Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-27 Thread bredy
fly high wrote but they are called falls (natural=waterfalls ?). +1 falls is better -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/waterfall-tp5778845p5779185.html Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-27 Thread bredy
Can we modify the proposal natural=waterfall because the writer stop the work? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/waterfall-tp5778845p5779186.html Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-27 Thread fly
On 27.09.2013 16:20, bredy wrote: Can we modify the proposal natural=waterfall because the writer stop the work? If we get to a conclusion that natural=waterfalls is the whole area with maybe several falls + rapids it would be better to start a new one and describe the differences. Right now

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/9/26 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com In addition, there is the more practical issue that often what is called a waterfall is a series of cascades. +1, while I'd consider your first point bike shedding, this second point is indeed important for mapping waterfalls, hence the suggestion

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-26 Thread Philip Barnes
In UK english, a series of waterfalls are called falls. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 26/09/2013 8:42 Volker Schmidt wrote: No, my not was about basic physics, admittedly a bit pedantic: As most waterfalls have a horizontal movement component in addition to the component

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-26 Thread bredy
Niagara Falls are tagged as area with tag waterway=waterfall + natural=cliff. For me waterway=waterfall is better for node or segment of waterway. Or with key waterfall=yes And natural=waterfall is better for large river that use riverbank. Only for way or area. Render as cliff but blue. --

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-26 Thread fly
On 26.09.2013 14:24, bredy wrote: As I have been traveling to two of the biggest falls on globe, I am interested in this discussion. Niagara Falls are tagged as area with tag waterway=waterfall + natural=cliff. Well it is tagged as site. The American Fall is tagged as waterway=waterfall as

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-25 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote: why do you want to have a decision. We have 8615 waterway=waterfall 2395 natural=waterfall So they will coexist happily forever Any (good) reason to keep two tags for the same thing ? In the past, we had highway=gate

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-25 Thread Yves
Man-made waterfalls ? Pieren pier...@gmail.com a écrit : On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote: why do you want to have a decision. We have 8615 waterway=waterfall 2395 natural=waterfall So they will coexist happily forever Any (good) reason to keep two

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/9/25 Pieren pier...@gmail.com 8615 waterway=waterfall 2395 natural=waterfall So they will coexist happily forever Any (good) reason to keep two tags for the same thing ? IMHO no good reason for a duplicate. But it isn't completely clear which tag would be the better one. What are

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-25 Thread Volker Schmidt
2013/9/25 Pieren pier...@gmail.com 8615 waterway=waterfall 2395 natural=waterfall So they will coexist happily forever Any (good) reason to keep two tags for the same thing ? My argument is simply numbers: I presume that it will require manual work to convert either to the other,

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-25 Thread Philip Barnes
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascata_delle_Marmore Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 25/09/2013 11:04 Yves wrote: Man-made waterfalls ? Pieren pier...@gmail.com a écrit : On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote: why do you want to have a

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-25 Thread Volker Schmidt
The Cascate delle Marmore is a clear case of waterway=waterfall, if you want to be extra-precise, as it is man made. The waterway tag does not care who made the way. :-) On 25 September 2013 12:45, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascata_delle_Marmore

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 25/set/2013 um 13:12 schrieb Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com: The Cascate delle Marmore is a clear case of waterway=waterfall, if you want to be extra-precise, as it is man made. The waterway tag does not care who made the way. :-) IMHO it doesn't matter if a feature tagged as

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-25 Thread Volker Schmidt
You overlooked an important symbol in my communication: :-) I was not serious. We also have natural=water, which we use for all kind of things, many of which are far from being natural. On 25 September 2013 13:18, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: Am 25/set/2013 um 13:12

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/9/25 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com You overlooked an important symbol in my communication: :-) yes, sorry, I was not only replying to you, there were Yves and Phil that had similar comments about non-natural waterfalls. cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-25 Thread Janko Mihelić
Maybe waterway=waterfall could be a node on the way (or a a way, if waterfalls are long), and natural=waterfall could be an area showing where they are. A similar difference to waterway=river and waterway=riverbank. Janko 2013/9/25 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com 2013/9/25 Volker

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/9/25 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com Maybe waterway=waterfall could be a node on the way (or a a way, if waterfalls are long), and natural=waterfall could be an area showing where they are. maybe that's not a bad idea, waterway=waterfall could be a place where the water is falling down

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-25 Thread André Pirard
On 2013-09-24 20:07, bredy wrote : Why there'are two method for tagging waterfall? I see waterway=waterfall and natural=waterfall. The first had a page osm very poor and the second is proposed feature, but abbandoned. Can we take a solution? We have already discussed those inconsistencies

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-25 Thread Volker Schmidt
Hmmm. Many, if not all waterfalls are *not* vertical in the strict sense of the word. On 25 September 2013 14:47, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/9/25 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com Maybe waterway=waterfall could be a node on the way (or a a way, if waterfalls are

[Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-24 Thread bredy
Why there'are two method for tagging waterfall? I see waterway=waterfall and natural=waterfall. The first had a page osm very poor and the second is proposed feature, but abbandoned. Can we take a solution? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/waterfall-tp5778845

Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-24 Thread Volker Schmidt
why do you want to have a decision. We have 8615 waterway=waterfall 2395 natural=waterfall So they will coexist happily forever :-) On 24 September 2013 20:07, bredy bredy...@yahoo.it wrote: Why there'are two method for tagging waterfall? I see waterway=waterfall and natural