[Talk-transit] Issues with evening / sundays routes

2010-02-25 Thread Tiziano D'Angelo
Hello to everyone, I'd like to hear your opinion about a specific issue I encountered during the mapping of Padova, Italy bus and tram network. I discussed this issue with Roland and we thought it was good to have a discussion here on the list. There are some daytime routes, line 3,5,10 as

Re: [talk-ph] Bacolod

2010-02-25 Thread Totor
Wow,it looks like Google copied mgarrucho's edits pretty accurately ^_^ http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=10.68148lon=122.95614layers=B0TF Maning, you contacted him already for information? Totor --- On Wed, 2/24/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: maning

Re: [talk-ph] Bacolod

2010-02-25 Thread maning sambale
Let's not jump into conclusions this early. :) On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Totor totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: Wow,it looks like Google copied mgarrucho's edits pretty accurately ^_^ http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=10.68148lon=122.95614layers=B0TF Maning, you contacted him

[talk-ph] FREE OSM-PH Map for Loadstone Satellite Navigation

2010-02-25 Thread maning sambale
I am offering a new free download service for Loadstone-GPS users Loadstone GPS is a satellite navigation software developed for Symbian Mobile/phones using the Series60 platform. It was designed as a navigational tool useful for blind and visually impaired people using screen readers.

Re: [talk-ph] City in well city names

2010-02-25 Thread Totor
You mark a point there Eugene, that could indeed be the reason for the word City in road signs. I think we should at least be consistent in the different pages / websites. From which data is this page generated : http://openstreetmap.org.ph/viewall.php ? Regards, Totor --- On Wed, 2/24/10,

Re: [talk-ph] [waypointsdotph] OSM-PH Marikina Mapping Party

2010-02-25 Thread Ed Garcia
Hi All, I would definitely like to join and would like to contribute by directly seeking out the locations of attraction sites or popular places in Marikina so they can be added to OSM and the vicinity maps of WaypointsDotPH. These are places like Good Eats, theme parks, museums, heritage

Re: [talk-ph] [waypointsdotph] OSM-PH Marikina Mapping Party

2010-02-25 Thread maning sambale
Alright Ed! I added this mapping goal in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Mapping_Party/Marikina#Mapping_objectives Some interesting places you can tackle maybe: - Bars and restaurants along Gil Fernando (formerly P. Tuazon) - Historical markers and museums

Re: [talk-ph] [waypointsdotph] OSM-PH Marikina Mapping Party

2010-02-25 Thread maning sambale
I suggest we prepare a list of specific POI you want in the map. Then we divide this hitlist as bounty to people in the assigned cake slice. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:45 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Alright Ed! I added this mapping goal in the wiki:

[talk-ph] Metro rail loop finally finished

2010-02-25 Thread maning sambale
Metro rail loop finally finished http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20100226-255382/Metro-rail-loop-finally-finished Of course it's in the map! http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/32223272 -- cheers, maning --

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward - and back

2010-02-25 Thread Vincent Auvigne
I have not followed the entire discussion but I think that Vic Morgan view is very synthetic and interesting. I'll just add a couple of questions: - How much is the ratio Contributors / users in Wikipedia ? - How much is it in OSM ? Vincent -Message d'origine- De :

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward - and back

2010-02-25 Thread Randy
Vic Morgan wrote: I just thought that you'd like the opinion of a (not so) newbie in this intense discussion. In order to attract people (potential mappers) to the site it has to offer something back - it has to have functionality. Not functionality to the mapper - Potlatch is quite adequate for

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-25 Thread Liz
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, SteveC wrote: This is starting to get silly that everyone else can have a free for all which I largely ignore, but if I legitimatly call someone out, even in negative tones, thats a crime of the highest order and not only that you don't even go check that i

[OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Liz
I would suggest that Potlatch is left alone for its devotees. I'd start with the following in the design brief for the Newbie Editor Can add nodes, label them with default tags only (other than name). Can add ways, again default tag list only, other than name. Very limited deletion ability (no

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread John Smith
On 25 February 2010 19:42, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: I would suggest that Potlatch is left alone for its devotees. I'd start with the following in the design brief for the Newbie Editor Can add nodes, label them with default tags only (other than name). Can add ways, again default tag list

