[OSM-talk] Articlein LWN: OpenStreetMap contemplates licensing

2008-10-23 Thread Erik Johansson
There is an article in Linux Weekly News about Openstreetmap: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/304218/5ae21e1272da02ab/ Commentors are usually very sane over there so the comments might be worth giving some intelligent and loving clearifications. /Erik _

Re: [OSM-talk] Contraflow bus lane

2008-10-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > I also have one in the centre of Sutton Coldfield. Think when I > mapped it > (ages and ages ago) I made it two separate ways which obviously > isn't right. > So interested to hear what people think. +1. There's one in Worcester. Except it's labelled

Re: [OSM-talk] Contraflow bus lane

2008-10-23 Thread David Earl
On 23/10/2008 09:00, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > >> I also have one in the centre of Sutton Coldfield. Think when I >> mapped it >> (ages and ages ago) I made it two separate ways which obviously >> isn't right. >> So interested to hear what people thin

[OSM-talk] Calling all Yahoo! tracers. Manchester, UK needs you before Saturday!

2008-10-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Hi mappers :-) Do you have an hour to spare before Saturday? Would you like to be part of the Manchester Mapping Party [1] but can't get there this weekend? If so then it would be really cool if you could do a little tracing in Manchester to help some new users try out this mapping thing. Hopeful

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag alt_name

2008-10-23 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Matthias Julius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the two names or spellings of the name are equal in preference they > should both be included in the "name" tag, IMHO. > > I don't know any example, but if you search long enough you might find > a road with three name

Re: [OSM-talk] Calling all Yahoo! tracers. Manchester, UK needs you before Saturday!

2008-10-23 Thread Christoph Boehme
"Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We would suggest you limit the tracing to simply marking the roads and > applying an unclassified tag plus any notable buildings or points of > interest that are obvious. Should the traced roads not be tagged as "road" instead of un

Re: [OSM-talk] Contraflow bus lane

2008-10-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
David Earl wrote: >Sent: 23 October 2008 9:25 AM >To: Richard Fairhurst >Cc: osm >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Contraflow bus lane > >On 23/10/2008 09:00, Richard Fairhurst wrote: >> Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: >> >>> I also have one in the centre of Sutton Coldfield. Think when I >>> mapped

Re: [OSM-talk] Calling all Yahoo! tracers. Manchester, UK needs you before Saturday!

2008-10-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Christoph Boehme wrote: >Sent: 23 October 2008 9:41 AM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Calling all Yahoo! tracers. Manchester, UK needs >you before Saturday! > >"Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> We would suggest you limit the tracing to simply m

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag alt_name

2008-10-23 Thread David Earl
On 23/10/2008 01:14, Matthias Julius wrote: > I don't know any example, but if you search long enough you might find > a road with three names. What do you do then? "another_alt_name"? You already know the conventional answer: "alt_name=name1; name2" David

[OSM-talk] OSM from shape files

2008-10-23 Thread Andre Schoonbee
Hi List This is my second attempt :) I have my road data in shapefile and want to load that into OSM - any help or direction would be appreciated. Andre ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM from shape files

2008-10-23 Thread Skywave
http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/shp2osm/ On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Andre Schoonbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi List > This is my second attempt :) > > I have my road data in shapefile and want to load that into OSM - any help > or direction would be appreciate

[OSM-talk] waypoints.ph now using openstreetmap

2008-10-23 Thread maning sambale
Hi, waypoints.ph the premiere volunteer driven travel site of the Philippines "what's-a-nice-place-and-how-to-get-there" Now uses openstreetmap for some of their destinations. Example waypoint narrative: http://waypoints.ph/detail_gen.php?wpt=dangwa waypoint map: http://waypoints.ph/vmap.php?wpt

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM from shape files

2008-10-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 23.10.2008, at 11:34, Andre Schoonbee wrote: > I have my road data in shapefile and want to load that into OSM - > any help > or direction would be appreciated. What do you mean by "want to load that into OSM". Do you want to upload your data to the OSM server? Bye Frederik -- Frede

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM from shape files

2008-10-23 Thread Andre Schoonbee
Ho do I execute the file? Have tried the following command in Fedora (after chmod 777) ./shp2osm.pl namroads.shp > namroads.osm Regards Andre _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Skywave Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:56 AM To: talk@openstr

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM from shape files

2008-10-23 Thread Andre Schoonbee
into OSM". Do you want to upload your data to the OSM server? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3548 (20081023) __

[OSM-talk] brand=...

2008-10-23 Thread David Earl
I notice there is increasing use of a tag brand=... for things like shops, fuel, banks, atms etc. This seems like a good idea to me, as the name of something ("Murkets Corner filling station") can be different from its branding ("Shell"). Often you'd use them interchangeable ("Starbucks" doesn'

Re: [OSM-talk] brand=...

