Re: [OSM-talk] Editing wiki asks for confirmation code?

2020-07-24 Thread Skyler Hawthorne
I tried to post a screenshot, but the mailing list has a max size of 40 KB, which seems very small. I am on a OnePlus 7T with OxygenOS 10.0.11.HD65AA. I've tried a couple of pages by clicking the pencil button, making my changes, and then hitting the Save button. This is when the text box

[OSM-talk] Editing wiki asks for confirmation code?

2020-07-24 Thread Skyler Hawthorne
Hi, I'm posting here because I'm not sure where would be more appropriate. When I try to edit a wiki page, after I get to the preview page and enter a description of the change, a text box pops up that just says "confirmation code". I don't know if I'm supposed to get an email with a code or

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] TagHelp : les artisans et entreprises.

2020-07-24 Thread Philippe Verdy
consulting semble tiré par les cheveux, même si c'est une société privée, elle ne fait pas de consulting en terme de gestion de projet, même si elle apporte une expertise et un conseil, et remet un avis qui peut ensuite motiver une demande d'autorisation à poursuivre des travaux, ou la façon de

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

2020-07-24 Thread Tomas Straupis
2020-07-25, št, 00:58 john whelan rašė: > If reliability and security are critical then you have to start balancing > things out. This is a lie or FUD. Microsofts security/reliability level was a joke 20-30 years ago, it got somehow better since then but security is nowhere close and the tools

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

2020-07-24 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
Nothing beats PostGIS at the moment and there is a large migration of GIS databases going on in general where the free and free ( code and license) aspects of Postgre are major factors as well. In my job I am running and coding for Postgre, MySQL and MSSQL servers and have previously over the

Re: [Talk-GB] Using OSM as a base for my own fictional map?

2020-07-24 Thread Martin Wynne
On 25/07/2020 00:36, David Woolley wrote: Also, generating a PDF server side is a relatively expensive, so don't expect to welcomed if you start doing this on the fly. Hi David, Can you clarify what you mean by "on the fly"? I anticipate clicking the PDF download button, and then working

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

2020-07-24 Thread James
POSTGRESQL with Gis extension has better performance than SQL Server indexing coordinates/type(node, way, polygon, relation) as columns. On Fri., Jul. 24, 2020, 7:01 p.m. John Whelan, wrote: > Thank you Hartmut, > > my expertise is not in GIS databases so this is helpful to know. My >

Re: [Talk-GB] Using OSM as a base for my own fictional map?

2020-07-24 Thread David Woolley
On 24/07/2020 23:54, Martin Wynne wrote: The downloaded PDF files are vector files which can be zoomed to any level without pixelating, and can have the internal records modified as required. The only vector files where you can reliably detect things like railways are those produced by the

Re: [talk-cz] Spolek OSM ČR z.s. je Local Chapter Nadace OSM

2020-07-24 Thread Jan Macura
Ahoj, aktualizoval jsem https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters a částečně i https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:spolek_OSMCZ . Když to někdo dotáhne, nebudu se zlobit. Noticka na web (https://openstreetmap.cz/spolek) a na socky by taky nebyla špatná. H. On Thu, 23 Jul

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

2020-07-24 Thread John Whelan
Thank you Hartmut, my expertise is not in GIS databases so this is helpful to know.  My experience is much more to do with straight SQL databases doing none GIS work on a variety of platforms. Cheerio John Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote on 2020-07-24 18:49: On 25.07.20 00:16, Alexandre Oliveira

Re: [Talk-GB] Using OSM as a base for my own fictional map?

2020-07-24 Thread Martin Wynne
On 24/07/2020 23:18, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote: "OpenStreetMap data is free for everyone to use. Our tile servers are not." See https://operations.osmfoundation.org/policies/tiles/ for more "In particular, downloading an area of over 250 tiles at zoom level 13 or higher for offline or

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

2020-07-24 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
On 25.07.20 00:16, Alexandre Oliveira wrote: Having said that the main advantage of SQL is it is a standard so you should be able to connect practically anything to it. That's not entirely true. SQL is a language but every database implements its own dialect, i.e., some query keywords

Re: [Talk-GB] Using OSM as a base for my own fictional map?