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Richard Mann
Error-checking sounds like a great way of putting scary pop-ups on the screen to frighten newbies. So you'd have to be very very careful how clear they were. If in doubt leave them out. Leave these bugs to be detected by keepright etc. But there should be a way of editing names of existing

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread John Smith
On 25 February 2010 20:10, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: Error-checking sounds like a great way of putting scary pop-ups on the screen to frighten newbies. So you'd have to be very very careful how clear they were. If in doubt leave them out. Leave these bugs to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
I would like to see a global bug tracking and issue system for josm. that would include automatic checks on upload. imagine if all validity checks were stored globally. you could also do a validity filter on the map and only show validated ways. mike On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:13 AM, John Smith

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
That would include a better way to add comments to way and tag them for quality. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 25-02-10 10:50, John Smith schreef: On 25 February 2010 19:42, Lized...@billiau.net wrote: I would suggest that Potlatch is left alone for its devotees. I'd start with the following in the design brief for the Newbie Editor Can add nodes, label them with default tags only (other than

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward - and back

2010-02-25 Thread Kai Krueger
On -10/01/37 20:59, Randy wrote: Vic Morgan wrote: ... I think Vic has very nearly placed his finger on the issue. Many of the older OSMers are deeply entrenched in the ideology of OSM is not a map, but a database of the world and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But, this

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Gaz Davidson
If there are plans for a new web editor, can avoiding Flash be part of the considerations? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 25 February 2010 12:14, Gaz Davidson g...@bitplane.net wrote: If there are plans for a new web editor, can avoiding Flash be part of the considerations? I would like to know what you suggest in order to replace Flash. While I dislike Flash quite a bit, I fail to see what you could actually

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.comwrote: On 25 February 2010 12:14, Gaz Davidson g...@bitplane.net wrote: If there are plans for a new web editor, can avoiding Flash be part of the considerations? I would like to know what you suggest in order to

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 25 February 2010 13:30, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 February 2010 12:14, Gaz Davidson g...@bitplane.net wrote: If there are plans for a new web editor, can avoiding Flash be part of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 25 February 2010 10:42, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: I would suggest that Potlatch is left alone for its devotees. I'd start with the following in the design brief for the Newbie Editor Can add nodes, label them with default tags only (other than name). Can add ways, again default tag list

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread John Smith
On 25 February 2010 22:23, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: A full Javascript implementation is certainly possible with some of the new feature that are only in some browsers (read forget all browser except for I think you are over playing this, the openlayers JS can already do a

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 25 February 2010 13:00, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 February 2010 22:23, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: A full Javascript implementation is certainly possible with some of the new feature that are only in some browsers (read forget all browser

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.comwrote: On 25 February 2010 13:00, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 February 2010 22:23, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: A full Javascript implementation is certainly possible with some of

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/2/22 SteveC st...@asklater.com: On Feb 21, 2010, at 18:57, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/2/21 SteveC st...@asklater.com: Sure. In Germany you have this amazing community where there's a stamptish around every corner. But out here it's much harder and we need

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread David Fawcett
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:03 AM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: I don't want to Imagine the BAN THE NEW EDITOR voices here though. Potlatch was already considered too accessible by a lot of people, including me, although I think I got over it, because of the very non-technical

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread David Fawcett
I am guessing that OpenLayers could already have most of the functionality that is needed. The primary issue is with the practical limit on the number of vector features being handled by the browser. When used in IE, that is about 300 features. If you can manage the number of features downloaded

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-25 Thread David Fawcett
I have been contributing to OSM for several months, gulping down the Kool Aid. Man, was it sweet and fruity nectar. Lately, this juice is starting to taste really bitter and I am starting to see giant multi-colored spiders in the shadows... I love the idea of OSM, I love mapping my world and

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward - and back

2010-02-25 Thread Mike Harris
I think I am in the same camp as Kai / Randy / Vic ... I regard myself as not-quite-a-newbie-any-more (i.e. somewhere between Kai's 'Geek' and his 'Joe the Plumber'. I enjoy contributing to OSM as a mapper - both recording the GPX and editing it in JOSM (with

