Re: [OSM-talk-fr] highway et limites administratives confondues

2015-08-23 Thread Christian Quest
Les limites administratives des communes ne sont en général pas liées à la voirie ou autre objet physique, par contre, les cantons intra-communaux étant définis par les rues (dans le JORF), ça me semble logique de s'appuyer sur leur géométries... même si effectivement ça peut paraitre incohérent

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-23 Thread Dave F.
On 23/08/2015 01:27, Balaco Baco wrote: What we need is a database that already has all the data and simply identify when some small elements of it cease to be current. In OSM we do that by deleting the small elements ;) I'm sorry. But this is just a stupid thing to do. Are you saying if a

Re: [Talk-in] Bangalore and its connection with the Great Trigonometric Survey

2015-08-23 Thread Arun Ganesh
This was a truly fascinating talk from someone who took the efforts to explore these historical treasures right in our backyard. Had no clue the Bangalore was the location of the first base line for GTS before the more accurate Madras base line measurement. Highly recommend everyone to take a

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-23 Thread Balaco Baco
Wrong data is worse than absent data. Osm has so far only contained current data, so that's what 99.99% of consumers expect to find in it, so historical data is wrong data. That'll remain true as long as osm lacks a good way to store historical data that doesn't confuse the vast majority of

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-23 Thread Dave F.
On 23/08/2015 16:49, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 08/23/2015 02:27 AM, Balaco Baco wrote: I'm sorry. But this is just a stupid thing to do. To have no data and to have the most recently obtained data are two very different things. Certainly you're not suggesting we map all these negatives. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 08/23/2015 02:27 AM, Balaco Baco wrote: I'm sorry. But this is just a stupid thing to do. To have no data and to have the most recently obtained data are two very different things. I think you're arguing a different case here - one that is also interesting but about something else, and

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-23 Thread Mike N
On 8/23/2015 2:03 PM, Dave F. wrote: Are you saying if a building gets demolished replaced with a new one, you wouldn't remove the original outline from OSM? In my case, I've begun to do just that, adding a note to alert the 'Bing tracers' that something has changed. But I would eventually

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-23 Thread Dave F.
On 23/08/2015 19:11, Mike N wrote: On 8/23/2015 2:03 PM, Dave F. wrote: Are you saying if a building gets demolished replaced with a new one, you wouldn't remove the original outline from OSM? In my case, I've begun to do just that, adding a note to alert the 'Bing tracers' that something

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO VS OSM

2015-08-23 Thread Aurélien . . . .
Je peux grouper par commune, où puis-je te transmettre ces infos ? Puis-je ajouter une pièce jointe à cette liste ? Je ferai ça pour ce soir ou demain soir au pire des cas. 2015-08-23 13:51 GMT+02:00 adrien carpentier ad.carpent...@gmail.com: Salut! pour info, on a pris le taureau par les

Re: [Talk-at] Seltsame Relationsüberschneidungen

2015-08-23 Thread eest9
Am 21. August 2015 um 09:15 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at: On 20.08.2015 20:17, eest9 wrote: Dank der neuen Rendermethode von Wäldern ist mir heute folgende Situation aufgefallen: Hier überschneiden sich zB die Relationen http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4463260 und

Re: [Talk-at] Grenzimport Wien

2015-08-23 Thread Peter Barth
Hi, Friedrich Volkmann schrieb: Kann bitte jemand diese Änderungen revertieren oder die DWG damit beauftragen? (Frederik, wenn du mitliest...) da hat sich jetzt keiner weiter drum gekümmert oder? Ich hab mal einzelne Changesets angeschaut, die waren noch da. Hat denn mal jemand den Benutzer

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO VS OSM

2015-08-23 Thread Art Penteur
À quelle proportion ce contrôle recouvre-t-il le test-soundex d'osmose ? Les rues de(s) Mésange(s) et autres Chauf(f)our sont très souvent détectées par soundex. Art. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-23 Thread Balaco Baco
Certainly not. But that's an extreme example of what I have read here, what I have seen in pictures and the (also extreme, unnecessary) actions taken with it. -- Balaco On Sun, Aug 23, 2015, at 12:49, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 08/23/2015 02:27 AM, Balaco Baco wrote: I'm sorry. But

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-23 Thread Dave F.
On 22/08/2015 00:57, Jason Remillard wrote: Hi I'd therefor like to propose that abandoned railways be treated like borders. Even if you can't see it along a given stretch there are people who can and they have put a huge amount of effort into that work. Lets respect that and strengthen the

