Re: [OSM-talk] Using Osmarender to hilight Relation/Routes?

2008-05-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > Sort of like the previously feature image: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Image:Cyclingnodes.jpg > > I spent a while poking around the Wiki and trying to understand the > XSL source (not my forte), but am still none the wiser. Anyone got > any hints/clues for me? I was in a simi

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Osmarender to hilight Relation/Routes?

2008-05-16 Thread Franc Carter
Hi Frederick, did you manage to put something together that renders turn restrictions ? I'm interested in anything you have that does that. cheers On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > Sort of like the previously feature image: > > http://wiki.ope

[OSM-talk] OpenPlantMap

2008-05-16 Thread elvin ibbotson
Anyone involved with the National Trust? Apparently they are mapping every plant in their gardens all over Britain. Do they know they just need OSM and a few new tags (plant=nettle for example). http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7395915.stm elvin ibbotson _

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenPlantMap

2008-05-16 Thread Shaun McDonald
This data is a little bit on the specialised side for osm. I would say that it would be better to setup a separate database and site specifically for this purpose based on the current osm software and tools. Then if they want to map roads they deal with that from the osm data side. When i

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenPlantMap

2008-05-16 Thread Chris Hill
elvin ibbotson wrote: > Anyone involved with the National Trust? Apparently they are mapping > every plant in their gardens all over Britain. Do they know they just > need OSM and a few new tags (plant=nettle for example). > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7395915.stm >

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Osmarender to hilight Relation/Routes?

2008-05-16 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Thomas Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The gravitystorm use a custom version of osm2pgsql and their own > mapnik rendering rules afaik. The xsl of osmarender has nothing to do > with their map, but osmarender did have a cycle stylesheet, but it > wasn't well used

[OSM-talk] OpenPlantMap

2008-05-16 Thread Peter Miller
> Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:22:40 +0100 > From: Shaun McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenPlantMap > To: elvin ibbotson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > This d

[OSM-talk] Notability (was openstreetmap)

2008-05-16 Thread Nic Roets
> I agree. I think we need to adopt a Wikipedia concept of 'notability'. For > example... A wood is notable, a large established solitary tree in a park > might be notable, but a nettle is not. Is a rare plant notable? I would If someone made the effort to physically survey it and properly tag it,

Re: [OSM-talk] Notability (was openstreetmap)

2008-05-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nic Roets wrote: > If someone made the effort to physically survey it and properly tag > it, I think it's OK. Maintainability is probably a bigger issue than notability. Roads, railways and canals don't move much, rivers hardly at all - we can cope with maintaining that sort of database. But

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenPlantMap

2008-05-16 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
There's something suspicious about that bbc video. Those people look like bad actors. I have the impression that they are simply trying to call some attention, just to remind us (or remind you) that the "National Trust" exists. In my case, it has worked. I had never heard about such institution

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenPlantMap

2008-05-16 Thread Stephan Schildberg
Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio schrieb: > There's something suspicious about that bbc video. Those people look > like bad actors. I have the impression that they are simply trying to > call some attention, just to remind us (or remind you) that the > "National Trust" exists. mhmm, you know Britain a

[OSM-talk] Section Township Range? Boundary data

2008-05-16 Thread Lance Dyas
In the US Farmers and Ranchers often use the section township and range for determining where properties are. Is there an convenient way to import this kind data from say shapefiles into OSM, Is it reasonable to do so? I am a newbie with OSM, be kind with regards to my ignorance ;-) ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Unknown road classifications

2008-05-16 Thread Alex Mauer
Steve Hill wrote: > On Mon, 12 May 2008, Alex Mauer wrote: > >> IMO if it's sufficiently unknown that it will have to be revisited >> anyway for more accurate classification, marking it as a road rather >> than a complete unknown isn't really going to be helpful to anyone. > > Sure it is - I know

Re: [OSM-talk] Section Township Range? Boundary data

2008-05-16 Thread simon
At present I don't believe that any grid-line structure is in place. Alberta is in a similar situation, the local standard map grid (ATS) is defined algorythmically. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_Township_System Many physical features, such as township/range roads follow these grid lin

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-16 Thread Alex Mauer
Karl Newman wrote: > Wow, that's not obvious to the casual (non-UK) observer. In the US, the > usage of "canal" is different. They're almost never navigable, and even > small drainage ditches are commonly called "canals". Almost no-one here > would call any kind of waterway a "drain". Definitely

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Vote: highway=path

2008-05-16 Thread Alex Mauer
Please read and vote on the proposal at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Path Special voting instructions for this one: Vote with {{vote|yes}} or {{vote|no}}, and then indicate whether you would approve the deprection option, as listed in the Deprecation section of the

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-16 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 16 May 2008, at 16:50, Alex Mauer wrote: > Karl Newman wrote: >> Wow, that's not obvious to the casual (non-UK) observer. In the US, >> the >> usage of "canal" is different. They're almost never navigable, and >> even >> small drainage ditches are commonly called "canals". Almost no-one

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-16 Thread Alex Mauer
Shaun McDonald wrote: > I have the only remaining part of the Croydon canal near me. It is > only a few hundred metres long, and is now left to nature. A century > ago the other parts of the canal were filled in and changed to railway. Presumably that's only called a canal for historical reaso

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-16 Thread Karl Newman
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Alex Mauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Karl Newman wrote: > > Wow, that's not obvious to the casual (non-UK) observer. In the US, the > > usage of "canal" is different. They're almost never navigable, and even > > small drainage ditches are commonly called "canals

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Osmarender to hilight Relation/Routes?