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward - and back

2010-02-25 Thread vpot...@gmail.com
Le 25/02/10 00:31, Vic Morgan a écrit : I just thought that you'd like the opinion of a (not so) newbie in this intense discussion. In order to attract people (potential mappers) to the site it has to offer something back - it has to have functionality. Not functionality to the mapper -

[OSM-talk] With apologies to RichardF/FakeSteveC

2010-02-25 Thread SteveC
Recently I've been a bit negative about potlatch and by over-extension to RichardF. I apologise, sorry! To make amends, I have ordered an amazing I love you bean: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/science/c6f0/ http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/front/c6f0_i_love_you_bean.jpg and a

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-25 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 February 2010 17:19, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: I completely disagree. We're running a project to map the world, We agree on that - but I claim that to do so effectively we have to harness the power of

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Michal Migurski
On Feb 25, 2010, at 6:32 AM, Ian Dees wrote: Most of this is fairly trivial. The trickiest part is (a) making an API call to return the way closest to a given pair of coordinates and (b) make it fast enough for franticly-clicking newbies to not get upset when it doesn't respond

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-25 Thread Dermot McNally
On 25 February 2010 17:28, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Are you sure about that?  How many people does it take to map the world? 1,000?  10,000?  100,000?  1,000,000?  More than that? The more the merrier.  But I'm not sure about the whole we have to part... Alright - let's settle on we

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 25 February 2010 16:04, David Fawcett david.fawc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:03 AM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: I don't want to Imagine the BAN THE NEW EDITOR voices here though. Potlatch was already considered too accessible by a lot of people, including

Re: [OSM-talk] With apologies to RichardF/FakeSteveC

2010-02-25 Thread Milo van der Linden
Excelent! I hope one day you will have to apologise to me too! You made my day with this hilarious mail! ;-) Kind regards, Milo van der Linden SteveC wrote: Recently I've been a bit negative about potlatch and by over-extension to RichardF. I apologise, sorry! To make amends, I have

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Randy
andrzej zaborowski wrote: All I'm saying is you surely remember all these threads on this list and if you want to make a new editor that's easier than Potlatch then it's more likely that there will be this kind of voices. And if the editor soon gets banned then it wasn't very useful to spend

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: I would suggest that Potlatch is left alone for its devotees. I'd start with the following in the design brief for the Newbie Editor Can add nodes, label them with default tags only (other than name). Can add ways, again default

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: How about an even bigger step back? Actually I just realised that, alternatively, perhaps we could be looking at something like Mapzen POI Collector for the desktop? ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-25 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 February 2010 17:28, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Are you sure about that? How many people does it take to map the world? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000? 1,000,000? More than that? The more the merrier. But

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Graham Jones
I are with keeping the scope very limited - if we start to add too many features you will get Potlatch, which would defeat the object of a very simple, easy to use editor for people that do not understand much about the underlying data structure. I think that Adding POIs and changing labels of

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread silversurfer
There is a similar concept on http://ae.osmsurround.org/. It is called OSM Amenity Editor. gkai On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:47:18 +0100, Graham Jones grahamjones...@googlemail.com wrote: I are with keeping the scope very limited - if we start to add too many features you will get Potlatch,

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Graham Jones
A simple/complex switch in an existing editor is a nice idea. I didn't suggest it because Potlatch is the obvious candidate and I know nothing about Flash programming, so couldn't offer to help do that - I would have a bit more chance with a Java applet, but I am a bit old fashioned like that!

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz wrote: For future discussion, once scope has been determined: Would it be an idea to provide a toggle between simple mode complex mode inside of Potlatch, rather than build a completely new editor? I think it first

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:11 AM, silversurfer silversur...@oleco.net wrote: There is a similar concept on http://ae.osmsurround.org/. It is called OSM Amenity Editor. Wow, that's great! How did I not know about this editor? :S Liz, how does this compare to what you had in mind? Too simple? I

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Tobias Knerr
silversurfer wrote: There is a similar concept on http://ae.osmsurround.org/. It is called OSM Amenity Editor. In order to be a truly easy editor it would need fixed and localized data entry masks instead of text fields. Imo, we cannot expect newbies to look up and edit raw key/value strings.

