Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-13 Thread Clifford Ilkay via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:42 AM, William Park via talk wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 01:25:54AM -0400, Clifford Ilkay wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:57 AM, William Park via talk > > > wrote: > > > I'm not too keen on recommending VM route. > > > >

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-13 Thread Clifford Ilkay via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 11:07 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk < talk@gtalug.org> wrote: > | From: Clifford Ilkay via talk > > | The BIOS > | must support VT-x, too. The "workstation" type of notebooks should > support > | it. Cheaper notebooks might have a CPU that supports VT-x

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-13 Thread Ivan Avery Frey via talk
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 20:05 Michael Galea via talk, wrote: > Hi All, > > My son is off to university for CS this fall, and will need a laptop. > I'm looking at purchasing one for him, so he can run Windows and Linux. > I'm figuring on going the VM route. > > He can use both OS's

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread William Park via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 07:31:08PM -0400, Clifford Ilkay via talk wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Michael Galea via talk > wrote: > > > On 04/11/18 22:27, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > >> > >> Do you have a good example of why he would bother firing up Linux? >

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread William Park via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:36:09AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:57:07AM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > > By now, you know 3rd contenders, VirtualBox. :-) But, since Hyper-V is > > part of Windows10, just use that. > > Have you ever actually used

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Clifford Ilkay via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Michael Galea via talk wrote: > On 04/11/18 22:27, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: >> >> Do you have a good example of why he would bother firing up Linux? >> > > I imagine he will want to run the Linux instance in the background so he > can

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Clifford Ilkay via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:57:07AM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > > By now, you know 3rd contenders, VirtualBox. :-) But, since Hyper-V is > > part of Windows10, just use that. > > Have you ever

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Michael Galea via talk
On 04/12/18 15:58, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | From: Michael Galea via talk | On 04/11/18 22:27, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | > Do you have a good example of why he would bother firing up Linux? | | I imagine he will want to run the Linux instance in the

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread David Collier-Brown via talk
On 12/04/18 03:58 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | From: Michael Galea via talk | The course he is taken is in game design and it is mixed Windows/Linux, so | what he actually uses the Linux for will be mandated by the school. | On 04/11/18 22:27, D. Hugh Redelmeier

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Michael Galea via talk | On 04/11/18 22:27, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | > Do you have a good example of why he would bother firing up Linux? | | I imagine he will want to run the Linux instance in the background so he can | get access to a personal git server.

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 01:46:01PM -0400, Michael Galea via talk wrote: > I imagine he will want to run the Linux instance in the background so he can > get access to a personal git server. > > The course he is taken is in game design and it is mixed Windows/Linux, so > what he actually uses the

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Michael Galea via talk
On 04/11/18 22:27, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | From: Michael Galea via talk The following is an idiosycratic reaction to your question. Not exactly an answer and not exactly reliable. | He can use both OS's but is probably more familiar with Win, and his courses |

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 08:35:20AM -0400, David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > I too recommend Virtual Box, and the large memory you mentioned (32GB) > > You may have fun finding large memories: all too many devices have > soldered-in small memory chips, to "encourage" you to buy a whole new >

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:57:07AM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > By now, you know 3rd contenders, VirtualBox. :-) But, since Hyper-V is > part of Windows10, just use that. Have you ever actually used hyper-v? What an awful interface and the requirement it puts on the guest is rather

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:27:17PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > The following is an idiosycratic reaction to your question. Not > exactly an answer and not exactly reliable. > > I'm pretty lazy. If I were your son, I'd use just one OS until there > was a very good reason to run

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 08:05:19PM -0400, Michael Galea via talk wrote: > Hi All, > > My son is off to university for CS this fall, and will need a laptop. I'm > looking at purchasing one for him, so he can run Windows and Linux. I'm > figuring on going the VM route. > > He can use both OS's but

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 09:22 James Knott via talk, wrote: > > > Windows 10 has something called the Linux subsystem for Windows. > > However, unless I'm missing something, it's command line only. > You can do graphical things, but they require an X server running under Windows.

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread James Knott via talk
On 04/12/2018 12:11 AM, Clifford Ilkay via talk wrote: > Windows 10 has something called the Linux subsystem for Windows. However, unless I'm missing something, it's command line only. --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread David Collier-Brown via talk
On 11/04/18 08:31 PM, Kevin Cozens via talk wrote: On 2018-04-11 08:05 PM, Michael Galea via talk wrote: A bit of research indicates that the two most popular free VM contenders are VMware and Microsoft's Hyper-V.  Can anyone recommend one over the other?  Are there better choices? A third

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-11 Thread William Park via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 01:25:54AM -0400, Clifford Ilkay wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:57 AM, William Park via talk > wrote: > > I'm not too keen on recommending VM route. > > Why not? Unless you have really underpowered machines, it's a perfectly > viable way to run

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-11 Thread Clifford Ilkay via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:57 AM, William Park via talk wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 08:05:19PM -0400, Michael Galea via talk wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > My son is off to university for CS this fall, and will need a laptop. I'm > > looking at purchasing one for him, so he can

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-11 Thread William Park via talk
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 08:05:19PM -0400, Michael Galea via talk wrote: > Hi All, > > My son is off to university for CS this fall, and will need a laptop. I'm > looking at purchasing one for him, so he can run Windows and Linux. I'm > figuring on going the VM route. I'm not too keen on

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-11 Thread William Park via talk
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:27:17PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > It's also best to have the same OS as your associates: sharing > documents and expertise. Libreoffice is almost good enough as an MS > Office clone. No! If sharing is a goal, then MS-Office. -- William Park

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-11 Thread Charles Profitt via talk
On Wed, 2018-04-11 at 20:05 -0400, Michael Galea via talk wrote: > Hi All, > > My son is off to university for CS this fall, and will need a > laptop. > I'm looking at purchasing one for him, so he can run Windows and > Linux. > I'm figuring on going the VM route. My kids run Linux at home

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-11 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Michael Galea via talk The following is an idiosycratic reaction to your question. Not exactly an answer and not exactly reliable. | He can use both OS's but is probably more familiar with Win, and his courses | mandate a number of windows only tools. I'm heading in

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-11 Thread Kevin Cozens via talk
On 2018-04-11 08:05 PM, Michael Galea via talk wrote: A bit of research indicates that the two most popular free VM contenders are VMware and Microsoft's Hyper-V.  Can anyone recommend one over the other? Are there better choices? A third choice is VirtualBox. I just checked the website for

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-11 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 04/11/2018 08:05 PM, Michael Galea via talk wrote: Hi All, My son is off to university for CS this fall, and will need a laptop. I'm looking at purchasing one for him, so he can run Windows and Linux. I'm figuring on going the VM route. He can use both OS's but is probably more familiar

[GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-11 Thread Michael Galea via talk
Hi All, My son is off to university for CS this fall, and will need a laptop. I'm looking at purchasing one for him, so he can run Windows and Linux. I'm figuring on going the VM route. He can use both OS's but is probably more familiar with Win, and his courses mandate a number of windows