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO VS OSM

2015-08-23 Thread Christian Quest
Le 23/08/2015 11:30, Aurélien a écrit : Bonjour, Je m'intéresse de près à la BANO pour le moment spécifiquement dans le Nord-Pas-De-Calais et à coups de requêtes dans tous les sens et j'ai pu sortir des différences entre les données BANO et les données OSM. As tu regardé la dernière

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-23 Thread moltonel
On 23 August 2015 01:27:54 GMT+01:00, Balaco Baco balacob...@imap.cc wrote: What we need is a database that already has all the data and simply identify when some small elements of it cease to be current. In OSM we do that by deleting the small elements ;) I'm sorry. But this is just a

[Talk-it-trentino] Mappiamo Mozzecane III edizione 2015 – Mapping party OpenStreetMap

2015-08-23 Thread Luca Biondani
Terzo mapping party a Mozzecane! Contribuiamo tutti assieme a mappare Mozzecane con OpenStreetMap http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/45.3082/10.8171. Ci troviamo sabato 12 settembre 2015 alle 9.00 davanti alla biblioteca comunale

Re: [Talk-it] Avvertimento nuova proiezione EPSG su JOSM per ortofoto PCN2006-2012

2015-08-23 Thread Emanuele Stocchero
Il giorno 22/ago/2015 15:11, Leonardo kinetocor...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ciao, oggi provando la nuova versione stabile di JOSM, quando attivo il layer delle ortofoto PCN2006 o 2012, Josm mi avvisa con il seguente messaggio: Il livello PCN 2012 - Italia non supporta la nuova proiezione

[OSM-talk-fr] BANO VS OSM

2015-08-23 Thread Aurélien . . . .
Bonjour, Je m'intéresse de près à la BANO pour le moment spécifiquement dans le Nord-Pas-De-Calais et à coups de requêtes dans tous les sens et j'ai pu sortir des différences entre les données BANO et les données OSM. J'en ai catalogué différents types : 1) BANO : La rue des Mésanges - OSM :

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO VS OSM

2015-08-23 Thread Aurélien . . . .
Non je n'ai pas regardé la dernière analyse, je ne suis pas très à jour avec les outils proposés. Je pense que pour distinguer ce qui est correct ou non d'une source ou de l'autre il faut passer par du cas mais que l'on peut amoindrir l'effort humain en définissant des règles syntaxiques

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-23 Thread moltonel
On 22 August 2015 22:07:20 GMT+01:00, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: BUT OHM has avoided importing all of the existing material. Manually adding all that again is a pointless exercise. What we need is a database that already has all the data Yes (or find a way to constantly merge

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] highway et limites administratives confondues

2015-08-23 Thread Nicolas Dumoulin
Le vendredi 21 août 2015 11:55:08 Francescu GAROBY a écrit : Pour la différenciation entre highways et limites administratives, la tendance ici est à séparer les 2 (personnellement, je trouve ça dommage, mais bon...). Mais du coup, JOSM râle, en effet ! Juste pour pinailler : c'est la tendance

Re: [OSM-talk] List of OSM-based services

2015-08-23 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 23 August 2015, Andrew Hain wrote: As part of an article on the diversity of OSM-based mapping I’m looking to check if the list at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services is up to date, including sites and especially map styles that may not have been noted.

Re: [OSM-talk] List of OSM-based services

2015-08-23 Thread ajt1...@gmail.com
On 23/08/2015 12:31, Andrew Hain wrote: As part of an article on the diversity of OSM-based mapping I’m looking to check if the list at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services is up to date, including sites and especially map styles that may not have been noted. A

[OSM-talk-fr] Editeur de POI en HTML5

2015-08-23 Thread Guilhem Bonnefille
Bonjour, Je rentre d'un séjour à Vernet-les-bains. Classiquement, lors d'un séjour, j'ai toujours l'occasion de compléter OSM. Mais là, je dois reconnaître que la carte était plutôt complète. Du coup, il ne me restait que quelques POI à ajouter. D'où l'objet de ce mail : connaissez-vous un

[OSM-talk] List of OSM-based services

2015-08-23 Thread Andrew Hain
As part of an article on the diversity of OSM-based mapping I’m looking to check if the list at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services is up to date, including sites and especially map styles that may not have been noted. -- Andrew