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Randy
Roy Wallace wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: I would suggest that Potlatch is left alone for its devotees. I'd start with the following in the design brief for the Newbie Editor Can add nodes, label them with default tags only (other than name). Can add ways,

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of Newbie Editor

2010-02-25 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Roy Wallace a e'crit: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:11 AM, silversurfer silversur...@oleco.net wrote: There is a similar concept on http://ae.osmsurround.org/. It is called OSM Amenity Editor. Wow, that's great! How did I not know about this editor? :S Liz, how does this compare to what

[OSM-talk-nl] history

2010-02-25 Thread YRS
Hallo lijst, Het lijkt me een leuk idee om de geschiedenis van mijn omgeving zichtbaar te maken. Ik denk aan een applicatie die met een slider door de tijd kan schuiven en dan de verandering in de omgeving laat zien. Daarvoor zoek ik naar een manier om de benodigde data in de osm db op te

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] history

2010-02-25 Thread Rob
Op 25 februari 2010 22:17 heeft YRS jav...@hccnet.nl het volgende geschreven: Hallo lijst, Het lijkt me een leuk idee om de geschiedenis van mijn omgeving zichtbaar te maken. Ik denk aan een applicatie die met een slider door de tijd kan schuiven en dan de verandering in de omgeving laat

Re: [talk-au] Overmapping?

2010-02-25 Thread Sam Wilson
On 25/2/10 3:59 AM, Liz wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Roy Wallace wrote: This, on the other hand, may well be true. But IMHO this is NOT a reason to limit what gets entered into the OSM database, but simply to *pre-process* the OSM data (filtering out unwanted details as desired) prior to

Re: [talk-au] Overmapping?

2010-02-25 Thread John Smith
On 25 February 2010 18:57, Sam Wilson s...@archives.org.au wrote: Of course, it's that slippery slope again: at what point will someone come along and want to map footpaths as areas?! Actually, the GIS data that I'm most familiar with (not to imply that I'm familiar with it at all, really) is

Re: [talk-au] Overmapping?

2010-02-25 Thread Sam Wilson
On 25/2/10 6:05 PM, Richard Colless wrote: in to the 50m level. The attached file shows what it looks like on my Etrex. The footways are much smaller than the roads, and don't really add to the clutter. In fact, when I zoomed in to 8m the display became less cluttered. So I guess we can

Re: [talk-au] Overmapping?

2010-02-25 Thread John Smith
On 25 February 2010 20:37, Sam Wilson s...@archives.org.au wrote: In terms of map clutter, that parking off to the left is more of a worry: it's tagged access=private, so surely shouldn't really be mapped? Mapped, or shown on maps? ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Overmapping?

2010-02-25 Thread Sam Wilson
On 25/2/10 7:07 PM, John Smith wrote: Mapped, or shown on maps? Ah yes, right: shown on /that/ map. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] License to OSM

2010-02-25 Thread John Smith
I've hacked up an example of what something like this could look like... http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/osm-license.png ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[Talk-br] Relatório Semanal: 25/02/2010

2010-02-25 Thread Vitor George
*Status dos Projetos OSM-br* * B250C - Brasil 250 Cidades* Página do Projeto: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Brazil/Brasil_250_Cidades ***2a. fase* Conectividade em *58,32%* *(+57,81% na semana)* Grid Atualizado (html): http://mapaslivres.org/cidades-distancias.html (13 Mb) Grid

[Talk-br] Como impedir edições?

2010-02-25 Thread Alexandre Parente Lima
Oi. To frustado... Descobri hoje que o openstreetmap não é uma wikipedia. Fui recentemente para para natal-RN, então obti a trilha João pessoa Natal, tudo bem... jogo no osm e edito tudo legal lá. Ai hoje vou completar o trabalho... e vejo que um tal de rainerr apagou tudo, jogou uma trilha lá

Re: [Talk-de] Länge von Straßen berechnen

2010-02-25 Thread Andreas Neumann
Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:25:09 +0100 Von: Armin Schuchter mail@marchmol.at An: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch talk-de@openstreetmap.org Betreff: [Talk-de] Länge von Straßen berechnen Hallo, ich würde gerne eine Liste mit Straßen erstellen,

