Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

The actual ruling document should be quite readable by most participants here; I recommend a look. It actually reads more like tech speak then legelase, and appears to do a thorough job of laying the foundation for the decision. It inde

[GTALUG] RMS on britannica.com

I stumbled across this. I think it's concise and well written. Cuts through the fud pretty well. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Richard-Stallman https://www.britannica.com/technology/C-computer-programming-language -- Russell --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from

[GTALUG] Cert Advisory FortiOS APT

The advisory says even if your org doesn't use the os you should apply mitigations. https://siliconangle.com/2021/04/04/hackers-actively-targeting-fortios-vulnerabilities-warn-fbi-cisa/ -- Russell --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.or

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 5:44 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > | To: D. Hugh Redelmeier , GTALUG Talk > > | From: Russell Reiter via talk > > | On Tuesday, 6 April 2021, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk > | wrote: > > | Quite so. In Oracles case I believe the issues of patent were tossed > rig

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

| From: David Collier-Brown via talk | | On 2021-04-06 4:27 p.m., James Knott via talk wrote: | | > I could be wrong, but I seem to recall that Sun made Java available and | > encouraged it's use.  Then when Oracle bought Sun, they tried to rein it | > back in.  They did the same with OpenOffice

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

| To: D. Hugh Redelmeier , GTALUG Talk | From: Russell Reiter via talk | On Tuesday, 6 April 2021, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk | wrote: | Quite so. In Oracles case I believe the issues of patent were tossed right | away leaving only the issue of copyright I said so in the first message on th

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

On 2021-04-06 4:27 p.m., James Knott via talk wrote: I could be wrong, but I seem to recall that Sun made Java available and encouraged it's use.  Then when Oracle bought Sun, they tried to rein it back in.  They did the same with OpenOffice.  So, this boils down to Oracle retroactively and un

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 4:27 PM James Knott via talk wrote: > On 2021-04-06 4:15 p.m., Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 02:30:14PM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > >> I prefer Oracle to win. Then, Google would be forced to dump Java and > find > >> replacement. >

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 4:16 PM Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 02:30:14PM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > > I prefer Oracle to win. Then, Google would be forced to dump Java and > find > > replacement. > > The result on the entire industry would not be worth it.

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 2:47 PM Nicholas Krause via talk wrote: > > > On 4/6/21 2:17 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > > | From: Russell Reiter via talk > > | > > | I read that article with interest after I had used a > pharmacological/health > > | sciences metaphore about copyright in ano

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

On 2021-04-06 4:15 p.m., Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 02:30:14PM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: I prefer Oracle to win.  Then, Google would be forced to dump Java and find replacement. The result on the entire industry would not be worth it. If you don't want t

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 02:30:14PM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > I prefer Oracle to win.  Then, Google would be forced to dump Java and find > replacement. The result on the entire industry would not be worth it. If you don't want them to use java, you don't have to use android. Apple se

[GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

On Tuesday, 6 April 2021, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > | From: Russell Reiter via talk > | > | I read that article with interest after I had used a > pharmacological/health > | sciences metaphore about copyright in another thread. > > Most drugs are "protected" by patent legislation. Ve

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

On 4/6/21 2:17 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | From: Russell Reiter via talk | | I read that article with interest after I had used a pharmacological/health | sciences metaphore about copyright in another thread. Most drugs are "protected" by patent legislation. Very different from

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

I prefer Oracle to win.  Then, Google would be forced to dump Java and find replacement. On 4/6/21 1:06 PM, Russell Reiter via talk wrote: On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 12:31 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk, mailto:talk@gtalug.org>> wrote: Oracle sued Google, claiming Android infringed Oracle's pat

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

| From: Russell Reiter via talk | | I read that article with interest after I had used a pharmacological/health | sciences metaphore about copyright in another thread. Most drugs are "protected" by patent legislation. Very different from copyright. Perhaps surprisingly, trademark law is very

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 12:31 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk, wrote: > Oracle sued Google, claiming Android infringed Oracle's patents on Java. > Somehow. That failed. > > So they sued for copyright infringement based on the copying of the API > declarations. > > The computer community had been ver

[GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

Oracle sued Google, claiming Android infringed Oracle's patents on Java. Somehow. That failed. So they sued for copyright infringement based on the copying of the API declarations. The computer community had been very scared that APIs could be copyrighted, something nobody had expected. The