Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

2008-12-05 Thread D Tucny
Also deleted way 26645814 ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/26645814/history) that ran east from Australia... d 2008/12/5 D Tucny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Deleted way 27597540 ( > http://api.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27597540/history) >

[OSM-talk] Downtime

2008-12-05 Thread Tom Hughes
The web site and API will be down for an unknown period of time today, Saturday 6th December, while some electrical work is carried out in the building where most of our servers are hosted. We expect the downtime to start around 8-9am but we are not currently able to say what time the work will

Re: [OSM-talk] can your yournavigation support inter-island routing

2008-12-05 Thread Alex S.
Nic Roets wrote: > Yes. > http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=52.96331&flon=4.76825&tlat=53.0023&tlon=4.78954&v=motorcar&fast=1&layer=mapnik > > It's the slowest form of transport : > motorcar="3" psv="3"/> I try to route from ferry-dock to ferry-dock in my area and it works fine, but if I move

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-05 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 5 de Diciembre de 2008, Niccolo Rigacci escribió: > How much different is Yahoo imagery protocol from Microsoft > VirtualEarth [1] one? It's not about the protocol or the API, it's about the license. The Yahoo guys are happy with OSM using their imagery, but we just don't know about

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki "map features"

2008-12-05 Thread Beej Jorgensen
Gervase Markham wrote: > Which should I have done? That's the question I'm saying that anyone who > wants to extend a formerly binary tag with new values needs to provide > an answer to before they start using the new values. IMO, one should implement the even-more-defensive option C, which is: i

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki "map features"

2008-12-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Gervase Markham wrote: > Say I'm a general purpose renderer who shows access. I understand > bicycle="no" and bicycle="yes", and show them accordingly. You will also have to understand "way without bicycle tag" because that's what 90% of ways have. > Now, instead > of someone coming along w

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki "map features"

2008-12-05 Thread Gervase Markham
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Without commenting on the rest of the discussion: Surely you (the > renderer) must draw such an object as if there were no bicycle tag at > all, whatever that means for you. But that doesn't work, does it? Say I'm a general purpose renderer who shows access. I understand

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki "map features"

2008-12-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gervase Markham wrote: > Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > if access==no or access==false then allowed=no else allowed=yes > > So basically, you have to decide that all unknown values default > to either one or the other. > > If I'm a renderer, and I come across bicycle=difficult, and I only > know

Re: [OSM-talk] can your yournavigation support inter-island routing

2008-12-05 Thread Nic Roets
Hi Bernt, The default parameters for gosmore is that a ferry travels at 3 km/h and there is currently no way to override the parameters for specific object (It's not yet perfect !). The 3km/h allows for the time it will you will need to wait for the ferry to arrive, embarking, traveling and disemb

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki "map features"

2008-12-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Gervase Markham wrote: > If I'm a renderer, and I come across bicycle=difficult, and I only know > about "no" and "yes", which one do I assume? Without commenting on the rest of the discussion: Surely you (the renderer) must draw such an object as if there were no bicycle tag at all, whatev

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki "map features"

2008-12-05 Thread Gervase Markham
Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Sure it does. > > if access==no or access==false then allowed=no else allowed=yes So basically, you have to decide that all unknown values default to either one or the other. If I'm a renderer, and I come across bicycle=difficult, and I only know about "no" and "yes",

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Maps - OSM comparison

2008-12-05 Thread Edward Johnson
At CloudMade we have been doing a lot of research and comparison into the quality and completeness of the map but more focussing on Europe and the USA. So it is very interesting to see this and see just how far ahead we seem to be in less developed areas. I would be very interested in looking t

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-05 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 09:13:59PM +0100, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: > > is there a stand-alone yahoo WMS server? Yahoos license seem to allow this > and some users of my osm2go ask for yahoo images. Going through a > wms server would be the easiest and cleanest solution i think. How much diffe

Re: [OSM-talk] can your yournavigation support inter-island routing

2008-12-05 Thread Bernt M. Johnsen
Is this also a matter of proper tagging? http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=63.449421&flon=10.199466&tlat=63.50989&tlon=10.13994&v=motorcar&fast=1&layer=mapnik Here you get a 4 hour drive instead of 25 minutes with the ferry. 2008/12/5 Lambertus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think that the Channel Tun

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Name tag for amenity=bank and amenity=atm

2008-12-05 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shaun McDonald wrote: > I've always used name=, rather than operator= for banks. They are different things. The operator is the name of the company that runs the bank. The name is the name of the building or branch name. The renderers have the option

Re: [OSM-talk] can your yournavigation support inter-island routing

2008-12-05 Thread Lambertus
I think that the Channel Tunnel won't work because of it being a car/train connection which is not yet supported in Gosmore. The first ferry route that Nic showed [1] is a European ferry route, so the technique works. It's probably a matter of proper tagging for the other routes. [1]

Re: [OSM-talk] can your yournavigation support inter-island routing

2008-12-05 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nic Roets wrote: > Yes. > http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=52.96331&flon=4.76825&tlat=53.0023&tlon=4.78954&v=motorcar&fast=1&layer=mapnik > > It's the slowest form of transport : > motorcar="3" psv="3"/> It won't take the Channel Tunnel, or any U

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-05 Thread Aun Johnsen
>Message: 5 >Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0100 >From: "Till Harbaum / Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server? >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Hi, > >is there a stand-alone yahoo WMS server? Y

Re: [OSM-talk] Unification of OpenStreetBugs an Trac

2008-12-05 Thread Xav
Christoph : > I do not want to spend time writing a bug tracker that is then > rejected because of the way it stores the bug reports. If you propose a tag/value storage, there is no reason someone would reject it. Xav ___ talk mailing list talk@openst