Re: [OSM-talk] "helpful" remote correctional edits (or "please don't correct bank ATMs in the Sahara desert" - was: Re: Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in va

2020-07-19 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
Incredibly enough surfaces also change, no doubt many of our gravel tracks were correct at the time and have now been paved or bound. 19. júlí 2020 kl. 20:33, skrifaði "Martin Koppenhoefer" : > sent from a phone > >> On 19. Jul 2020, at 14:48, Hauke Stieler wrote: >> >> Blind reverts are als

Re: [OSM-talk] "helpful" remote correctional edits (or "please don't correct bank ATMs in the Sahara desert" - was: Re: Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in va

2020-07-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 19. Jul 2020, at 14:48, Hauke Stieler wrote: > > Blind reverts are also pretty bad. In my case, I talked to other people > in our community and only reverted some of the edits, which are very > unplausible (like "grade4" with "surface=paved" and imagery showing a > paved

[OSM-talk] Simple Task Manager: First release of yet another tasking manager

2020-07-19 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi all, since the end of March I'm working on my own tasking manager as an alternative to the HOT tasking manager, the damn project or MapCraft: Simple Task Manager (or STM for short). Feel free to check out the code [0] or the hosted version: https://stm.hauke-stieler.de # Why a new tas

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

2020-07-19 Thread Alan Mackie
On Sat, 18 Jul 2020, 21:45 Mike Thompson, wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 2:23 PM Mark Wagner wrote: > >> >> * Two adjacent sections of track being tagged as "grade 2" and "grade >> 4" not because of any difference in road surface, but because one has >> a line of grass between the ruts

Re: [OSM-talk] "helpful" remote correctional edits (or "please don't correct bank ATMs in the Sahara desert" - was: Re: Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in va

2020-07-19 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi, On 19.07.20 14:02, Andy Townsend wrote: > 1) Please do check that the thing that you are "correcting" is > plausible.  A bank ATM in the middle of the Sahara Desert is not. > > 2) Do check if the thing, if at all unlikely, hasn't been added by a > user who has had previous fantasy mapping re

[OSM-talk] "helpful" remote correctional edits (or "please don't correct bank ATMs in the Sahara desert" - was: Re: Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in variou

2020-07-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/07/2020 12:10, Hauke Stieler wrote: Those bad armchair-tags, which are mostly wrong, are as good as random values [0]: Those tags are completely useless. Removing those obviously wrong tags is a good idea IMHO. Hello, I'm writing this here because although it's not the same issue as "re

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

2020-07-19 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi, I like your idea. Just a week ago, the user Gassol also edited tracks in Hamburg, Germany, and he used bad, old and blurry imagery (Bing). A lot of his edited tracks aren't even visible there, because of trees or just bad image quality. I talked to him and he isn't a local person, just makes

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #521 2020-07-07-2020-07-13

2020-07-19 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 521, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/13416/ Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log i

[OSM-talk] e: Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

2020-07-19 Thread Volker Schmidt
I often add tracks from satellite imagery, and also do occasionally add missing tracktype tagging from that imagery. The tricky bit is to understand that there are no physical barriers which are not visible on the imagery, but the tracktype, surface and smoothness are often easy to guess correctly

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

2020-07-19 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Joseph, Am 18/07/2020 um 21.51 schrieb Joseph Eisenberg: > Do you have evidence that most of the surface tags added by this user are > unreliable? Review results by westnordost (https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=795002#p795002, translated with DeepL): > Here are some bad exampl