2008-05-16 Thread simon
I had a little look at the 'orp' source, but I'm not that hot on perl either. I'll have to download and give it a 'spin' to see what/how it does. > I haven't got round to do it yet but putting in some > code/rules there for rendering relations should not be too difficult. Given the comments how o

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-16 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 16 May 2008, at 18:12, Alex Mauer wrote: > Shaun McDonald wrote: >> I have the only remaining part of the Croydon canal near me. It is >> only a few hundred metres long, and is now left to nature. A century >> ago the other parts of the canal were filled in and changed to >> railway. > > Pre

[OSM-talk] RFC: Proposed feature, generic road

2008-05-16 Thread Steve Hill
I'd like to draw attention to the highway=road proposed feature and request comments: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Generic_road Thanks. -- - Steve xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nexusuk.org/ Servatis a periculum, servatis

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-16 Thread OJ W
>>> I have the only remaining part of the Croydon canal near me. It is >>> only a few hundred metres long, and is now left to nature. A century >>> ago the other parts of the canal were filled in and changed to >>> railway. >> >> Presumably that's only called a canal for historical reasons then? >>

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-16 Thread Alex Mauer
Shaun McDonald wrote: >> Presumably that's only called a canal for historical reasons then? >> > > Yes. Is there anything wron with that? Nope. I was just that I was wondering if it had some reason beyond its physical characteristics for being tagged as a canal. On the other hand, it might be

[OSM-talk] Rights of way (was: Vote: highway=path)

2008-05-16 Thread OJ W
Are there any use-cases for keeping the legal designations of rights-of-way (aware that this is very UK-specific..) e.g. perhaps someone wants to use our maps to check that all the rights of way in their area are properly accessible. Or someone using an OSM map is challenged by a landowner and 't

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-16 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 16 May 2008, at 21:37, OJ W wrote: > > I'm still interested in this definition of aquaeduct though, since the > wikipedia definition of man-made water-carrying thingie differs from > OSM's definition of waterway on a bridge > My definition of a canal is some waterway on a bridge. Shaun

Re: [OSM-talk] Notability (was openstreetmap)

2008-05-16 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nic Roets wrote: > >> If someone made the effort to physically survey it and properly tag >> it, I think it's OK. > > Maintainability is probably a bigger issue than notability. Roads, > railways and canals don't move m

Re: [OSM-talk] Notability (was openstreetmap)

2008-05-16 Thread Nic Roets
> Specialist data can be tagged with a prefix, e.g. > "category:key=value". Then, editors, renderers and output plugins > could filter out unwanted data using an API call (like the filters in > osmxapi) so that they don't waste time downloading it. I see nothing > wrong with putting specialized dat

Re: [OSM-talk] Rights of way (was: Vote: highway=path)

2008-05-16 Thread Karl Eichwalder
OJ W schrieb: > we seem to have lost 'public footpath' information already by using > the same 'footway' tag for anywhere that you appear to be able to walk > nevermind if there's a footpath sign at the end. Yes, that's why I started to add certain road signs in my area to our database, especiall

Re: [OSM-talk] Zero point tag?

2008-05-16 Thread Francois De Ryckel
Yes Stefan! This is what I meant: how would you tag the Kilometre_Zero? (nothing to do with the geographic centre of countries) Cheers Francois Stefan Baebler wrote: > It might be that François wasn't talking about geographic centre of > countries, but established (read: old) reference poin

Re: [OSM-talk] Notability (was openstreetmap)

2008-05-16 Thread Karl Newman
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Andrew MacKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Nic Roets wrote: > > > >> If someone made the effort to physically survey it and properly tag > >> it, I think it's OK. > > > > Maintai

Re: [OSM-talk] Zero point tag?

2008-05-16 Thread Karl Newman
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Francois De Ryckel < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes Stefan! This is what I meant: how would you tag the Kilometre_Zero? > (nothing to do with the geographic centre of countries) > > Cheers > > Francois > Isn't that the same thing as a datum in modern cartography

Re: [OSM-talk] Converting Polish/.MP to OSM?

2008-05-16 Thread Karl Newman
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Simon Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 9 May 2008 00:24:11 -0600 > Simon Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well I've had a stab at this, probably the worlds worst python script but > it does work > > Cleaned up version added to SVN, browsable here