Re: [Tagging] highway=services on bicycle routes?

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 12:38 PM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > 9 paź 2020, 15:33 od ba...@ursamundi.org: > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 3:06 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > For me it sounds sort-of similar (the same definition, just swap "motor > vehicle" with

Re: [Tagging] highway=services on bicycle routes?

9 paź 2020, 15:33 od ba...@ursamundi.org: > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 3:06 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <> > tagging@openstreetmap.org> > wrote: > >> For me it sounds sort-of similar (the same definition, just swap "motor >> vehicle" with "bicycle", >> or use "vehicle" to cover both ) but wi

Re: [Tagging] highway=services on bicycle routes?

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 3:06 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > For me it sounds sort-of similar (the same definition, just swap "motor > vehicle" with "bicycle", > or use "vehicle" to cover both ) but with drastically different > functionality. > > Similarly lik

Re: [Tagging] highway=services on bicycle routes?

For me it sounds sort-of similar (the same definition, just swap "motor vehicle" with "bicycle", or use "vehicle" to cover both ) but with drastically different functionality. Similarly like "parking" and "bicycle parking" or "motorway" and "cycleway". I would use a new tag. Sep 28, 2020, 21:22

[Tagging] highway=services on bicycle routes?

Can I use highway=services for a service stop on bike routes? It typically comprises restrooms, some kind of food service, bicycle repair tools/service, often bicycle rental. They go by different names. In Italy we have a number of "Bicigrill", a term "borrowed" from a trade mark for motorway fast

Re: [Tagging] highway=services & "Road Stations" - subtag requested.

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 7:34 PM, John Willis wrote: > > On Jan 26, 2017, at 12:45 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Usually just a vending machine in a cage and some overused, > under-maintained toilets and lots of parking. > > > > yea, i’m more familiar with the view points (Interstate 5 near camp >

Re: [Tagging] highway=services & "Road Stations" - subtag requested.

On 26-Jan-17 12:34 PM, John Willis wrote: On Jan 26, 2017, at 12:45 AM, Paul Johnson > wrote: Usually just a vending machine in a cage and some overused, under-maintained toilets and lots of parking. yea, i’m more familiar with the view points (Interstate 5 near

Re: [Tagging] highway=services & "Road Stations" - subtag requested.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 12:58:39 + Andy Townsend wrote: > On 25/01/2017 12:28, tomoya muramoto wrote: > > I think "Michi-no-eki" is not a kind of highway=services, > > because usually it does not have a car specific service, like a gas > > station or a car maintainance. > > > > A typical Michi-n

Re: [Tagging] highway=services & "Road Stations" - subtag requested.

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 12:45 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Usually just a vending machine in a cage and some overused, under-maintained > toilets and lots of parking. yea, i’m more familiar with the view points (Interstate 5 near camp Pendleton) and that style of crap rest area near Castaic la

Re: [Tagging] highway=services & "Road Stations" - subtag requested.

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 7:34 AM, John Willis wrote: > I am not familiar enough with service/rest areas outside Japan then - most > people in California get a lonely gas station at the exit ramp, maybe with > a McDonald's - not a government designated spot to stop and buy local goods > with a clea

Re: [Tagging] highway=services & "Road Stations" - subtag requested.

I just think Michi-no-eki is not "highway=*" category, as Javbw said a road station is focused on the person, not the car. "tourism=*" is OK, and "amenity=*" is acceptable. But invention of a new tag is not a good idea. So I think "(landuse=)retail" is enough to describe it. Tomoya Muramoto __

Re: [Tagging] highway=services & "Road Stations" - subtag requested.

Javbw > On Jan 25, 2017, at 9:58 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: > >> On 25/01/2017 12:28, tomoya muramoto wrote: >> I think "Michi-no-eki" is not a kind of highway=services, >> because usually it does not have a car specific service, like a gas station >> or a car maintainance. >> >> A typical Mic

Re: [Tagging] highway=services & "Road Stations" - subtag requested.

On 25/01/2017 12:28, tomoya muramoto wrote: I think "Michi-no-eki" is not a kind of highway=services, because usually it does not have a car specific service, like a gas station or a car maintainance. A typical Michi-no-eki has * local food shop * cafe * tourist information * 24/7 parking and

Re: [Tagging] highway=services & "Road Stations" - subtag requested.

I think "Michi-no-eki" is not a kind of highway=services, because usually it does not have a car specific service, like a gas station or a car maintainance. A typical Michi-no-eki has * local food shop * cafe * tourist information * 24/7 parking and toilet So I usually put "landuse=retail" to Mic

Re: [Tagging] highway=services & "Road Stations" - subtag requested.

Javbw > On Jan 25, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > your going to distinguish 'road houses' then consider SA, PA, etc too? As far as I know, A Japanese SA, besides being named after the "Services" of a British motorway, is modelled after it as well, so the existing

Re: [Tagging] highway=services & "Road Stations" - subtag requested.

