Re: [OSM-talk] Wide tracks with cycle access

2008-04-30 Thread Karl Eichwalder
80n schrieb: > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Nick Whitelegg > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> highway=track; bicycle=yes|permissive; [surface=gravel] >> > > > bicycle=yes and surface=gravel are an incompatible combination in my book > ;) IMO, bicycle=yes means cycling is allowed, or at least, it is no

Re: [OSM-talk] Wide tracks with cycle access

2008-04-30 Thread Mike Collinson
At 09:35 PM 30/04/2008, Nick Whitelegg wrote: >Hello everyone, > >Slight dilemma with what to do about wide, off road (countryside) tracks >with official cycle access, in the light of the countryside mapping >suggestions I made last week on the wiki. How do cyclists in general tag >these? > >hig

[OSM-talk] new potlatch issues

2008-04-30 Thread Robin Paulson
richard, i see you've rolled out some changes as part of potlatch 0.8c, including huge thick ways...could you roll them back please? they're very obtrusive and obscure a lot of the yahoo imagery underneath. i'm finding it very difficult to accurately place ways on the centre of roads, amongst other

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Format Custom OSM Prints

2008-04-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > > My cost for printing a Super A0 sheet is about EUR 1, and shipping to > > anywhere in Europe [that includes the UK for those in doubt] is EUR > > 4.50 (can take up to two sheets A0 or more if smaller; overseas is EUR > > 8.00). I'll sponsor the money if you promise to use the posters for >

Re: [OSM-talk] railways/roads/canals/rivers/etc. inside buildings

2008-04-30 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Miércoles, 30 de Abril de 2008, Robin Paulson escribió: > a situation has come up, where i've been mapping some railway lines > that go through a maintenance shed. the problem is, the railway is > drawn on top of the shed, rather than shown dotted too imply it's > underneath/inside. is there a t

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Format Custom OSM Prints

2008-04-30 Thread Gervase Markham
Frederik Ramm wrote: > My cost for printing a Super A0 sheet is about EUR 1, and shipping to > anywhere in Europe [that includes the UK for those in doubt] is EUR > 4.50 (can take up to two sheets A0 or more if smaller; overseas is EUR > 8.00). I'll sponsor the money if you promise to use the poste

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik viewer for OSM data - UI suggestions?

2008-04-30 Thread Gervase Markham
Nick Whitelegg wrote: > One of the OSM projects I'm hoping to work on is a Mapnik GUI renderer for > ..osm files (and live API data, cached locally, and PostGIS databases), > based on the Mapnik viewer. However what would be good is to get some user > interface suggestions from people. The aim i

Re: [OSM-talk] Wide tracks with cycle access

2008-04-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nick Whitelegg wrote: > Slight dilemma with what to do about wide, off road (countryside) > tracks > with official cycle access, in the light of the countryside mapping > suggestions I made last week on the wiki. How do cyclists in general > tag > these? > > highway=track; bicycle=yes|permissive

Re: [OSM-talk] Static maps using the new export function

2008-04-30 Thread Gervase Markham
Tom Chance wrote: > I can't see an obvious way to do this, maybe I just need to dig around in > the code behind the export tab, but is it possible to already do something > similar to the Google static maps feature, i.e. allow people to just > specify a URL in an img tag and have the static image w

[OSM-talk] railways/roads/canals/rivers/etc. inside buildings

2008-04-30 Thread Skywave
Due to the way osm.xml is built at the moment, mapnik will always render buildings underneath other features. Osmarender uses the layer= tag to determine what's on top. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a situation has come up, where i've been mapping so

[OSM-talk] railways/roads/canals/rivers/etc. inside buildings

2008-04-30 Thread Robin Paulson
a situation has come up, where i've been mapping some railway lines that go through a maintenance shed. the problem is, the railway is drawn on top of the shed, rather than shown dotted too imply it's underneath/inside. is there a tag i could use, to show that it's inside? something like the tunnel

[OSM-talk] help with coastline

2008-04-30 Thread Skywave
If you use the coastline error checker, you would see that parts of the way are reversed. With coastlines the Land should always be to the Left. http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html?lat=-1.09287&lon=-46.13269&zoom=10&layers=B00T On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Ulf Mehlig <[EMAIL PROTECTE

[OSM-talk] help with coastline

2008-04-30 Thread Ulf Mehlig
Hello openstreetmap experts, I tried to add a few details to a segment of the coastline of northern Brazil, but as I see today on Mapnik this caused some disorder in the coastline rendering (it looked almost ok in the slippy map/Osmarender, though). I would appreciate if one of the more experienc

Re: [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-04-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, >While I have the PD-user template on my user page and would encourage >like-minded folks to do the same, I feel it is mostly a political >statement than of real practical benefit. +1 Some time in the far future I will create a "clean" mirror of OSM that contains only data neve

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Europe Statistics

2008-04-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > Can someone point me to some simple code/ideas on how to turn the xml osm > data into way length? I'll then be able to report some findings. I'll also > write up how I gathered the information needed so that other areas can be > compared. There's a script in SVN: /applications/utils/filter

Re: [OSM-talk] Wide tracks with cycle access

2008-04-30 Thread 80n
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Nick Whitelegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Slight dilemma with what to do about wide, off road (countryside) tracks > with official cycle access, in the light of the countryside mapping > suggestions I made last week on the wiki. How do cyclist

[OSM-talk] Wide tracks with cycle access

2008-04-30 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Slight dilemma with what to do about wide, off road (countryside) tracks with official cycle access, in the light of the countryside mapping suggestions I made last week on the wiki. How do cyclists in general tag these? highway=track; bicycle=yes|permissive; [surface=gravel]

Re: [OSM-talk] UK metrics basis - How complete is your area?