Re: [Talk-de] Apple User

2010-02-25 Thread Christian Schmitt
Ähm ja. Sowas in der Richtung hatte ich mir dann gedacht :) Aber Hand auf's Herz: als Tüftler, Bastler, Entwickler oder wie Du Dich auch nennen magst ist es für Dich wahrscheinlich das größte Vergnügen Dein System einschl. Software selber zusammenzustellen und per Handarbeit zum Laufen zu

[Talk-de] Tool für Abbiegeverbot, Achslast, Durchfahrtshöhe

2010-02-25 Thread Markus
Als Fussgänger und Radfahrer hatte ich das sträflicherweise bisher nie beachtet. Als frischgebackener Navi-Besitzer möchte ich das gern ändern. Wo finde ich ein pfiffiges Tool, mit dem ich Abbiegeverbote mit meinem neuen WinCE-PNA unterwegs erfassen kann? Dann könnte ich auch gleich

Re: [Talk-de] Motivation zum Beheben von Bug-meldungen von kommerziellen Verwertern der OSM Daten?!?

2010-02-25 Thread Oliver Kuehn (skobbler)
Wird Skobbler die OSM Datenbank nach seinen Wünschen und/oder mit/gegen den Willen der Community aktiv umzugestalten versuchen? Marcus hat auf dem skobbler-Blog dazu einige Gedanken zusammengefasst: http://blog.skobbler.de/2010/02/skobbler-osm-segen-fluch-1v2/ Um soviel vorwegzunehmen: skobbler

Re: [Talk-de] Tool für Abbiegeverbot, Achslast, Durchfahrtshöhe

2010-02-25 Thread Andre Joost
Markus schrieb: Als Fussgänger und Radfahrer hatte ich das sträflicherweise bisher nie beachtet. Als frischgebackener Navi-Besitzer möchte ich das gern ändern. Wo finde ich ein pfiffiges Tool, mit dem ich Abbiegeverbote mit meinem neuen WinCE-PNA unterwegs erfassen kann? Dann könnte ich

Re: [Talk-de] Tool für Abbiegeverbot, Achslast, Durchfahrtshöhe

2010-02-25 Thread Andre Joost
Nachtrag: ist auch auf Deutsch erklärt: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:OSMtracker gruß, André Joost ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Werte fuer XY:urban XY:rural etc.

2010-02-25 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Hallo Julian, Doru Julian Bugariu schrieb: Nicht direkt Tabelle, aber hilft http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Maxspeed da evtl. ein wenig weiter? Danke. Das sieht vielversprechend aus. hast Du auch vor, die richtungsabhängigen maxspeeds zu unterstützen, also

Re: [Talk-de] Tool für Abbiegeverbot, Achslast, Durchfahrtshöhe

2010-02-25 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Hallo Markus, Markus schrieb: Wo finde ich ein pfiffiges Tool, mit dem ich Abbiegeverbote mit meinem neuen WinCE-PNA unterwegs erfassen kann? Dann könnte ich auch gleich Durchfahrtshöhen, Achslasten, Einbahnstrassen mitschreiben. Wie installiere ich dieses Tool? Wie lade ich die

Re: [Talk-de] Routing auf Navi für Anfänger

2010-02-25 Thread Andre Joost
Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR) schrieb: Also NaviPOWM (kostenlos) z.B. sollte problemlos laufen. So richtig navigieren kann man aber mit dem doch auch (noch) nicht? Oder kan man da inzwischen ein Ziel eingeben und los drücken? Kartenanzeige tuts ja auch bei gpsvp und osmtracker, um meine

Re: [Talk-de] Tauchen

2010-02-25 Thread Dimitri Junker
Hallo, Ja, OpenSeaMap ist auch ein Overlay. Es besteht aber aus gerenderten Kacheln Das bezweifel ich, wenn ich eines der Icons in Mozille mit rechts anklicke und Grafik anzeigen auswähle komme ich zu: http://map.openseamap.org/map/resources/places/marina_32.png und zwar für jede Marina - da

