Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

2017-03-20 19:23 GMT+01:00 yo paseopor : > whether the node is independent or part of one or more ways depends on the >> situation and mapper. Even if the node is now part of just one way, in the >> future this might change and it can become member of more ways (e.g. if the

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > whether the node is independent or part of one or more ways depends on the > situation and mapper. Even if the node is now part of just one way, in the > future this might change and it can become member of

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Topographe Fou wrote: > Hi, > > I put stops, give ways and traffic light where the car has to stop/yield > which can be far from the position of the sign (for instance in the US > where the light is after the junction, thus may not be

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

Since nodes lack direction, but relations do... seems like a stop sign relation would be ideal, with multiple ways for the "from" role and the node where it applies as the "to" role, with the actual stop sign locations as the "device" role, similar to how enforcement is tagged. On Mar 19, 2017

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > Since nodes lack direction, but relations do... seems like a stop sign > relation would be ideal, with multiple ways for the "from" role and the node > where it applies as the "to" role, with the actual stop sign

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

2017-03-19 20:55 GMT+01:00 yo paseopor : > Why you accept a line and not a dot in the same place knowing the > information of the way the node it is [5]? because a line/way has a direction, a node hasn't. It is simple as that. You can continue to insist in mapping

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

2017-03-19 20:55 GMT+01:00 yo paseopor : > In OSM mappers assume something until this thing has become more important > and then need to redefine the way the key is applied with subkeys and other > values.Think about bus stops for example [2] For bus stops, nothing has

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

2017-03-19 20:55 GMT+01:00 yo paseopor : > but the way the node is in yes it does. Node it is not independent. It is > in a way. whether the node is independent or part of one or more ways depends on the situation and mapper. Even if the node is now part of just one way,

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

age original   De: t...@fitchdesign.com Envoyé: 17 mars 2017 11:26 PM À: tagging@openstreetmap.org Répondre à: tagging@openstreetmap.org Objet: Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag If micro mapping, then the stop sign is usually not in the center of the traveled way (though I have occasionally seen so

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 8:30 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > Unfortunately, I’ve not been able to make the Kendzi3D JOSM plug-in work > for me. I’ll continue to poke at it from time to time as it looks > intriguing. > I have told Kendzi now it is not working (with version 11425 it

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

This has the added complication that the way may have two-way traffic, but the sign doesn't apply to both directions. In fact, most signs don't apply to both sides of a roadway; instead, there will usually be a separate sign for both directions of travel. On March 19, 2017 2:56:02 PM yo

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

> > yes, it is important to be able to understand to which way (and traveling > direction) a sign applies, but nodes do not have a forward or backward > direction but the way the node is in yes it does. Node it is not independent. It is in a way. with a specific direction (you can revert the

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

Unfortunately, I’ve not been able to make the Kendzi3D JOSM plug-in work for me. I’ll continue to poke at it from time to time as it looks intriguing. I did not feel confident in tagging lanes, especially turn lanes, until I found the JOSM plug-in that allowed me to visualize and check the

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

sent from a phone > On 17 Mar 2017, at 22:47, yo paseopor wrote: > > I don't agree with this: marking the direction of the traffic sign is not > noise, for a driver can be VITAL, also with the meaning of the traffic sign > (the main purpose of a traffic sign). yes,

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

> > But at present I am pretty sure that map rendering can’t use > “direction=forward | backward”. It can (and my rendering does) use the > compass points and/or degrees values for rotating icons in the point > symbolizer. As you can see Kendzi3D plug-in [1] and a style for JOSM [2] do it with

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

On 03/17/2017 05:24 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > The “highway=stop | give_way” tag on a node on way might be used by > map rendering, which probably doesn’t care if it has forward or > backward tagging. OsmAnd does a callout for highway=stop but unfortunately ignores the direction=* tag as of the

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

If micro mapping, then the stop sign is usually not in the center of the traveled way (though I have occasionally seen some there). For micro mapping, place a node for the sign where it exists on the side of the road and then use the compass direction to indicate how it is facing. As it is

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

I don't agree with this: marking the direction of the traffic sign is not noise, for a driver can be VITAL, also with the meaning of the traffic sign (the main purpose of a traffic sign). Why? Because in a way with two directions we need to know to what direction traffic sign it is for. It is not

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

Thank you for the insight. I don’t know that it is off topic though as any tagging scheme should be both achievable by a typical mapper and useful to any anticipated data consumers. Something that is easy for taggers but not useful to data consumers is just noise. Something that is useful for a

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

On the routing engine side these tags will be translated to turn penalties for specific turns, so the matching equivalent would probably be from,via,to relations. Which is not a feasible modelling in OSM realistically speaking. Simple stop signs could go on ways, but fail to capture more complex

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

From a data consumer point of view, what type of tagging would be reasonable to indicate the, for lack of a better work, direction of travel a stop, give way or traffic light has effect? > On Mar 17, 2017, at 3:54 AM, Daniel Hofmann wrote: > > Jumping in here to give a

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

Jumping in here to give a perspective from a routing engine (OSRM, https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend#open-source-routing-machine). We do not handle direction tags on nodes which indicate a property for a way or a turn at an intersection. The example with stop signs and give yield signs

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

On 2017-03-16 04:13, Tod Fitch wrote: The “direction” tag [1] has different uses that seem disjoint to me. 2. To specify direction (clockwise/counterclockwise) around a roundabout (not sure why this is needed as it should be apparent from local laws or specified with a “oneway=yes”).

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

2017-03-16 5:13 GMT+01:00 Tod Fitch : > The “direction” tag [1] has different uses that seem disjoint to me. > >1. To specify the orientation (compass point or degrees from north) of >an object (adit or cave entrance, etc.). > > "orientation" would have been a better

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

Hi, Am 2017-03-16 um 05:13 schrieb Tod Fitch: > The “direction” tag [1] has different uses that seem disjoint to me. > To specify the orientation (compass point or degrees from north) of an object > (adit or cave entrance, etc.). > To specify direction (clockwise/counterclockwise) around a

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

: tagging@openstreetmap.orgRépondre à: tagging@openstreetmap.orgObjet: [Tagging] The direction=* tag The “direction” tag [1] has different uses that seem disjoint to me.To specify the orientation (compass point or degrees from north) of an object (adit or cave entrance, etc.). To specify direction

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

Am 16.03.2017 05:13, schrieb Tod Fitch: It seems to me that the first and the third definitions should be split into separate tags with the second definition deprecated. I agree that this situation is suboptimal. The second meaning has nothing to do with a direction but with a sense of

[Tagging] The direction=* tag

The “direction” tag [1] has different uses that seem disjoint to me. To specify the orientation (compass point or degrees from north) of an object (adit or cave entrance, etc.). To specify direction (clockwise/counterclockwise) around a roundabout (not sure why this is needed as it should be