Re: [Tagging] seafood vs fishmonger (was Re: Synonymous values in the shop key)

2014-07-31 Thread Alan Trick
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > Fishmonger is a word that represents exactly what that tag is. A look at > Wikipedia[1] shows that. Seafood is problematic because of the "sea" in the > word and because it can mean a restaurant with seafood. I don't understand > why we woul

Re: [Tagging] seafood vs fishmonger (was Re: Synonymous values in the shop key)

2014-07-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-07-31 15:57 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > this will level out a lot of fine distinctions and give a lot of power and > responsibility to the preset makers. > Yes, that's why I think there should be a centralized tag translation, tag icon, and tag semantic meaning database that all editor

Re: [Tagging] seafood vs fishmonger (was Re: Synonymous values in the shop key)

2014-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-07-31 15:46 GMT+02:00 Janko Mihelić : > Anyway, I think the future of OSM tagging is in editors like iD that > translate tags into native languages this will level out a lot of fine distinctions and give a lot of power and responsibility to the preset makers. The main problem I see is that

Re: [Tagging] seafood vs fishmonger (was Re: Synonymous values in the shop key)

2014-07-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-07-31 15:06 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > I like the fishmonger word better, but I understand seafood is an easier >> word for non-native english speakers. >> > > I am not sure it really is easier for non-natives. Are you a native? I am > not, but back in school we learned the word fish

Re: [Tagging] seafood vs fishmonger (was Re: Synonymous values in the shop key)

2014-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-07-31 13:07 GMT+02:00 Janko Mihelić : > I don't like that seafood includes fresh water fish, and that might make > some misunderstanding among mappers. > +1 Take this shop for instance (businesses like this are quite common in Germany and presumably in other countries as well, they are rai

Re: [Tagging] seafood vs fishmonger (was Re: Synonymous values in the shop key)

2014-07-31 Thread fly
Am 31.07.2014 13:07, schrieb Janko Mihelić: > I don't like that seafood includes fresh water fish, and that might make > some misunderstanding among mappers. I'd like a big bold "USE THIS TAG > FOR FRESHWATER FISH ALSO" over the wiki page. > > I like the fishmonger word better, but I understand se

Re: [Tagging] seafood vs fishmonger (was Re: Synonymous values in the shop key)

2014-07-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
I don't like that seafood includes fresh water fish, and that might make some misunderstanding among mappers. I'd like a big bold "USE THIS TAG FOR FRESHWATER FISH ALSO" over the wiki page. I like the fishmonger word better, but I understand seafood is an easier word for non-native english speaker

Re: [Tagging] seafood vs fishmonger (was Re: Synonymous values in the shop key)

2014-07-31 Thread Dan S
2014-07-31 11:02 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > >> Am 31/lug/2014 um 10:27 schrieb Holger Jeromin : >> >> The voting was performed "using the extended "North-American definition" >> - there including fresh water": >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/seafood_shop >> >> So i

Re: [Tagging] seafood vs fishmonger (was Re: Synonymous values in the shop key)

2014-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 31/lug/2014 um 10:27 schrieb Holger Jeromin : > > The voting was performed "using the extended "North-American definition" > - there including fresh water": > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/seafood_shop > > So i see no problem in tagging seafood for every dead fish.

Re: [Tagging] seafood vs fishmonger (was Re: Synonymous values in the shop key)

2014-07-31 Thread SomeoneElse
On 31/07/2014 09:27, Holger Jeromin wrote: The voting was performed "using the extended "North-American definition" - there including fresh water": http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/seafood_shop ... and exactly 8 people voted in favour. That's clearly a ringing endorsemen

[Tagging] seafood vs fishmonger (was Re: Synonymous values in the shop key)

2014-07-31 Thread Holger Jeromin
Mateusz Konieczny wrote on 10.07.2014 11:50: >> Although since the rules are for josm validation so will be checked by >> a human, I guess that's low-risk right? > I thought about JOSM validator rule with fix button, so it would > not be safe to assume that it will be carefully checked (the same ty