Re: [OSM-talk] Asus eee and OpenStreetMap

2008-10-18 Thread Lester Caine
Valent Turkovic wrote: > I would be really thankful if anyone can check it the packages are the > same on debian based distros and or does apt-get need to have some > other named packages. > > I would like to update my blog so that this howto also works for > debian/ubuntu. Are the other instructi

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Lester Caine
paul youlten wrote: > The difference between pubs and restaurants is a getting a bit > blurred. But not so much between pubs and cafes. > > In the UK pubs have to be licenced with the local council and usually > have restricted opening hours (i.e: they are not normally allowed to > sell alcohol be

Re: [OSM-talk] elephant trekking

2008-10-18 Thread Stefan Baebler
According to osmxapi statistics [1] there are already 2 elephants in OSM data. Should we see a sudden increase now? :) Stefan [1] http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/total.xml On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Nic Roets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd tag it as tourism=zoo and add a note ex

Re: [OSM-talk] roundabout vs miniround about

2008-10-18 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Saturday 18 October 2008 10:00:47 pm Subhodip Biswas wrote: > I can see a icon for mini roundabout in josm ...but though preset for > round about is there ,i cant find an icon for that .. > is there one .what i am missing ?? there is no icon for roundabout - you have to build one making a circl

Re: [OSM-talk] Asus eee and OpenStreetMap

2008-10-18 Thread Valent Turkovic
I would be really thankful if anyone can check it the packages are the same on debian based distros and or does apt-get need to have some other named packages. I would like to update my blog so that this howto also works for debian/ubuntu. Are the other instructions the same for debian/ubuntu? Do

[OSM-talk] Asus eee and OpenStreetMap

2008-10-18 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi I posted a new howto on my blog. I use Asus eee 701 with Fedora 9 installed to capture GPS traces and I have posted a howto on it. Asus eee 701 is cheap and great little and very portable laptop - just perfect for mapping! I hope you find this howto helpful. Bluetooth GPS Fedora howto: http://

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Dermot McNally
2008/10/18 paul youlten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Dermot said: >> "This situation used to be very common in Birmingham on the "Balti >> Mile". There, Indian restaurants offering affordable (and tasty) food >> traditionally did not have licences. " > > I always assumed that this was because most Balti

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread paul youlten
Dermot said: > "This situation used to be very common in Birmingham on the "Balti > Mile". There, Indian restaurants offering affordable (and tasty) food > traditionally did not have licences. " I always assumed that this was because most Balti Houses/Indian Restaurants are run by Bangladeshi Musl

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: > Hi, > > paul youlten wrote: >> The difference between pubs and restaurants is a getting a bit >> blurred. But not so much between pubs and cafes. > > [interesting details] > >> If a cafe or >> restaurant wants to sell alcohol they have to apply for a licence just >> like

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Dermot McNally
2008/10/18 Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Are there still proper restaurants in the UK without a license? Can you > then bring your own alcoholic beverages and have them served? I read > something about a "corking fee" related to this, but this may well have > been from 20 years ago. This s

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread paul youlten
The UK licencing laws only apply to selling alcohol; so if the cafe or restaurant is not licenced you can take your own wine (sometimes even if they do have a licence you can ask them if it is OK to bring your own bottle of wine) and while they cannot charge you for the drink they can charge you fo

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, paul youlten wrote: > The difference between pubs and restaurants is a getting a bit > blurred. But not so much between pubs and cafes. [interesting details] > If a cafe or > restaurant wants to sell alcohol they have to apply for a licence just > like a pub or a restaurant. Are there still

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread paul youlten
The difference between pubs and restaurants is a getting a bit blurred. But not so much between pubs and cafes. In the UK pubs have to be licenced with the local council and usually have restricted opening hours (i.e: they are not normally allowed to sell alcohol before 11am). They also have to co

Re: [OSM-talk] elephant trekking

2008-10-18 Thread Nic Roets
I'd tag it as tourism=zoo and add a note explaining what's there. It will allow people searching for attractions to find it. As an added benefit, the icon for a zoo is an elephant on mappaint?, gosmore and possibly other renderers. On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Joe Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Video with all OSM contributors

