Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Quality (was: The point on the OSM Response to the DR Congo Nord Kivu Ebola outbreak)

2018-12-13 Thread Pierre Béland
Yes, Quality should be be integrated at all levels, from Documentation, Editing tools, Projects monitoring particularly in the context of Mapathons to catch problems rapidly and correct. And  yes validation is the last step, the last barrier to catch Quality problems and correct. After the ex

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Candidate's views? Re: Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 13. Dec 2018, at 13:53, Andy Townsend wrote: > > Given that there will be effectively a "new board" after Saturday I think > that it's only fair to let them get their feet under the table first, but > there clearly will be pressure from the community once they have don

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Candidate's views? Re: Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-13 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/12/2018 13:45, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: [...] The decision of the DWG was absolutely correct according to the rules that OSM imposed on itself. I think the board here is opening Pandora's box. It will certainly be interesting to see how all the controversial areas will be judged from

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Quality (was: The point on the OSM Response to the DR Congo Nord Kivu Ebola outbreak)

2018-12-13 Thread Nate Smith
This is a good discussion. Chiming in here to share some additional thoughts and work we’ve been doing on the Tasking Manager this fall. I agree with what people have said. Quality isn’t just a “let’s improve how we validate” problem. This also isn’t only an editor problem — through many of the ma

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Quality (was: The point on the OSM Response to the DR Congo Nord Kivu Ebola outbreak)

2018-12-13 Thread Stephen Penson
To build on Jean- Marc's point, one thing I raised at the HOT Summit and also recently to the London Missing Maps team is the need to tackle the errors at the source. Having validators is vital, but I believe we can improve the initial mapping through a few tweaks in the way new mappers are trai

[OSM-talk] Academic Track at State of the Map 2019 - Call for applications for the Leading Team

2018-12-13 Thread Marco Minghini
Dear colleagues, Following the successful initiation of the *Academic Track* at State of the Map 2018 in Milan [1], this Track will be included again in the program of State of the Map 2019, to be held in Heidelberg on September 21-23, 2019. The main purpose of the Academic Track is to bring toge

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-13 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
"When in doubt, also consider the "on the ground rule": map the world as it can be observed by someone physically there." source: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_We_Map - no further comment - ## Manfred Reiter - mobile - ## please excuse typos and brevity Am Mo., 10. Dez. 2018, 11:58 h

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Candidate's views? Re: Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-13 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Am Di., 11. Dez. 2018 um 11:52 Uhr schrieb Guillaume Rischard < openstreet...@stereo.lu>: > Hi Rory and fellow members, > > I am a candidate in the board election, and have underlined in my > manifesto how important it is that decisions like this are taken > transparently. The detailed reasoning b

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Candidate's views? Re: Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-13 Thread Jaak Laineste
Hi, There are map services (TomTom I believe) which have a parameter, something like "politics" with possible values China, India and Pakistan, and of course google does same for end-users. As far as I can think of more or less every single country has some details what they feel to be mapped d

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 13. Dec 2018, at 11:40, Tomas Straupis wrote: > > > I was never for indiscriminate, automated imports without manual > checks. Accepting documents as source does not necessary mean allowing > such imports. When doing manual checks you can find (and we DO find) > errors

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-13 Thread Tomas Straupis
2018-12-12, tr, 15:47 Andy Townsend rašė: > If you're looking for a project that essentially mirrors "official" data > without actually checking that its valid then OpenStreetMap might not be > the project for you. I was never for indiscriminate, automated imports without manual checks. Acceptin

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 12. Dez. 2018 um 16:36 Uhr schrieb Florian Lohoff : > I know that because i have caused ~100 residents to > get new id cards because they all had a wrong street name in their ID. This would merit a diary entry ;-) Cheers, Martin ___ talk mai