Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread Michal Migurski
On Jul 29, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > John Firebaugh wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Greg Troxel > > wrote: >> >>I'd like to see two things different; both of these are regressions from >>the old way and I think easy to address >> >> I beli

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread Greg Troxel
John Firebaugh writes: > On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: >> >> I'd like to see two things different; both of these are regressions from >> the old way and I think easy to address > > I believe that persisting the location and zoom in the URL hash will > address both of these

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread Lester Caine
John Firebaugh wrote: On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Greg Troxel mailto:g...@ir.bbn.com>> wrote: I'd like to see two things different; both of these are regressions from the old way and I think easy to address I believe that persisting the location and zoom in the URL hash will addres

Re: [OSM-talk] Gamification and OSM (Was: Upgraded map controls)

2013-07-29 Thread Johan C
2013/7/29 Michal Migurski > Gamification can refer to a lot of things, but it boils down > comparing/pitting users against one another. Around 9:10, Saman highlights > Strava, "designed to incentivize activity". At 10:10, the suggestion for > OSM includes comparisons to others ("mapper level") an

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread John Firebaugh
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > I'd like to see two things different; both of these are regressions from > the old way and I think easy to address > I believe that persisting the location and zoom in the URL hash will address both of these concerns. Please try it out: htt

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread John F. Eldredge
I had intended to send this to the list, not just to Lester Caine. Original Message From: "John F. Eldredge" Sent: Mon Jul 29 14:16:32 CDT 2013 To: Lester Caine Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page I had always assumed that the "Where am I" made the

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread AJ Ashton
Woops, can't count. Its 6th birthday is in a month. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 1:13 PM, AJ Ashton wrote: > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > >> Well I never ... How long has that been there? >> > > As long as I can remember. Checked the logs out of curiosity - the feature > j

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread AJ Ashton
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > Well I never ... How long has that been there? > As long as I can remember. Checked the logs out of curiosity - the feature just had its 6th birthday on Friday :) https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/commit/d2bd78627e3903e

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread Lester Caine
AJ Ashton wrote: On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Lester Caine mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk>> wrote: The point I was trying to make is the fact that when one is supplied a link one often does not know where in the world it is, especially the encrypted ones. I asked a number of times in

Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-29 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2013-07-21 22:06, Yohan Boniface wrote: On 07/21/2013 09:49 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: IMHO at the moment they have become superfluous. There is no way anymore to zoom in or out more than one step at a time by using on-map controls as there was with the old slider. So I'm using the mouse now to

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread AJ Ashton
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > The point I was trying to make is the fact that when one is supplied a > link one often does not know where in the world it is, especially the > encrypted ones. I asked a number of times in the past for some description > on where we have be

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Ah-- sorry. Misunderstood :) On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > Kathleen Danielson wrote: > >> I'm coming to the same conclusion ... need SOMETHING rather than >> having to >> decode other information. Since there is now a tab for the links, >> perhaps >> that c

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread Lester Caine
Kathleen Danielson wrote: I'm coming to the same conclusion ... need SOMETHING rather than having to decode other information. Since there is now a tab for the links, perhaps that could also be used to add the location information as well. It's now even more difficult to quickly z

Re: [OSM-talk] Gamification and OSM (Was: Upgraded map controls)

2013-07-29 Thread Janko Mihelić
> > 2013/7/29 Bryce Nesbitt : > > > Games can be... gamed. > > As a pipsqeak in the power pole mapping influence peddling ring, I could > > zoom to the top with a few evenings of shifting nodes that did not really > > need shifting. If the game is important enough to be gamed... it will be > > gam

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread Tom MacWright
> Since we perform no systematic user testing in advance of these changes ( http://teczno.com/s/92x), we're not really sure what a pro user is. Given that this is a continual point for years, I would implore someone who has the resources to just do it, so we can stop using it as an immovable point

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread Kathleen Danielson
> > I'm coming to the same conclusion ... need SOMETHING rather than having to > decode other information. Since there is now a tab for the links, perhaps > that could also be used to add the location information as well. It's now > even more difficult to quickly zoom out to find out where in the w

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread Lester Caine
Greg Troxel wrote: add some indication of zoom level. I'd be happy with a "z15" box between + and -. I'm coming to the same conclusion ... need SOMETHING rather than having to decode other information. Since there is now a tab for the links, perhaps that could also be used to add the l

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread Michal Migurski
On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:13 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Michal Migurski wrote: >> Provable evidence that the view tab is not sufficiently >> informing visitors of its functionality? Having a button >> that says “link” is a great clue that there is an option >> to link vs. hunting around. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Michal Migurski wrote: > Provable evidence that the view tab is not sufficiently > informing visitors of its functionality? Having a button > that says “link” is a great clue that there is an option > to link vs. hunting around. Perhaps, but this is definitely a pro feature. There _is_ a butto

Re: [OSM-talk] Gamification and OSM (Was: Upgraded map controls)

2013-07-29 Thread Michal Migurski
Hi Stefan, I'll switch to this thread as well. On Jul 28, 2013, at 3:40 AM, Stefan Keller wrote: > Hi Michal > > To come back this thread I'm interested in what you refer to by > "Gamification". > > What was Saman referring to in his talk regarding gamification of the > OSM UI? I found the vid