Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

Sorry for the late entry, been a busy couple of days... Aruna, I'm glad that you found the info on the firmware upgrades enabling the Pi4 to run cooler. They indicate that fanless passive cooling is acceptable for most uses. The FLIRC is great because most of the case is one giant aluminum heat

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 11:56 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Just adding my two cents after reading this thread. > > Cooling (just an opinion, not based on diverse experience): > > - Pi 4 does not need cooling but it apparently makes a difference in > performance under load. > I found

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

On 2020-08-09 12:02 p.m., D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: Switching to a 64-bit OS would let Gimp use most of your 8G. As for crashing: do you know what kind of crash is happening? Is it worth reporting? I suspect it is running out of memory. You can check the system log messages after th

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

From: D. Hugh Redelmeier" > | From: mwilson--- via talk > > | [ GIMP crashes under Raspberry Pi OS ] > > Last I checked, ordinary Raspbian was 32-bit only. If Gimp's memory > use is within a single processs, it is limited to about 2 or 3G (I > don't remember which) of your 8G. > > Switching to a

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

| From: mwilson--- via talk | I started with a 4GByte kit from ABRA in Montreal. It did adequately | replacing my old 1-core I386 desktop, mostly running Firefox and Gnu Image | Manipulation Program. GIMP seemed to encounter strange crashes with many | images open, so I lately upgraded to an 8G

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

Just adding my two cents after reading this thread. Cooling (just an opinion, not based on diverse experience): - Pi 4 does not need cooling but it apparently makes a difference in performance under load. - passive cooling is "good enough". I use a FLIRC case

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

Hi Stewart, On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 3:21 PM Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: > Hi Aruna - > > Just covering some points that didn't quite match my experience. 4GB > Raspberry Pi 4 good, 8 GB better, which it sounds like you've discovered. > Yes thanks to Scott and others :-) > > > How hot doe

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

> >> How hot does the unit become ? Does it require an add on fan shim ? Or > >> will work fine without one ? > >[ ... ] > the 8GB Pi4B which had been running idle > > overnight, and the air temperature in the case near the processor read > > 37degC. A few minutes work with GIMP brought that sl

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 11:21 AM Kevin Cozens via talk wrote: > On 2020-08-08 10:49 a.m., Scott Sullivan via talk wrote: > > When you also factor in Keyboard, Mouse, and USB boot drive, your left > with > > only one spare USB port, which could likely be taken up by a webcam. > > You can use a USB

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

> > So it has USB boot with the Pi 4 I just have to change the > > FIRMWARE_RELEASE_STATUS value from "critical" to "stable." > > I would err on the side of sticking with just a high quality SD card. > There far less chance of the accidental removal while the machine is in > operation. > Very tr

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

On 2020-08-08 3:47 p.m., Kevin Cozens via talk wrote: There is a new(ish) high quality Pi camera with adjustable focus. Yeah, I knew about that. It's got no focus at all, just being a sensor board and a lens mount. The best that folks are getting out of it right now is manual focus. There's

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

On 2020-08-08 3:21 p.m., Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: The Raspberry Pi camera is also fixed focus and doesn't do audio. It's not useful for video calls. There is a new(ish) high quality Pi camera with adjustable focus. See rpi.io/hqcam for details. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.c

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

Hi Aruna - Just covering some points that didn't quite match my experience. 4GB Raspberry Pi 4 good, 8 GB better, which it sounds like you've discovered. How hot does the unit become ? Does it require an add on fan shim ? Or will work fine without one ? You can definitely get by without one.

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

>> Hello, >> I stumbled across this recently: >> https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ >> I can use some guidance and advice from folks who have experience >> with Raspberry Pi's. What I read so far looks good but I have questions. > [ ... ] >> How hot does the unit become ?

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

On 8/8/20 11:21 AM, Kevin Cozens via talk wrote: On 2020-08-08 10:49 a.m., Scott Sullivan via talk wrote: When you also factor in Keyboard, Mouse, and USB boot drive, your left with only one spare USB port, which could likely be taken up by a webcam. You can use a USB type web cam with a Pi b

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

On 2020-08-08 10:49 a.m., Scott Sullivan via talk wrote: When you also factor in Keyboard, Mouse, and USB boot drive, your left with only one spare USB port, which could likely be taken up by a webcam. You can use a USB type web cam with a Pi but you can don't need to. There is a special onbo

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

On 8/8/20 9:27 AM, Aruna Hewapathirane wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 9:11 PM Scott Sullivan via talk > wrote: On 8/7/20 6:49 PM, Aruna Hewapathirane via talk wrote: [.SNIP.] > How easy or difficult would it be to boot off an external hard disk as > co

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

Hello Howard, On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 10:47 PM Howard Gibson via talk wrote: > On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 18:49:37 -0400 > Aruna Hewapathirane via talk wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I stumbled across this recently: > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ > > > > I can use some gui

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 8:52 AM wrote: > > Hello, > > I stumbled across this recently: > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ > > I can use some guidance and advice from folks who have experience > > with Raspberry Pi's. What I read so far looks good but I have questions.

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 10:39 PM wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I stumbled across this recently: > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ > > > > I can use some guidance and advice from folks who have experience > > with Raspberry Pi's. What I read so far looks good but I have q

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 9:11 PM Scott Sullivan via talk wrote: > On 8/7/20 6:49 PM, Aruna Hewapathirane via talk wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I stumbled across this recently: > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ > > > > I can use some guidance and advice from folks who hav

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

> Hello, > I stumbled across this recently: > https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ > I can use some guidance and advice from folks who have experience > with Raspberry Pi's. What I read so far looks good but I have questions. [ ... ] > How hot does the unit become ? Does it

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 18:49:37 -0400 Aruna Hewapathirane via talk wrote: > Hello, > > I stumbled across this recently: > https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ > > I can use some guidance and advice from folks who have experience > with Raspberry Pi's. What I read so far look

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

> Hello, > > I stumbled across this recently: > https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ > > I can use some guidance and advice from folks who have experience > with Raspberry Pi's. What I read so far looks good but I have questions. > > If 'you' were to use a Raspberry Pi as a

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

On 8/7/20 6:49 PM, Aruna Hewapathirane via talk wrote: Hello, I stumbled across this recently: https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ I can use some guidance and advice from folks who have experience with Raspberry Pi's. What I read so far looks good but I have questions.

[GTALUG] Raspberry Pi 4 Desktop Kit

Hello, I stumbled across this recently: https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ I can use some guidance and advice from folks who have experience with Raspberry Pi's. What I read so far looks good but I have questions. If 'you' were to use a Raspberry Pi as a desktop replace