Re: [Talk-de] Apple User

2010-02-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Bernd Wurst wrote: Aber ich denke die Diskussion können wir hier getrost ruhen lassen und (wenn du Interesse hast) privat fortsetzen. Mit OSM hat das wenig zu tun. Schade, ich wollte gerade Gentoo is for ricers einwerfen ;-) Bye Frederik

Re: [Talk-de] Routing auf Navi für Anfänger

2010-02-25 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Andre Joost schrieb: Also NaviPOWM (kostenlos) z.B. sollte problemlos laufen. So richtig navigieren kann man aber mit dem doch auch (noch) nicht? Oder kan man da inzwischen ein Ziel eingeben und los drücken? nein, geht noch nicht. Das liegt aber an NaviPOWM und nicht am

Re: [Talk-de] Apple User

2010-02-25 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Donnerstag 25 Februar 2010 11:12:19 schrieb Frederik Ramm: Bernd Wurst wrote: Aber ich denke die Diskussion können wir hier getrost ruhen lassen und (wenn du Interesse hast) privat fortsetzen. Mit OSM hat das wenig zu tun. Schade, ich wollte gerade Gentoo is for ricers einwerfen ;-)

Re: [Talk-de] Strassenlistenabgleich - jetzt in Selbstbedienung

2010-02-25 Thread 1248
Walter Nordmann wrote: ich kenn mich zwar in Münster nicht aus, aber das müßte ein reales Kreuz (Denkmal, ...) sein. Zumindest auf dieser Karte, die wir ja eigentlich ... Dann kann man es natürlich taggen und das Problem Punkt mit Namen aus der Welt schaffen. Fragt mal nen Münsteraner -

[Talk-de] Liste der Bots

2010-02-25 Thread Marco Lechner - FOSSGIS e.V.
Hallo, gibt es irgendwo eine Liste in der (einige | manche | viele) Bots, also deren verwendete userID, gelistet ist? Marco ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Liste der Bots

2010-02-25 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Donnerstag 25 Februar 2010 11:36:23 schrieb Marco Lechner - FOSSGIS e.V.: gibt es irgendwo eine Liste in der (einige | manche | viele) Bots, also deren verwendete userID, gelistet ist? Gefällt dir an http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bots irgendwas nicht? Gruß, Bernd -- Wer in einem

Re: [Talk-de] Roll-Up für Messe

2010-02-25 Thread Marco Lechner - FOSSGIS e.V.
das RollUp ist bezahlt, produziert, abgeholt und wird am nächsten Montag auf die Reise von Bonn nach Osnabrück gehen. Marco Ulf Lamping schrieb: Am 10.02.2010 07:29, schrieb Torsten Breda: Am 10. Februar 2010 00:24 schrieb Ulf Lampingulf.lamp...@googlemail.com: Am 10.02.2010 00:02,

Re: [Talk-de] Werte fuer XY:urban XY:rural etc.

2010-02-25 Thread Doru Julian Bugariu
Hallo Stefan, hast Du auch vor, die richtungsabhängigen maxspeeds zu unterstützen, also maxspeed:forward=* maxspeed:backward=* Sind schon implementiert, scheinen auch zu funktionieren und werden in der (in den naechsten Tagen) erscheinenden Version 0.2.4 enthalten sein. Ich muss allerdings

Re: [Talk-de] Strassenlistenabgleich - jetzt in Selbstbedienung

2010-02-25 Thread Stefan Schwan
Am 25. Februar 2010 11:25 schrieb 1248 1...@gmx.de: Walter Nordmann wrote: ich kenn mich zwar in Münster nicht aus, aber das müßte ein reales Kreuz (Denkmal, ...) sein. Zumindest auf dieser Karte, die wir ja eigentlich ... Dann kann man es natürlich taggen und das Problem Punkt mit Namen

Re: [Talk-de] neue mapgen version 0.09 veröffentli cht

2010-02-25 Thread Martin Simon
Am 24. Februar 2010 17:27 schrieb Gary68 g...@gary68.de: hallo martin, du müsstest das heruntergeladene gebiet zunächst mit osmosis und bounding box beschneiden, parameter clipincompleteentities o.ä. eine andere möglichkeit wäre, wenn du einen place=xy in der mitte der karte hast, die