2008-04-30 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
As a follow up. wiki page is at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Completeness_Metrics Cheers Andy >-Original Message- >From: Andy Robinson (blackadder) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 30 April 2008 4:41 PM >To: 'talk@openstreetmap.org' >Subject: UK metrics basis - How complete

[OSM-talk] UK metrics basis - How complete is your area?

2008-04-30 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Following on from Frederik's earlier snapshot statistics for Europe I thought I'd work out a hopefully more reliable measure basis for the UK. Hopefully it will help people evaluate their own areas to monitor progress. The evaluation was done for the area of Sutton Coldfield and adjacent wards run

[OSM-talk] GIS in the public sector

2008-04-30 Thread graham
Anyone with some money to burn going to this? I imagine just walking around with an osm t-shirt would probably generate quite a bit of interest... Graham +++GIS in the Public Sector: 14 May 2008, Central London - Two Weeks To Go - Countdown To EU's INSPIRE Directive - Speakers from LGA, IDeA,

Re: [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-04-30 Thread Mike Collinson
At 01:12 PM 30/04/2008, Rahkonen Jukka wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I concluded that I'd rather see my contributions in public domain and added >> the PD-user template to show that. I wonder what does it mean in practice. >> Is it now possible for me or anybody else to extract all features I have >> creat

Re: [OSM-talk] Meaning of

2008-04-30 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Some things I have read on the internet say that in some jurisdictions it may not be possible to place things in the public domain. There are two big problems I've read about. (You might want to move this to OSM-legal.) First is that someone can include public domain material in their own work an

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Europe Statistics

2008-04-30 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
I'm just calculating some statistics for my local urban area (Northeast Birmingham). The area I've selected I know is 100% complete in terms of the road network because all of it has been systematically mapped by yours truly. I know the boundaries of the area and am about to pull the highway ways f

[OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-04-30 Thread Rahkonen Jukka
Sorry about reposting but the original title Meaning of "Users whose contributions are in the public domain" was split somehow. I think just "Meaning of" is far too large a problem. -Jukka- > Hi, > > I concluded that I'd rather see my contributions in public domain and added > the PD-user tem

[OSM-talk] Meaning of

2008-04-30 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Hi, I concluded that I'd rather see my contributions in public domain and added the PD-user template to show that. I wonder what does it mean in practice. Is it now possible for me or anybody else to extract all features I have created and which have never been touched by other users? How about

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Europe Statistics

2008-04-30 Thread Skywave
I meant loading it in a pgsql database. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Skywave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it is better to load the data and then just query the total length > of the highways. Like this http://slyserv.dyndns.org/osm/resultat.html > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:12 AM

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Europe Statistics

2008-04-30 Thread William Waites
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:11:08AM +0200, Ivvvn SSSnchez Ortega wrote: > > On Wed, April 30, 2008 10:32, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: > > One funny alternative would be to compute not the size of the data > > but the size of the tiles in a compressed format. An empty tile can be > > compresse

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Europe Statistics

2008-04-30 Thread Skywave
I think it is better to load the data and then just query the total length of the highways. Like this http://slyserv.dyndns.org/osm/resultat.html On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Steve Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > > Of course this is very simpli

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Europe Statistics

2008-04-30 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Frederik Ramm remote.org> writes: > > Hi, > >a very crude statistic: > > Country osm.bz2 sizepopulationratio (bytes per capita) > > Finland 20M 5M4.0 > I suspect that

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Europe Statistics

2008-04-30 Thread Steve Hill
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Of course this is very simplistic and I believe you will come up with > much better measures of progress. Let's hear your numbers ;-) Interesting numbers. I suspect "objects per capita" would be more meaningful than compressed bytes though (but more e

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Europe Statistics

2008-04-30 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
On Wed, April 30, 2008 10:32, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: > One funny alternative would be to compute not the size of the data > but the size of the tiles in a compressed format. An empty tile can be > compressed to a few bytes, but a dense tile with a lot of ways and place- > names cannot b

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Europe Statistics

2008-04-30 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
Hi, One funny alternative would be to compute not the size of the data (nodes and tags) but the size of the tiles in a compressed format (PNG or JPG or compressed BMP). An empty tile can be compressed to a few bytes, but a dense tile with a lot of ways and place-names cannot be compressed so m