2020-07-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
Jul 25, 2020, 00:06 by mar...@templot.com: > I need to work out how to do the attribution and any copyright issues. I can > easily add the usual © OpenStreetMap Contributors caption on the corner of > each tile. But is it permitted to modify and re-use the standard OSM map > image in this

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

2020-07-24 Thread Alexandre Oliveira
I think it's stupid to even think about switching to MSSQL. OSM is free and open data built on top of free and open source technologies. Switching to MSSQL would be a dumb move, and as mentioned before, it would require the refactor of several tools built to work with PostgreSQL, which is pretty

Re: [Talk-GB] Using OSM as a base for my own fictional map?

2020-07-24 Thread Martin Wynne
Many thanks for the suggestions and links. A lot to take in there. Zooming the tiles far enough to see the track detail is essential, so I'm wondering if I'm looking at doing this the wrong way. It's not intended that the tiles would be viewed on a slippy map in a web browser. I'm writing a

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

2020-07-24 Thread john whelan
You need to define the requirements and if having open source software is a top priority that's fine. If reliability and security are critical then you have to start balancing things out. In general UNIX based solutions do not have the same tools available in Windows but with a skilled

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

2020-07-24 Thread Yves
But face it, philosophy is now also part of the discussion. And that's important. Yves Le 24 juillet 2020 20:50:22 GMT+02:00, john whelan a écrit : >If the database was smaller and less infrastructure was reliant on it >working I would agree with you that philosophically open source software

[Talk-es] Edit war about names in Basque speaking regions

2020-07-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, one user has changed several street names from the Spanish form to a combined "Basque / Spanish" form. This has angered another user and there have been fights about how these streets should be named. I have blocked the user "Hartz Beltza" in https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3807

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

2020-07-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Note: I am not a sysadmin. But overall I am missing any decent reasons to make such move. Maybe there is some reason for that, but nothing from what you presented appears to be a good reason. Frankly, if company had major problem with production severs using default passwords, uncontrolled

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

2020-07-24 Thread Tomas Straupis
2020-07-24, pn, 21:14 john whelan rašė: > I think we either run the largest PostgreSQL database there is or it is close > to it. Why do you think so? To my knowledge there are mch larger PostgreSQL databases going into petabytes. Can you be more specific as to what exactly was better in

[Talk-us] Fall Virtual Event Poll

2020-07-24 Thread Maggie Cawley
OSM US is planning a fall virtual event and we'd love your feedback! Please take a minute to complete this poll https://osmus.wufoo.com/forms/osm-us-virtual-event-poll/ Interested in sponsoring or joining the planning committee? Reach out. Note that this event will NOT replace SOTMUS! *Maggie

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

2020-07-24 Thread john whelan
If the database was smaller and less infrastructure was reliant on it working I would agree with you that philosophically open source software makes a lot of sense. However your argument is philosophical rather than logical. Note I'm merely requesting that the idea be examined. I am not saying

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

2020-07-24 Thread Yves
You're probably have some very good points when it comes to database management, but running an open map on open source software makes a lot of sense. Yves Le 24 juillet 2020 20:11:46 GMT+02:00, john whelan a écrit : >All this talk about databases and servers and sysadmins makes me wonder

[OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

2020-07-24 Thread john whelan
All this talk about databases and servers and sysadmins makes me wonder if we should reconsider our choice of operating systems and databases. At one time in the past I ran a Database support group that covered Sybase, Oracle, Microsoft SQL server, ingres and half a dozen other database systems.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment qualifier un Chaussidou

2020-07-24 Thread Nicolas Dumoulin
Ok, merci pour la réponse. J'avais parcouru la page mais manqué cette mention. Bon tant pis pour le tag spécifique, la combinaison est peut-être en effet suffisamment explicite. Bon weekend Nicolas Le 23 juillet 2020 17:46:35 GMT+02:00, PanierAvide a écrit : >Bonjour, > >Voir ici, le cas L3 :

Re: [Talk-GB] Using OSM as a base for my own fictional map?