2008-10-18 Thread John07
Matt Amos schrieb: > On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Having seen the 11Mb video, I'd appreciate to have the 37Mb original. I'll >> play it in a conference in one month, and people should be able to at least >> try to read the names as they f

Re: [OSM-talk] Video with all OSM contributors

2008-10-18 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you attended the State of the Map 2008, you will sure remember the > star-wars style video that was played the last day, showing all the > contributors for all of the planet. > > Is this video uploaded somewhere? C

Re: [OSM-talk] roundabout vs miniround about

2008-10-18 Thread Joe Richards
The mini roundabout is a tag that you can apply to a single node (a dot in JOSM), whereas a roundabout is actually drawn using ways (the lines themselves). The direction of the roundabout is determined by the direction of the way (the lines with the arrows). I think you have to add oneway=yes

[OSM-talk] roundabout vs miniround about

2008-10-18 Thread Subhodip Biswas
hi ! I can see a icon for mini roundabout in josm ...but though preset for round about is there ,i cant find an icon for that .. is there one .what i am missing ?? -- Regards Subhodip Biswas Fedora Ambassador West Bengal , India GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wor

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Tim Waters (chippy)
But I've been in many cafes with no dedicated kitchens (Starbucks, for instance). And a lot of pubs with dedicated kitchens. A pub's main revenue comes from the booze. Many of them are closing down their kitchens to save money. Some pubs have a tiny bar, and most of it is a restaurant - so called

[OSM-talk] elephant trekking

2008-10-18 Thread Joe Richards
I am putting in a tourist attraction - elephant trekking in Thailand - since it's the kind of thing that when you visit you would want to know about, but how do I tag it? Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Matt Amos
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > El Sábado, 18 de Octubre de 2008, Pete Lawrence escribió: >> Restaurants v's cafe's are probably more likely to be mixed up. > > It's easy, actually: dedicated kitchen area or not. there are several cafes near me wit

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Sábado, 18 de Octubre de 2008, Pete Lawrence escribió: > Restaurants v's cafe's are probably more likely to be mixed up. It's easy, actually: dedicated kitchen area or not. -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You get along very well with everyone exc

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Ben Laenen
On Saturday 18 October 2008, Pete Lawrence wrote: > Hello, > > Pubs tend to be more centred around alcoholic drinks, typically > busiest during the evenings. Whereas cafe's tend to be more centred > around food during the day time. In the UK it is pretty easy to > distinguish between the two, els

Re: [OSM-talk] Old data being cached too long

2008-10-18 Thread Matias D'Ambrosio
On Saturday 18 October 2008 05:32:24 you wrote: > I've just grabbed a mapnik tile at random, and these are the headers > sent out with it: > > Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:20:05 GMT > Server: Apache/2.2.4 (Ubuntu) > Etag: "cb5563ba81dda2fd9bf27cba5a41164f" > Content-Length: 7149 > Cache-Control: max-a

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Pete Lawrence
Hello, Pubs tend to be more centred around alcoholic drinks, typically busiest during the evenings. Whereas cafe's tend to be more centred around food during the day time. In the UK it is pretty easy to distinguish between the two, elsewhere the distinction may not be as clear cut. Re

[OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Ben Laenen
Hi all, I'm wondering what in English language the exact difference is between http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tag:amenity=pub and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tag:amenity=cafe I always thought they were the same thing... So, how do you decide whether a place is a café or a

Re: [OSM-talk] Old data being cached too long

2008-10-18 Thread Tristan Scott
I've just grabbed a mapnik tile at random, and these are the headers sent out with it: Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:20:05 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.4 (Ubuntu) Etag: "cb5563ba81dda2fd9bf27cba5a41164f" Content-Length: 7149 Cache-Control: max-age=374906 Expires: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:28:32 GMT Content-Type:

[OSM-talk] osmdiff

2008-10-18 Thread GS
Good morning, again, there is something to see: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Osmdiff http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Osmdiff_reports Program is still under construction but it works. Still trying to optimize getting data online. So everything shown is BETA! If you want me t