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/08/15 00:12, Frederik Ramm wrote: Only a lack of people willing to do the work. A lack of people willing to do the work *and* host the style. We'll happily include them if they meet the criteria you mention, but we're not currently set up to serve multiple styles ourselves. We might

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO VS OSM

2015-08-23 Thread adrien carpentier
Salut! pour info, on a pris le taureau par les cornes sur le npdc,nous en discutons sur la liste locale en général : http://listes.openstreetmap.fr/wws/info/local-npdc et bruno a développé un site d'analyses : http://legosm.fr/bano5962/evolution.html pour info, nous avons les 2 plus gros

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] highway et limites administratives confondues

2015-08-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
le clic molette est trop délicat à faire sans provoquer un zoom avant ou arriere et avec ça un déplacement. et on a rerament un quatrième bouton sur la souris. j'aurais préfère la touche alt avec le clic droit pour obtenir ce menu voire même directement le clic droit pour avoir le menu contenant

[talk-au] Question - restricted turning restrictions

2015-08-23 Thread Mark Pulley
Can anyone give a suggestion for how to tag a turning restriction that only applies to long vehicles? The basic tags I understand: restriction = no_left_turn type = restriction I have added this exception from the turn restrictions plugin: except

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-23 Thread John Eldredge
I agree that blue is the logical color for mapping waterways, and should be reserved for that purpose. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. On

Re: [Talk-at] Grenzimport Wien

2015-08-23 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 24.08.2015 01:29, Peter Barth wrote: Jens hat schon in seinem ersten Beitrag auf seinen Changeset-Kommentar hingewiesen und was dann passiert ist. es ist ja nur konsequent, dass sie daraufhin versucht den Fehler zu korrigieren und den Node löscht. Das war aber nicht der eigene Node,

[OSM-ja] 「State of the Map Japan 2015」講演を募集致します。

2015-08-23 Thread ikiya
SotM Japan実行委員のikiyaです。 10月31日、静岡県浜松市で開催されますOpenStreetMap年次国内会議「State of the Map Japan 2015」につきまして講演を募集致します。 是非、この機会にOSMに関する発表を通じて、交流を深めてみてはいかがでしょうか。多くの方のエントリーをお待ちしています。 講演内容、講演枠、エントリー方法は以下の通りとなります。 【 講演内容 】 OpenStreetMapに関わるマッピング活動やコミュニティ活動、技術的な内容の報告や紹介、提案等について講演を募集致します。 【 講演枠 】 講演A  20分間 講演B 

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month!

2015-08-23 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
Much thanks agin Jorieke and the whole Motm team. I have mush pleasure reading these interviews and getting to know a little better one of the active members of our community. Regards, Nicolas Le 2015-08-22 19:53, Jorieke Vyncke a écrit : Hello Belgian mappers, Here you can find the

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO VS OSM

2015-08-23 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
Bonjour, Christian indique que la source d'autorité est la commune. Il y a beaucoup de communes en France. Ne serait-il pas intéressant de regarder les 3 communes dans lesquelles il y a le plus de petites différences et préparer des rencontres personnelles par des membres de OSM qui

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-23 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 23/08/2015, Balaco Baco balacob...@imap.cc wrote: I don't think so. Wrong data happens to Bing Maps, to Google Maps and probably to any other map we can obtain, electronically or in a paper. Maps have dates attached to them - or should have, most of the time. The fact is that: if I browse

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Nettoyer une imprécision propre au cadastre

2015-08-23 Thread Vincent de Château-Thierry
Bonsoir, Le 22/08/2015 19:58, Christian Rogel a écrit : Serait-il problématique de retirer « voie communale » d’office, mais à condition de tenir compte du cas où le nom est légitime, au moins jusqu’à enquête sur le terrain? En effet, des routes intercommunales on, parfois, comme nom

Re: [OSM-talk-be] SOTM 2016 and meetings

2015-08-23 Thread Jo
Hi Nicolas and Christian, It's an endeavour that shouldn't be underestimated, but it will be an interesting one! I will certainly try to be present. Preferably on a Saturday. Evenings could work too, but not for people coming from further away. I guess one of the things we'll need is a

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-23 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 23/08/2015, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 8/23/2015 2:03 PM, Dave F. wrote: Are you saying if a building gets demolished replaced with a new one, you wouldn't remove the original outline from OSM? In my case, I've begun to do just that, adding a note to alert the 'Bing tracers' that