Along the major tollways and freeways in the U.S. there are full service areas that are for primarily for refueling but always offer other amenities like restaurants, telephones, and toilets. These were always called Service Areas by the New York State Thruway Authority and are referred to by that

Re: [Tagging] highway=services & "Road Stations" - subtag requested.

On 25-Jan-17 02:17 PM, John Willis wrote: Summary: highway=services easily fits modern tollway service areas, but a services=road_station subtag would be a nice addition for “road stations” found on non-motorway roads throughout Japan that predate motorways and are treated differently. this wo

[Tagging] highway=services & "Road Stations" - subtag requested.

Summary: highway=services easily fits modern tollway service areas, but a services=road_station subtag would be a nice addition for “road stations” found on non-motorway roads throughout Japan that predate motorways and are treated differently. this would allow differentiated rendering and sear

Re: [Tagging] highway=services/rest_area

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > What's the correct tag for something like this, on a surface road and > operated by a private company (chain)? > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/99634310 I don't think there's a single tag that covers a truck stop, though I wouldn

Re: [Tagging] highway=services/rest_area

On Apr 20, 2012 7:18 AM, "John F. Eldredge" wrote: > In the USA, you have the same distinction between service areas and rest areas. In addition, there will sometimes be "parking areas", meaning that there will be a parking lot but no restrooms or other amenities. Fortunately, "parking areas" a

Re: [Tagging] highway=services/rest_area

What's the correct tag for something like this, on a surface road and operated by a private company (chain)? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/99634310 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tag

Re: [Tagging] highway=services/rest_area

Am 20. April 2012 16:18 schrieb John F. Eldredge : > n addition, there will sometimes be "parking areas", meaning that there will > be a parking lot but no restrooms or other amenities.  Fortunately, "parking > areas" are rare. we also have these, I'd include them in rest_areas. Basically you c

Re: [Tagging] highway=services/rest_area

Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am 20. April 2012 14:21 schrieb Philip Barnes : > > I think Wikipedia is very wrong on that one, and we really should > not > > follow it. > > > +1, we might even think of correcting it in WP. > > > > To give the impression that you will get fuel, food or drink at

Re: [Tagging] highway=services/rest_area

Am 20. April 2012 14:21 schrieb Philip Barnes : > I think Wikipedia is very wrong on that one, and we really should not > follow it. +1, we might even think of correcting it in WP. > To give the impression that you will get fuel, food or drink at a rest > area is misleading. A rest area is a pl

Re: [Tagging] highway=services/rest_area

On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 06:43 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On 4/20/2012 5:50 AM, Georg Feddern wrote: > > Am 20.04.2012 10:46, schrieb Nathan Edgars II: > >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dservices says that it > >> (usually) has fuel and food, but it links to Wikipedia:rest are

Re: [Tagging] highway=services/rest_area

On 4/20/2012 5:50 AM, Georg Feddern wrote: Am 20.04.2012 10:46, schrieb Nathan Edgars II: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dservices says that it (usually) has fuel and food, but it links to Wikipedia:rest area. Should the Wikipedia link be removed (and added to http://wiki.ope

Re: [Tagging] highway=services/rest_area

Nathan Edgars II wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dservices says that it (usually) has fuel and food, but it links to Wikipedia:rest area. Should the Wikipedia link be removed (and added to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Drest_area)? Should the word 'usua

Re: [Tagging] highway=services/rest_area

Am 20.04.2012 10:46, schrieb Nathan Edgars II: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dservices says that it (usually) has fuel and food, but it links to Wikipedia:rest area. Should the Wikipedia link be removed (and added to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Drest_area)

[Tagging] highway=services/rest_area

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dservices says that it (usually) has fuel and food, but it links to Wikipedia:rest area. Should the Wikipedia link be removed (and added to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Drest_area)? Should the word 'usually' be removed? __

Re: [Tagging] Highway services operator

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 07:27:05 +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 18 July 2010 03:49, Paul Johnson > wrote: >> One that comes to mind is the potential tags for a Taco Bell owned by >> Pacific Bells, Inc., common in Oregon: >> >> name=Taco Bell >> amenity=fast_food >> cuisine=mexican >> operator=Pacific

Re: [Tagging] Highway services operator

On 18 July 2010 03:49, Paul Johnson wrote: > One that comes to mind is the potential tags for a Taco Bell owned by > Pacific Bells, Inc., common in Oregon: > > name=Taco Bell > amenity=fast_food > cuisine=mexican > operator=Pacific Bells, Incorporated > > Or for a corporate-owned Sonic, common in

