Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

Moreover, it is impossible in current API. 20-08-2018 10:45 tarihinde Mateusz Konieczny yazdı: > 18. Sierpień 2018 20:44 od djakk.dj...@gmail.com > : > > For such a subjective thing, it should be mapped by each > openstreetmap member : djakk maps this area as

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yeah, if it did get mapped it should probably at least be something specific otherwise the user has no idea what to watch out for, and it may unreasonably deter people from the area, i think it might be the same reason reviews aren't recorded?outside of that i don't think osm performs live actio

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18. Sierpień 2018 20:44 od djakk.dj...@gmail.com : > For such a subjective thing, it should be mapped by each openstreetmap member > : djakk maps this area as dangerous, baloo as not dangerous, etc  and the > renderer makes an average. This is a horrible idea

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For such a subjective thing, it should be mapped by each openstreetmap member : djakk maps this area as dangerous, baloo as not dangerous, etc and the renderer makes an average. djakk Le sam. 18 août 2018 à 06:26, Paul Johnson a écrit : > > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 16:17 Adam Franco wrote:

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On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 16:17 Adam Franco wrote: > > Another "risk" case would be an area where a civil war or conflict has > divided who controls what land. Either side of the line of control may be > incredibly risky for people affiliated with the other side but not to the > supporters of those i

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What areas are "dangerous" is very much a matter of race and class in the USA and likely in many other parts of the world. For example, there are wealthy mostly-white neighborhoods in many American suburbs where a person-of-color just walking or driving through is cause for residents to (injustly)

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well like i said, i meant more for specific things that aren't just generalisations where it may actively  prevent you from doing something or where it is a regular occurrence. i don't personally see the race/class related aspect, but as previously said i respect that others feel it is there an

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Then you're just splitting class and race hairs. On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 11:20 seirra wrote: > there can be notable areas though, outside of what may usually be expected > > On 08/17/18 16:03, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 16:35 seirra wrote: > >> hmmm i do see the point there

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there can be notable areas though, outside of what may usually be expected On 08/17/18 16:03, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 16:35 seirra > wrote: hmmm i do see the point there about racial/class bias... i was thinking more about areas that

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 16:35 seirra wrote: > hmmm i do see the point there about racial/class bias... i was thinking > more about areas that were known crime spots/had associated illegal > activities people may want to avoid(to the point there are regular police > patrols at night)? also places wh

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in that particular example, i'm referring to where just having your phone visible is enough to lead to theft? (i don't know if it was exclusively phones, it was a warning from a local) money and cars are probably other examples of what could be mapped though. On 08/17/18 00:22, Martin Koppenh

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I was thinking more if a specific crime happens often enough to be attributed to a street/building. by overlaid I'm guessing you mean as in third party like mentioned earlier? On 08/17/18 00:36, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On 08/16/2018 02:32 PM, seirra wrote: Hello, i was wondering whether there

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i understand that, i was giving a less 'political' example, because if the OP feels they shouldn't be mapped, then discussion needs to be sensitive too. i meant more not mentioning them specifically here... for the same reason in the sentence before. On 08/17/18 00:31, Warin wrote: On 1

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On 08/16/2018 02:32 PM, seirra wrote: > Hello, i was wondering whether there was a way to tag areas that may be > risky/dangerous to walk in? i can think of a few streets that could use > the tag, was there anything of the sort that has been agreed on? Past discussions have indicated this is not s

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On 17/08/18 08:25, seirra wrote: i did originally mean more for example if an area is known for a specific crime... listing it there? for example where a friend of mine lives they say if someone sees your phone it gets stolen? so safety:phone=no could be a good example? i can think of other exa

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sent from a phone > On 17. Aug 2018, at 00:25, seirra wrote: > > lives they say if someone sees your phone it gets stolen? so safety:phone=no > could be a good example? like you have to take special care of your phone, but don’t worry for your money or your car, they’re only interested in

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i did originally mean more for example if an area is known for a specific crime... listing it there? for example where a friend of mine lives they say if someone sees your phone it gets stolen? so safety:phone=no could be a good example? i can think of other examples such as specific streets pa

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sent from a phone > On 17. Aug 2018, at 00:09, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > What, like tax avoidance and insider dealing? I believe he’s more after corruption and abuse of institutional power. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetm

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sent from a phone > On 17. Aug 2018, at 00:03, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Even the mapping of areas of land mines has been left to third parties. I don’t know about individual land mines, but there is the tag military=danger_area which can be used for those places where mines a

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On 16 August 2018 at 22:34, seirra wrote: > hmmm i do see the point there about racial/class bias... i was thinking more > about areas that were known crime spots/had associated illegal activities > people may want to avoid What, like tax avoidance and insider dealing? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsont

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There has never been agreement here on 'dangerous' areas. Even after people have lost there lives using GPS to go in to 'dangerous areas'. Some 'dangerous areas' require the  police to go heavily armed and in large numbers to ensure their own survival. Even the mapping of areas of land mines ha

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hmmm i do see the point there about racial/class bias... i was thinking more about areas that were known crime spots/had associated illegal activities people may want to avoid(to the point there are regular police patrols at night)? also places where getting a phone out could lead to it being s

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sent from a phone > On 16. Aug 2018, at 22:52, Jmapb wrote: > > On the other hand, an overlay with data about various risk factors -- crime, > weather, accidents, air quality, cancer clusters, whatever -- would be a fine > feature for a 3rd party map app to offer. But these things don't belo

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On the other hand, an overlay with data about various risk factors -- crime, weather, accidents, air quality, cancer clusters, whatever -- would be a fine feature for a 3rd party map app to offer. But these things don't belong in the OSM database. As far as "bad areas" and "class and racial bi

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Other than dog toilets, this is too subjective to be included in OSM at all, and tends to stink of class and racial biases. On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 14:35 seirra wrote: > Hello, i was wondering whether there was a way to tag areas that may be > risky/dangerous to walk in? i can think of a few stree

[Tagging] areas of risk

Hello, i was wondering whether there was a way to tag areas that may be risky/dangerous to walk in? i can think of a few streets that could use the tag, was there anything of the sort that has been agreed on? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstre