[Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-03-27 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Following recent international events, i start study nuclear site on OSM. Nuclear power plant seems presents and use power=generator power_source=nuclear power_rating=2000 MW but according to wiki, this was obsolete and needs : power=generator generator:sour

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-03-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/27 Pierre-Alain Dorange : > Following recent international events, i start study nuclear site on > OSM. > > Nuclear power plant seems presents and use >       power=generator >        power_source=nuclear >        power_rating=2000 MW > but according to wiki, this was obsolete and needs : >

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-03-27 Thread Andrew Ainsworth
As someone who works in the industry could I just point a couple of things out. generator:source=nuclear implies fission. There are no fusion generators anywhere in the world. There are experimental fusion reactors dotted around but none of them generate electricity, let alone generate anything fo

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-03-27 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:01:28PM +0100, Andrew Ainsworth wrote: A> As someone who works in the industry could I just point a couple of things A> out. A> A> generator:source=nuclear implies fission. There are no fusion generators A> anywhere in the world. There are experimental fusion reactors do

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-03-27 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > We are making map, not encyclopedia. So we should provide only name of a > power plant, and a link to wikipedia article, where any additional info > can be found, if user of the map is interested in it. > > That would be: > > power=generator > generator:source=nuclear > n

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-03-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/27 Gleb Smirnoff : > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:01:28PM +0100, Andrew Ainsworth wrote: > A> Listing the type of reactor (PWR for example) seems like a reasonable idea > A> but we shouldn't get into tagging safety features such as core catcher. > A> There is a virtually endless list of safety

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-03-27 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 11:04 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/3/27 Gleb Smirnoff : >> We are making map, not encyclopedia. > > no, we are creating a geo database. Someone needs to update the site's name and its introductory material (e.g. "OpenStreetMap is a free editable map of the whole w

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-03-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/28 Anthony : > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 11:04 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> 2011/3/27 Gleb Smirnoff : >>> We are making map, not encyclopedia. >> >> no, we are creating a geo database. > > Someone needs to update the site's name and its introductory material > (e.g. "OpenStreetMap is a

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-03-27 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:11 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/3/28 Anthony : >> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 11:04 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer >> wrote: >>> 2011/3/27 Gleb Smirnoff : We are making map, not encyclopedia. >>> >>> no, we are creating a geo database. >> >> Someone needs to update th

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-03-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/28 Anthony : >>> Someone needs to update the site's name and its introductory material >>> (e.g. "OpenStreetMap is a free editable map of the whole world") >> >> >> maybe "someone" already did, I read in the front page, first sentence: >> "Welcome to OpenStreetMap >> OpenStreetMap creates an

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-03-27 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:20 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/3/28 Anthony : Someone needs to update the site's name and its introductory material (e.g. "OpenStreetMap is a free editable map of the whole world") >>> >>> >>> maybe "someone" already did, I read in the front page, firs

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-03-27 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:20 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer >> the front page at osm.org reads "The Free Wiki World Map" below the >> logo in the upper left corner. Where do you read the text? > > at http://www.openstreetmap.org/ right under the logo.  St

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-04-01 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 27.03.2011 12:24, schrieb Pierre-Alain Dorange: Following recent international events, i start study nuclear site on OSM. Nuclear power plant seems presents and use power=generator power_source=nuclear power_rating=2000 MW but according to wiki, this was obsolete and

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-04-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/1 Ulf Lamping : > Am 27.03.2011 12:24, schrieb Pierre-Alain Dorange: >> >> Following recent international events, i start study nuclear site on >> OSM. >> >> Nuclear power plant seems presents and use >>        power=generator >>         power_source=nuclear >>         power_rating=2000 MW >

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-04-01 Thread SomeoneElse
On 01/04/2011 13:42, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2011/4/1 Ulf Lamping: Excellent example of wiki fiddling ... at least this was discussed and voted about: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/generator_rationalisation But not greatly used: http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Plane

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-04-02 Thread David Murn
On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 14:42 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> > >> This (new ?) schema seems not often used (some plant has the 2). > > > > Excellent example of wiki fiddling ... > > > at least this was discussed and voted about: Im sure I remember seeing this discussed either on here or po

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-04-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 02.04.2011 11:03, schrieb David Murn: On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 14:42 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: This (new ?) schema seems not often used (some plant has the 2). Excellent example of wiki fiddling ... at least this was discussed and voted about: Im sure I remember seeing this discu

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-04-02 Thread David Murn
On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 12:11 +0200, Ulf Lamping wrote: > Am 02.04.2011 11:03, schrieb David Murn: > > > If someone comes up with a proposal, discusses it on mailing lists, > > emails current users of the tag, casts and finishes a vote, how on earth > > can you call it wiki-fiddling? > > Yes, but if

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-04-03 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 03.04.2011 04:26, schrieb David Murn: On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 12:11 +0200, Ulf Lamping wrote: *... and I'll especially call it wiki fiddling if the currently widely used tags are removed from the wiki without even keeping a note of the old tags.* Doesnt the fact that the proposal exists, outl

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-04-11 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
M?rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > at least this was discussed and voted about: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/generator_rationalisation I build a nuclear power plant map upon those information (vote schema and old schema compatible) :

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-04-17 Thread Tom Chance
On 2 April 2011 11:11, Ulf Lamping wrote: > This way we'll have to change each and every tag every year because someone > finds the "new and improved" way to do things as the current tag fashion > expects him to. > Ulf, the new schema was introduced after quite a lot of discussion, changes to th

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-04-17 Thread Andreas Hubel
Hi, Am 12.04.2011 um 07:24 schrieb Pierre-Alain Dorange: > Building this tool, i also notice that some tag reactor (one tag per > reactor) and other tag power plant site (one tag for the power plant). Do you have some numbers? I also noticed this when i looked at the local reactor: http://www.o

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-04-17 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Andreas Hubel wrote: > > Building this tool, i also notice that some tag reactor (one tag per > > reactor) and other tag power plant site (one tag for the power plant). > > Do you have some numbers? No just lookign aroudn at some power plant in different country. > I also noticed this when i l

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-04-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/17 Andreas Hubel : > the plant site is a way with >        • barrier: fence >        • name: Kernkraftwerk Gundremmingen >        • power: generator >        • power_source: nuclear > Additional there would be a ton of additional options by using relations ;-) I suggest not to mix linear a

Re: [Tagging] Nuclear Key

2011-04-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/17 Pierre-Alain Dorange : > I thougth tagging each reactor has "power=generator" is a mistake. The > site must be tagged 'power=generator' and perhaps can we have another > tag dedicated to indivudual reactor. OK, I see this would be consistent. >> C) remove all power tags from the way,