Re: [Talk-de] Tauchen

2010-02-25 Thread Olaf Hannemann
Hallo Dimitri, Ja, OpenSeaMap ist auch ein Overlay. Es besteht aber aus gerenderten Kacheln Das bezweifel ich, wenn ich eines der Icons in Mozille mit rechts anklicke und Grafik anzeigen auswähle komme ich zu: http://map.openseamap.org/map/resources/places/marina_32.png und zwar für jede

Re: [Talk-de] Liste der Bots

2010-02-25 Thread Marco Lechner - FOSSGIS e.V.
doch sehr hübsch gefällt mir ;-) Marco Bernd Wurst schrieb: Am Donnerstag 25 Februar 2010 11:36:23 schrieb Marco Lechner - FOSSGIS e.V.: gibt es irgendwo eine Liste in der (einige | manche | viele) Bots, also deren verwendete userID, gelistet ist? Gefällt dir an

Re: [Talk-de] Routing auf Navi für Anfänger

2010-02-25 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Am 25.02.2010 11:03, schrieb Andre Joost: Also NaviPOWM (kostenlos) z.B. sollte problemlos laufen. So richtig navigieren kann man aber mit dem doch auch (noch) nicht? Es gibt meines Wissens exakt eine Anwendung, die auf WinCE auf Basis von OSM-Karten routen kann. Aber das Ding läuft so, dass

Re: [Talk-de] Routing auf Navi für Anfänger

2010-02-25 Thread Sven Geggus
Johann H. Addicks addi...@gmx.net wrote: Es gibt meines Wissens exakt eine Anwendung, die auf WinCE auf Basis von OSM-Karten routen kann. Das sieht auf anderen mobilen Plattformen kaum besser aus. Navit ist anscheinend nix für Anfänger (Achtung hörensagen!). Aber das Ding läuft so, dass es

Re: [Talk-de] Routing auf Navi für Anfänger

2010-02-25 Thread Andre Joost
Sven Geggus schrieb: Johann H. Addicks addi...@gmx.net wrote: Es gibt meines Wissens exakt eine Anwendung, die auf WinCE auf Basis von OSM-Karten routen kann. Das sieht auf anderen mobilen Plattformen kaum besser aus. Navit ist anscheinend nix für Anfänger (Achtung hörensagen!). Nee,

Re: [Talk-de] Mehr Karten auf der Homepage?

2010-02-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 24. Februar 2010 06:33 schrieb Andreas Labres l...@lab.at: Also mein Bedarf, diese rüde Sprache in seitenlangem Englisch zu lesen, hält sich in Grenzen. ;-) Ich fände es aber gut, die dort angesprochenen Punkte auch hier zu diskutieren. hm, vermutlich wäre die Sichtbarkeit im engl.

Re: [Talk-de] Routing auf Navi für Anfänger

2010-02-25 Thread Tim Teulings
Hallo! (aus gegebenen Anlass ;-)). Ich bin seit einiger Zeit an der Entwicklung von libosmscout (http://libosmscout.sf.net). Ziel dieser Entwicklung ist das Bereitstellen von Basisfunktionalitäten für offline-fähige Navgiationssoftware. Dies beinhaltet das Zeichnen von Karten, das Suchen von

Re: [Talk-de] Routing auf Navi für Anfänger

2010-02-25 Thread Sven Geggus
Tim Teulings r...@edge.ping.de wrote: Für dieses Projekt suche ich noch Hilfe. Bei Fragen/Interesse bitte an mich wenden :-) Wäre es vielleicht sinnvoll einen Lightning Talk auf der FOSSGIS zu machen? Siehe Mail von Fred! Gruss Sven -- All bugs added by David S. Miller da...@redhat.com

Re: [Talk-de] Routing auf Navi für Anfänger

2010-02-25 Thread Tim Teulings
Hallo! Für dieses Projekt suche ich noch Hilfe. Bei Fragen/Interesse bitte an mich wenden :-) Wäre es vielleicht sinnvoll einen Lightning Talk auf der FOSSGIS zu machen? Siehe Mail von Fred! Darüber habe ich sogar schon nachgedacht. Bonn-Osnabrück ist auch prinzipiell machbar, aber auf

