Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-14 Thread Alberto Nogaro
-Original Message- From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:tagging- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of John Smith Sent: domenica 9 gennaio 2011 12.00 To: m...@koppenhoefer.com; Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Towing service? It shouldn't

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 January 2011 04:40, Alberto Nogaro bartosom...@yahoo.it wrote: Maybe the handycraft value might hint that the craft key is used in OSM with a broader meaning? Actually that would indicate to me it was very specific to art works made by hand which would be a much narrower meaning.

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-10 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2011-01-07 02:19, Ulf Lamping wrote: Am 07.01.2011 03:26, schrieb Alan Mintz: I can't find a tag for the base of operations of a towing service - i.e. you call them to tow your broken car or truck to a repair shop. The basic definition would be a service that tows cars and other light

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-09 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/9 Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com: I'm starting to be convinced that there is a cultural disconnect with the word craft. To me (and I suspect most English speakers) there has to almost be an arts aspect  for something to be a craft. Whereas I'm starting to get the impression the German

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 January 2011 20:54, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: As it doesn't actually matter which words for tags we use, as long as their use is generally agreed (see highway for instance), I could go on with craft in the way it is currently defined. It shouldn't matter, however

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-09 Thread ael
On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 09:00:16PM +1000, John Smith wrote: It shouldn't matter, however using craft=* is likely to really confuse native english speakers as others have pointed out craft is something really different to a trade and expectations of that will cause people to either complain or

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-08 Thread Stephen Hope
I'm starting to be convinced that there is a cultural disconnect with the word craft. To me (and I suspect most English speakers) there has to almost be an arts aspect for something to be a craft. Whereas I'm starting to get the impression the German use is closer to what I think of as trade or

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 January 2011 13:37, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm starting to be convinced that there is a cultural disconnect with the word craft. To me (and I suspect most English speakers) there has to almost be an arts aspect for something to be a craft. Whereas I'm starting to get the

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-08 Thread john
and supplies used for making craft objects. A plumber or electrician would be considered a tradesperson, not someone conducting a craft. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [Tagging] Towing service? From :mailto:slh...@gmail.com Date :Sat Jan 08 21:37:58 America/Chicago 2011 I'm starting

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-07 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 5:50 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: What about shop=service Errg, no. All shops provide a kind of service... Don't forget the key office if it is not really a shop: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:office Pieren

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-07 Thread John Smith
On 7 January 2011 19:25, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 5:50 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: What about shop=service Errg, no. All shops provide a kind of service... Don't forget the key office if it is not really a shop:

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-07 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 07.01.2011 03:26, schrieb Alan Mintz: I can't find a tag for the base of operations of a towing service - i.e. you call them to tow your broken car or truck to a repair shop. The basic definition would be a service that tows cars and other light vehicles. Truck and other heavy vehicle towing

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-07 Thread John Smith
On 7 January 2011 20:26, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 January 2011 20:19, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: For me, a shop would be to get in, buy something (or at least get some service done) and go out. That's not the case here. A towing service will get to

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-07 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/7 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 7 January 2011 20:19, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: For me, a shop would be to get in, buy something (or at least get some service done) and go out. That's not the case here. A towing service will get to your place to do

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 January 2011 02:52, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I guess this misunderstanding derives from German ;-) In German there is a word Laden (m.) which is usually translated as shop, but the actual meaning is not as broad as shop in English. Actually it only describes

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-07 Thread john
I agree that shop=workshop, workshop=whatever is a good solution to this issue. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [Tagging] Towing service? From :mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Date :Fri Jan 07 11:29:53 America/Chicago 2011 On 8 January 2011 02:52, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-07 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/7 j...@jfeldredge.com: I agree that shop=workshop, workshop=whatever is a good solution to this issue. +1, it could be combined with craft to map the kind of workshop. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-07 Thread Surly_ru
I agree that shop=workshop, workshop=whatever is a good solution to this issue. +1, it could be combined with craft to map the kind of workshop. I think, craft=* (may be with man_made=works) is sufficient. So shop=workshop is redundant, and we need no such tag combination.

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 January 2011 08:33, Surly_ru p...@isnet.ru wrote: I agree that shop=workshop, workshop=whatever is a good solution to this issue. +1, it could be combined with craft to map the kind of workshop. I think, craft=* (may be with man_made=works) is sufficient. So shop=workshop is

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-07 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/7 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: A tow truck driver doesn't need much more than a special license, I don't think this is a craft at all. he probably doesn't need a workshop either. I guess he will have an office and a garage for his car, that cars he tows will typically be put to

[Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-06 Thread Alan Mintz
I can't find a tag for the base of operations of a towing service - i.e. you call them to tow your broken car or truck to a repair shop. The basic definition would be a service that tows cars and other light vehicles. Truck and other heavy vehicle towing would be a separate option. I propose:

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 January 2011 12:26, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: I can't find a tag for the base of operations of a towing service - i.e. you call them to tow your broken car or truck to a repair shop. The basic definition would be a service that tows cars and other light vehicles.