the proposal you mentioned is to put the address on the building and

[Tagging] Multiple offices at the same address - (Multiple values for one key)

2017-10-26 Thread Marc Zoutendijk
Hi all, Recently I discovered a tagging where at the same street address and house number, 3 different (although related) companies are located. Because adding multiple values to the same key is not easy to do in OSM, (mostly used for adding more telephone numbers, separating the numbers with