Re: [Talk-de] FOSSGIS/OSM-Konferenz: Anmeldung noch bis 2 6.Februar möglich

2010-02-25 Thread Florian Gross
Gehling Marc glaubte zu wissen: Am 24.02.2010 um 15:39 schrieb Florian Gross: Mirko Küster glaubte zu wissen: Es geht hier um Massenmails die für eine Veranstaltung innerhalb des Projektes werben zu dem sich der Benutzer selbst angemeldet hat! Derzeit gibt es den Schalter Informiere mich

Re: [Talk-de] neue mapgen version 0.09 veröffentli cht

2010-02-25 Thread Gary68
hi. problem ist auch noch, dass ich keine wege mit nur einem knoten akzeptiere, diese dann aber in relationen gebraucht werden könnten. mal sehen. das mit den höhenlinien sollte eigentlich kein problem sein. denke ich. es gibt ja höhenlinien im osm format, oder? und osmosis müsste die zu den

Re: [Talk-de] Routing auf Navi für Anfänger

2010-02-25 Thread Markus
Guten Morgen André! Dann habe ich ja Glück: WinCE scheint zu den verbreiteten OS zu gehören. Im Prinzip schon, nur ist dein Core-Version eine abgespeckte Version, die nur diejenigen Treiber hat, die dein Hersteller für seine Software braucht. Verstehe. Aber man könnte doch einfach eine

Re: [Talk-de] neue mapgen version 0.09 veröffentli cht

2010-02-25 Thread Gary68
osm.pm akzeptiert keine negativen ids... wo kommen die her? uninitialisierte werte lassen drauf schließen, dass referenzierte objekte fehlen. On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 18:38 +0100, Johann H. Addicks wrote: Am 25.02.2010 16:44, schrieb Gary68: problem ist auch noch, dass ich keine wege mit nur

Re: [Talk-de] Routing auf Navi für Anfänger

2010-02-25 Thread geo.osm
Hallo André, Hat jemand mit gosmore Erfolge erzielt? Was verstehst du unter Erfolgen? Also bei mir läuft es. Aber der Routingalgorithmus ist meines Erachtens nicht der beste. Jedenfalls bin ich damit nicht so ganz zufrieden. Vom Layout/Rendering und der Benutzerfreundlichkeit möchte ich

Re: [Talk-de] Kurzanleitung zum Erstellen von routingf ähigen Karten von Inseln mit Meer drumrum

2010-02-25 Thread Daniela Duerbeck
Hi Torsten! Die Verwendung mehrer Layer hat verschiedene Vorzuege: Klar hast Du damit Recht, nur die Sache ist die: Ein Anfänger ist erstmal überfordert mit der ganzen Fülle von Möglichkeiten. Es ist schon schwer genug, die basics erstmal zu verstehen. Deshalb war ich ja so begeistert von

[Talk-de] Edit in Josm, Greasemonkey-Script von Matteo Gottardi

2010-02-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Hallo Liste, habe gerade das Greasemonkey-Script von Matteo Gottardi ausprobiert, es erzeugt auf openstreetmap.org unten rechts unterhalb von Permalink einen Link Edit in Josm. Damit das auch funktioniert muss natürlich JOSM laufen und dort das Remote-Plugin installiert sein. Das Script findet

Re: [Talk-de] Routing auf Navi für Anfänger

2010-02-25 Thread Andre Joost
Markus schrieb: Dann habe ich ja Glück: WinCE scheint zu den verbreiteten OS zu gehören. Im Prinzip schon, nur ist dein Core-Version eine abgespeckte Version, die nur diejenigen Treiber hat, die dein Hersteller für seine Software braucht. Verstehe. Aber man könnte doch einfach eine

Re: [Talk-de] Routing auf Navi für Anfänger

2010-02-25 Thread Andre Joost
geo.osm schrieb: Hallo André, Hat jemand mit gosmore Erfolge erzielt? Was verstehst du unter Erfolgen? Also bei mir läuft es. Aber der Routingalgorithmus ist meines Erachtens nicht der beste. Jedenfalls bin ich damit nicht so ganz zufrieden. Vom Layout/Rendering und der

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