Re: [Tagging] Highway services operator

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:47:04 +0200, Stefano Pallicca wrote: > On the wiki [0] I found the operator tag to describe the operator of a > certain service area. > Now what is this tag supposed to describe? The fuel station operator? > The restaurant/bar/fast food operator? Other? > > May other amenit

[Tagging] Highway services operator

On the wiki [0] I found the operator tag to describe the operator of a certain service area. Now what is this tag supposed to describe? The fuel station operator? The restaurant/bar/fast food operator? Other? May other amenities/services be inserted? E.g. - semicolon-separated services=* - atm=yes

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

On 31 May 2010 00:21, Richard Welty wrote: > way. but do we really need it? what's the use case? I'm sure there is at least one company somewhere, like AAA, would love to be able to make maps that highlight service areas and/or rest areas for tourists doing long distance trips, rather than just p

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

On 5/30/10 6:21 AM, John Smith wrote: > On 30 May 2010 20:09, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> site-relation >> > But if the intent was to get a shaded area on a map this won't work. > for a shaded area, a polygon with something like landuse=highway_services or amenity=highway_serv

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

On 30 May 2010 20:09, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > site-relation But if the intent was to get a shaded area on a map this won't work. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

2010/5/28 Liz : > would a relation make more sense > to group parking+toilets+bin+fuel+food > in whatever combination was available? site-relation cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinf

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

On 28 May 2010 22:19, Richard Welty wrote: > lots of ways to do this: > > toilets=yes > food=yes > vending=yes > fuel=yes > > although in a large service area with food and fuel, you'd probably > just map them in as POIs in the conventional way. same for parking, > we have a normal approach for th

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

On 5/28/10 7:54 AM, Liz wrote: > On Fri, 28 May 2010, John Smith wrote: > >> On 28 May 2010 21:43, Liz wrote: >> >>> This points out a serious problem with the highway=services tag >>> it is only one letter different from a very different tag. >>> John Smith will shoot me down, but this

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

On 28 May 2010 21:54, Liz wrote: > would a relation make more sense > to group parking+toilets+bin+fuel+food > in whatever combination was available? or maybe a landuse=* tag... ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreet

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

On Fri, 28 May 2010, John Smith wrote: > On 28 May 2010 21:43, Liz wrote: > > This points out a serious problem with the highway=services tag > > it is only one letter different from a very different tag. > > John Smith will shoot me down, but this could be an amenity tag > > amenity=highway_servi

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

On 28 May 2010 21:43, Liz wrote: > This points out a serious problem with the highway=services tag > it is only one letter different from a very different tag. > John Smith will shoot me down, but this could be an amenity tag > amenity=highway_services Or just extend the existing tag since it is

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

On Fri, 28 May 2010, Claudius Henrichs wrote: > Am 28.05.2010 03:05, John Smith: > > On 28 May 2010 09:58, Craig Wallace wrote: > >> Some of them are also mapped with a short way tagged as highway=service > >> (not highway=services !), to connect it to the main road. > > > > highway=service is al

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

Am 28.05.2010 03:05, John Smith: > On 28 May 2010 09:58, Craig Wallace wrote: > >> Some of them are also mapped with a short way tagged as highway=service >> (not highway=services !), to connect it to the main road. >> > highway=service is already used to indicate a type of road way, it'

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

On 28 May 2010 10:19, John F. Eldredge wrote: > In Tennessee, USA, where I live, the Interstates (motorways) both "parking > areas" (no services other than a place to park temporarily) and "rest areas" > (with parking, rest rooms, soft drink/candy machines, and frequently local > tourist-inform

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

On 28 May 2010 09:58, Craig Wallace wrote: > Some of them are also mapped with a short way tagged as highway=service > (not highway=services !), to connect it to the main road. highway=service is already used to indicate a type of road way, it'd be silly to use the same thing to mean different th

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

Original Message- From: Craig Wallace Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 00:58:12 To: Subject: Re: [Tagging] highway=services On 27/05/2010 22:09, Liz wrote: > rest area has been redirected to highway=services with a note to a Wikipedia > entry. > The wikipedia entry is huge and after much scr

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

On 27/05/2010 22:09, Liz wrote: > rest area has been redirected to highway=services with a note to a Wikipedia > entry. > The wikipedia entry is huge and after much scrolling down the page it becomes > quite obvious that "Rest Area" has many meanings on highways worldwide. > While highway=services

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

At 2010-05-27 14:09, Liz wrote: >"Rest Area" signed on highways near me merely means that there is room to >pull >off the road and park. Next available facility is a bin for garbage, >sometimes >a picnic table, but it certainly does not mean highway=services. and restrooms. This describes the ty

[Tagging] highway=services

rest area has been redirected to highway=services with a note to a Wikipedia entry. The wikipedia entry is huge and after much scrolling down the page it becomes quite obvious that "Rest Area" has many meanings on highways worldwide. While highway=services is well explained, redirecting other phr