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] guichet

2015-08-23 Thread Florian LAINEZ
J'aime bien la proposition, mais est-ce vraiment assez générique ? Le point d'accès à un service situé dans un polygone n'est peut être pas forcément un guichet ... Le 21 août 2015 19:57, ZIMMY jeanlouis.zimmerm...@laposte.net a écrit : +1 pour la logique de PanierAvide, La sémantique simple

Re: [Talk-at] Grenzimport Wien

2015-08-23 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 23.08.2015 19:19, Peter Barth wrote: Hat denn mal jemand den Benutzer auf seinen Fehler hingewiesen? Changeset mit Diskussion finde ich zumindest keinen, Zu einer Diskussion braucht man mindestens zwei. Jens hat schon in seinem ersten Beitrag auf seinen Changeset-Kommentar hingewiesen und

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-23 Thread Warin
On 24/08/2015 4:24 AM, Dave F. wrote: On 23/08/2015 19:11, Mike N wrote: On 8/23/2015 2:03 PM, Dave F. wrote: Are you saying if a building gets demolished replaced with a new one, you wouldn't remove the original outline from OSM? In my case, I've begun to do just that, adding a note to

[OSM-talk-fr] Catégories réperoire FINESS

2015-08-23 Thread Donat ROBAUX
Bonjour à tous, Désolé si ca concerne peu de monde, mais une nouvelle nomenclature sur les catégories d'établissements ayant trait à la santé (le fameux FINESS) vient de sortir au 24/08/2015. Je l'ai vu par hasard. Je regarderai dans la semaine si il y a de grosses (et d'autres) modif. Je viens

Re: [Talk-at] Grenzimport Wien

2015-08-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Peter Barth wrote: Ob eure CC-BY AT Lizenz ein Problem ist oder nicht, weiß ich allerdings nicht. Je nachdem was für die Attribution verlangt wird, kann sie nämlich durchaus für OSM geeignet sein. CC-BY-Daten der Stadt Wien (wie in diesem Fall) sind OK. Die Lizenz ist hier nicht das Problem,

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-23 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 23/08/2015, mick bare...@tpg.com.au wrote: On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 00:09:43 +0100 moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com wrote: Do people actually do this ? It sounds like a strawman argument to me. I do a fair bit of walking and cycling, and when planing a trip I look at the global topographic

[OSM-talk-be] SOTM 2016 and meetings

2015-08-23 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
Dear OSM-be community, We have engaged in the organization of organization of the 2016 edition of SOTM. So far, a smaller group of people around Ben, have lead the way to transform into reality a possible crazy but interesting idea that I have shared with you. SOTM 2016 will be organized in

Re: [Talk-at] Grenzimport Wien

2015-08-23 Thread Peter Barth
Hi, Friedrich Volkmann schrieb: Jens hat schon in seinem ersten Beitrag auf seinen Changeset-Kommentar hingewiesen und was dann passiert ist. es ist ja nur konsequent, dass sie daraufhin versucht den Fehler zu korrigieren und den Node löscht. Dass sie eventuell weitere Fehler begangen hat,

Re: [talk-au] Unauthorised bike trails in national parks

2015-08-23 Thread forster
Hi all Thanks for the delay while I contacted Parks Vic. Parks Vic have confirmed that Ant Trail is closed to the public for all uses as is the trail at https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/-37.93253/145.30901 stev391 proposed that my edit should be reverted as he says: (1) The track is

Re: [Talk-de] Tagging von Bächen als waterway=ditch

2015-08-23 Thread markus schnalke
[2015-08-21 12:37] Christoph Hormann chris_horm...@gmx.de Ich sehe wenig Nutzen in einer Detaildiskussion zu jedem Sonder- und Grenzfall, den es auf der Welt gibt. Ging es denn nicht eigentlich nur um die angemessene Verwendung von waterway=ditch? Fuer mich stellt sich dort die Frage, ob die

[OSM-talk] Reply-to header

2015-08-23 Thread Balaco Baco
P. S.: this mailing list does not add a Reply-to header to mail messages, as I'm used to. So I initially sent the answer to just one person. This should be changed - may it not confuse the majority of users!? It normally does, not sure what happened here. All messages I received from

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-23 Thread Balaco Baco
Are you saying if a building gets demolished replaced with a new one, you wouldn't remove the original outline from OSM? I'm saying that simply deleting the original outline, leaving nothing in its place is different than putting the *same quality outline* for the newer building that should