2008-10-23 Thread Skywave
I have been using myself the operator=tag for this kind of stuff. Any opinion if brand= is more suitable than operator+. On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:05 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I notice there is increasing use of a tag brand=... for things like > shops, fuel, banks, atms etc. This

Re: [OSM-talk] brand=...

2008-10-23 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:05 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I notice there is increasing use of a tag brand=... for things like > shops, fuel, banks, atms etc. This seems like a good idea to me, as the > name of something ("Murkets Corner filling station") can be different > from its

[OSM-talk] problem with WhereAmI and nokia E71

2008-10-23 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, I was trying to run WhereAmI with the nokia E71 - the problem is that the map is not getting downloaded - just a plain message saying 'download failed'. Any clues as to what reason for this could be? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___

Re: [OSM-talk] brand=...

2008-10-23 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 23 Oct 2008, at 12:18, Dave Stubbs wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:05 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I notice there is increasing use of a tag brand=... for things like shops, fuel, banks, atms etc. This seems like a good idea to me, as the name of something ("Murkets Corne

Re: [OSM-talk] brand=...

2008-10-23 Thread Hendrik T. Voelker
Skywave wrote: > I have been using myself the operator=tag for this kind of stuff. Any > opinion if brand= is more suitable than operator+. Even though the differentiation might be a thin line, but they are two different things. Just consider franchise concepts The operator of a patrol station i

Re: [OSM-talk] brand=...

2008-10-23 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Hendrik T. Voelker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Skywave wrote: >> I have been using myself the operator=tag for this kind of stuff. Any >> opinion if brand= is more suitable than operator+. > > Even though the differentiation might be a thin line, but they are two

Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik and openlayers?

2008-10-23 Thread spaetz
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:21:30PM -0500, Lukasz Szybalski wrote: > I still can't find an example of openstreet layers that uses google > style URL mapping (aka mapnik style)? Why don't you just go to informationfreeway.org and have a look at the source of that one page. it contains all you need.

Re: [OSM-talk] Contraflow bus lane

2008-10-23 Thread Matthias Julius
David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Given the existing use of psv=opposite_lane I'll go with that for now. > (I don't think it does clash with psv=other things BTW). I didn't mean to say that it clashes with the existing use of the psv tag, but it would be inconsistent with the way cycle la

Re: [OSM-talk] Contraflow bus lane

2008-10-23 Thread Matthias Julius
"Stephen Hope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Not all PSV's are buses. What else? Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] brand=...

2008-10-23 Thread Rory McCann
On 23/10/08 12:16, Skywave wrote: > I have been using myself the operator=tag for this kind of stuff. Any > opinion if brand= is more suitable than operator+. I've been using operator=... for things like ATMs. Rory ___ talk mailing list talk@openstree

Re: [OSM-talk] brand=...

2008-10-23 Thread David Earl
On 23/10/2008 12:18, Dave Stubbs wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:05 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I notice there is increasing use of a tag brand=... for things like >> shops, fuel, banks, atms etc. This seems like a good idea to me, as the >> name of something ("Murkets Corner f

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License update

2008-10-23 Thread 80n
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Jochen Topf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 09:24:37PM -0700, SteveC wrote: > > I've received back general comments from Wilson Sonsini ( > http://www.wsgr.com/WSGR/Index.aspx > > ) on the latest draft. > > > > My next task is to review those c

[OSM-talk] Diffs + osmxapi are no longer updated

2008-10-23 Thread Skywave
I see the latest diff is from 23-Oct-2008 04:14. Something wrong? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik and openlayers?

2008-10-23 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 23 Oct 2008, at 03:51, Lukasz Szybalski wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Lukasz Szybalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Shaun McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 22 Oct 2008, at 21:38, Lukasz Szybalski wrote: You've been pointed at a web page that

Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik and openlayers?

2008-10-23 Thread Lukasz Szybalski
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Shaun McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 23 Oct 2008, at 03:51, Lukasz Szybalski wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Lukasz Szybalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Shaun McDonald >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License update

2008-10-23 Thread SteveC
On 23 Oct 2008, at 07:17, 80n wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Jochen Topf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 09:24:37PM -0700, SteveC wrote: > > I've received back general comments from Wilson Sonsini > > (http://www.wsgr.com/WSGR/Index.aspx > > ) on the latest dr

Re: [OSM-talk] brand=...

2008-10-23 Thread Bob Jonkman
In my locality there is a gas station (petrol station) which has the name "Elmira Service Centre", is it owned and operated by Norm Stanaitis, and it has a prominent banner for "UPI" brand gasoline, recently switched from "Pioneer" brand gasoline. The locals all refer to this station as "Stanai

Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik and openlayers?

