Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread William Park via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 07:31:08PM -0400, Clifford Ilkay via talk wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Michael Galea via talk > wrote: > > > On 04/11/18 22:27, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > >> > >> Do you have a good example of why he would bother firing up Linux? > >> > > > > I imagi

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread William Park via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:36:09AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:57:07AM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > > By now, you know 3rd contenders, VirtualBox. :-) But, since Hyper-V is > > part of Windows10, just use that. > > Have you ever actually used hype

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Clifford Ilkay via talk | The BIOS | must support VT-x, too. The "workstation" type of notebooks should support | it. Cheaper notebooks might have a CPU that supports VT-x but the BIOS | might not. Hyper-V will not work without VT-x enabled. I haven't seen a BIOS that stupid. I've seen

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Clifford Ilkay via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Michael Galea via talk wrote: > On 04/11/18 22:27, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: >> >> Do you have a good example of why he would bother firing up Linux? >> > > I imagine he will want to run the Linux instance in the background so he > can get access to a per

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Clifford Ilkay via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:57:07AM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > > By now, you know 3rd contenders, VirtualBox. :-) But, since Hyper-V is > > part of Windows10, just use that. > > Have you ever actually used hyper-v? W

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Michael Galea via talk
On 04/12/18 15:58, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | From: Michael Galea via talk | On 04/11/18 22:27, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | > Do you have a good example of why he would bother firing up Linux? | | I imagine he will want to run the Linux instance in the background so he can |

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread David Collier-Brown via talk
On 12/04/18 03:58 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | From: Michael Galea via talk | The course he is taken is in game design and it is mixed Windows/Linux, so | what he actually uses the Linux for will be mandated by the school. | On 04/11/18 22:27, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: Th

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Michael Galea via talk | On 04/11/18 22:27, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | > Do you have a good example of why he would bother firing up Linux? | | I imagine he will want to run the Linux instance in the background so he can | get access to a personal git server. I would *guess*

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 01:46:01PM -0400, Michael Galea via talk wrote: > I imagine he will want to run the Linux instance in the background so he can > get access to a personal git server. > > The course he is taken is in game design and it is mixed Windows/Linux, so > what he actually uses the L

Re: [GTALUG] off topic question from Re: VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:45:47AM -0400, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > If the linux on windows does not directly support a graphical interface then > there may be other solutions. > > Once upon a time there was an xserver that would run on windows but I don't > know if such a thing still exists.

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Michael Galea via talk
On 04/11/18 22:27, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | From: Michael Galea via talk The following is an idiosycratic reaction to your question. Not exactly an answer and not exactly reliable. | He can use both OS's but is probably more familiar with Win, and his courses | mandate a number of

Re: [GTALUG] off topic question from Re: VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 10:45 Alvin Starr via talk, wrote: > > Once upon a time there was an xserver that would run on windows but I > don't know if such a thing still exists. > The vowel-free VcXsrv is still in (occasional) development. Works decently with the Windows Linux subsystem. Another po

[GTALUG] USB 3.2 - Display Port symbol is a styalized P

2018-04-12 Thread Russell via talk
I found a logo for a Type-C USB 3.2 device having DisplayPort capability online. The USB 3.2 hardware is scheduled for distribution sometime in 2019 As Mailman drops image attachments from messages to this list, unless moderated I think, I can't show the actual logo. Here is my symbolic glyph d

[GTALUG] off topic question from Re: VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 04/12/2018 10:30 AM, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: For a lot of stuff the linux on windows feature in Windows 10 covers a lot of use cases too. Not X applications though. If the linux on windows does not directly support a graphical interface then there may be other solutions. Once

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 08:35:20AM -0400, David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > I too recommend Virtual Box, and the large memory you mentioned (32GB) > > You may have fun finding large memories: all too many devices have > soldered-in small memory chips, to "encourage" you to buy a whole new > ma

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:57:07AM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > By now, you know 3rd contenders, VirtualBox. :-) But, since Hyper-V is > part of Windows10, just use that. Have you ever actually used hyper-v? What an awful interface and the requirement it puts on the guest is rather anno

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:27:17PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > The following is an idiosycratic reaction to your question. Not > exactly an answer and not exactly reliable. > > I'm pretty lazy. If I were your son, I'd use just one OS until there > was a very good reason to run th

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 08:05:19PM -0400, Michael Galea via talk wrote: > Hi All, > > My son is off to university for CS this fall, and will need a laptop. I'm > looking at purchasing one for him, so he can run Windows and Linux. I'm > figuring on going the VM route. > > He can use both OS's but

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 09:22 James Knott via talk, wrote: > > > Windows 10 has something called the Linux subsystem for Windows. > > However, unless I'm missing something, it's command line only. > You can do graphical things, but they require an X server running under Windows. So the hassle fact

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDDPartitioning;

2018-04-12 Thread Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk
Many Thanks To Lennart, Bob, Giles and D. Hugh, All very helpful. Lots to think about. * * * * * * As a result of earlier advice from GTALUG members, I have already prepared two (2) USB memory stcks with bootable images, for verifying that the fresh PC build can indeed (at least): 1. boot Syst

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread James Knott via talk
On 04/12/2018 12:11 AM, Clifford Ilkay via talk wrote: > Windows 10 has something called the Linux subsystem for Windows. However, unless I'm missing something, it's command line only. --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread David Collier-Brown via talk
On 11/04/18 08:31 PM, Kevin Cozens via talk wrote: On 2018-04-11 08:05 PM, Michael Galea via talk wrote: A bit of research indicates that the two most popular free VM contenders are VMware and Microsoft's Hyper-V.  Can anyone recommend one over the other?  Are there better choices? A third ch