2008-10-23 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 23 Oct 2008, at 16:12, Lukasz Szybalski wrote: Is there an example where I could overwrite the url variable in the OpenStreetMap.js outside of that file? . (Because the way its delivered that file is more of a library file so I would like to keep any changes to it outside of that file if po

Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik and openlayers?

2008-10-23 Thread Lukasz Szybalski
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Shaun McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 23 Oct 2008, at 16:12, Lukasz Szybalski wrote: > >> >> Is there an example where I could overwrite the url variable in the >> OpenStreetMap.js outside of that file? . (Because the way its >> delivered that file is mo

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM from shape files

2008-10-23 Thread Andre Schoonbee
How do I execute the shp2osm.pl. I have Windows and also Linux (Fedora and Ubuntu). I have tried ./shp2osm.pl namroads.shp > namroads.osm and also ./shp2osm.pl namroads.shp. But it does not work. Continue getting an error that no use command used.. I need help PLEASE! Andre _

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM from shape files

2008-10-23 Thread Skywave
eciated. > > Andre > > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 3548 (2008

Re: [OSM-talk] Diffs + osmxapi are no longer updated

2008-10-23 Thread Jon Burgess
On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 16:56 +0200, Skywave wrote: > I see the latest diff is from 23-Oct-2008 04:14. Something wrong? The internal network connection on dev is broken. This has effected the munin graphs too. I've tried cycling the interface and driver but that has not helped. We might need to try

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM from shape files

2008-10-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > Just to covert my data to OSM format. I then want to load my data into JOSM > and update the relevant map sections. Then use JOSM to update OSM server. Then another option might be running a WMS server (UMN Mapserver) that reads your shapefiles and offers them as WMS service. The JOSM WMS

Re: [OSM-talk] brand=...

2008-10-23 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
Bob Jonkman schrieb: In my locality there is a gas station (petrol station) which has the name "Elmira Service Centre", is it owned and operated by Norm Stanaitis, and it has a prominent banner for "UPI" brand gasoline, recently switched from "Pioneer" brand gasoline. The locals all refer to th

Re: [OSM-talk] brand=...

2008-10-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Bob Jonkman wrote: > In my locality there is a gas station (petrol station) which has the name > "Elmira Service Centre", is it owned and operated by Norm Stanaitis, and > it has a prominent banner for "UPI" brand gasoline, recently switched from > "Pioneer" brand gasoline. The locals all r

Re: [OSM-talk] IEEE paper on OSM

2008-10-23 Thread Andy Allan
The last quote is by far the best :-) Cheers, Andy On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:14 AM, SteveC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I didn't see anyone post this so > > http://povesham.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/openstreetmap-user-generated-street-maps-ieee-pervasive-computing-paper/ > > > with the usual c

Re: [OSM-talk] Diffs + osmxapi are no longer updated

2008-10-23 Thread Grant Slater
Jon Burgess wrote: > The internal network connection on dev is broken. This has effected the > munin graphs too. I've tried cycling the interface and driver but that > has not helped. We might need to try a reboot next. > Kernel version bumped, tweaks and rebooted. Diffs are back, but we'll s

Re: [OSM-talk] problem with WhereAmI and nokia E71

2008-10-23 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 23 October 2008 04:50:10 pm Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > I was trying to run WhereAmI with the nokia E71 - the problem is that the > map is not getting downloaded - just a plain message saying 'download > failed'. Any clues as to what reason for this could be? looks like it was connectiv

Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik and openlayers?

2008-10-23 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 23 Oct 2008, at 17:16, Lukasz Szybalski wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Shaun McDonald > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On 23 Oct 2008, at 16:12, Lukasz Szybalski wrote: >> >>> >>> Is there an example where I could overwrite the url variable in the >>> OpenStreetMap.js outside of

Re: [OSM-talk] IEEE paper on OSM

2008-10-23 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The last quote is by far the best :-) > That would be "Nobody want to map council estates" which isn't the villas of the filthy rich which was my first thought. /Erik ___ talk ma

[OSM-talk] 55mb upload

2008-10-23 Thread Simone Cortesi
hi, I'm ready to upload a 55mb file to the API. is there some faster way than using bulk_import? thanks -S ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] 55mb upload

2008-10-23 Thread Tom Hughes
Simone Cortesi wrote: > I'm ready to upload a 55mb file to the API. is there some faster way > than using bulk_import? If there was, don't you think the bulk importer would use it? The best speed will probably be obtained by using the bulk importer running on the dev server, to reduce the laten