2020-07-24 Thread Chris Hill
On 24/07/2020 16:59, Martin Wynne wrote: I'm looking for some pointers. I have a dedicated server (located in Ohio, I'm in UK) with full controls. I'm fairly confident with web sites and javascript (and geometry), but I'm entirely new to online mapping (apart from editing OSM in the iD

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed changes in rendering of diplomatic offices

2020-07-24 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 24 July 2020, Daniel Koc4� wrote: > > My concern is that such change would invite automated mass edits, > because half of these objects still carry the old tag, which is a lot > for such common and well known feature IMO: Small clarification here: There are currently 6152 features with

Re: [Talk-es] Farmacias de guardia

2020-07-24 Thread Nicolás Vieites Sueiro
Buenas tardes, Desconozco si tenemos permiso para eso que pretendes hacer, no me suena ninguna autorización por parte de ningún colegio oficial. ¿Estás seguro de que esos datos podemos utilizarlos (es decir, que tenemos permiso o que son completamente abiertos)? Get Outlook for

[OSM-talk] Proposed changes in rendering of diplomatic offices

2020-07-24 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, There is a proposition to change rendering of diplomatic offices on OSM Carto style (which is used for generating default map layer on OSM.org). On the one hand it introduces flag symbols for a new tagging, but on the other it would immediately stop rendering old, deprecated tag

[Talk-es] Farmacias de guardia

2020-07-24 Thread Angel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hola. Estoy intentando completar las farmacias de la población donde vivo: teléfono, horarios, email cuando lo tienen, insertando farmacias que no están, todo con la lista de farmacias del colegio oficial. Cuando hago consultas, puedo ver las que

Re: [Talk-GB] Using OSM as a base for my own fictional map?

2020-07-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Ika-chan!/Fantasy_maps_with_OSM_software looks useful despite disclaimer on top finds other usefully looking materials In general, main technical issues are exactly the same as with rendering unmodified OSM data I would not worry too much about people

[Talk-es] Espacios municipales

2020-07-24 Thread Angel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hola. He visto que la junta de distrito donde vivo está todavía en su anterior ubicación. Tengo más o menos claro como etiquetarla en la ubicación vigente. Pero en la anterior ubicación sigue existiendo un local municipal, polivalente se llama,

[Talk-GB] Using OSM as a base for my own fictional map?

2020-07-24 Thread Martin Wynne
I'm looking for some pointers. I have a dedicated server (located in Ohio, I'm in UK) with full controls. I'm fairly confident with web sites and javascript (and geometry), but I'm entirely new to online mapping (apart from editing OSM in the iD editor). What I want to do is use OSM as a

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Segmentation des maisons

2020-07-24 Thread Philippe Verdy
Quand j'en vois, je réunit les polygones découpés arbitrairement (souvent en diagonale créant des segments qui ne correspondent à rien en réalité. Oui c'est sans doute un artefact de l'ancien découpage cadastral (avant que les parcelles soient réunies et redécoupées différemment par un lotisseur,

Re: [Talk-GB] Surveying rural buildings

2020-07-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/07/2020 14:41, Mark Goodge wrote: On 24/07/2020 13:20, Martin Wynne wrote: Most of them go back to OS Explorer when they find UK public rights of way are not shown in different colours on the OSM standard map. This is one of the reasons why it would be nice to have a UK-specific

Re: [Talk-GB] Surveying rural buildings

2020-07-24 Thread Andy G Wood
On Friday, 24 July 2020 14:41:08 BST Mark Goodge wrote: > On 24/07/2020 13:20, Martin Wynne wrote: > > > but most people I know aren't aware of OSM. > > > > I've been trying to persuade country-walking groups to use OSM. There is > > a lot of useful stuff there not shown on OS Explorer --

Re: [Talk-GB] Surveying rural buildings

2020-07-24 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Re a "UK walking style" there is Freemap, my own (long-standing) project, which has gone through a number of ups and downs (mostly due to hosting difficulties and lack of time to work on it) but has had a number of style improvements this year due to having more time than expected to work on

Re: [Talk-GB] Surveying rural buildings

2020-07-24 Thread Mark Goodge
On 24/07/2020 13:20, Martin Wynne wrote:  > but most people I know aren't aware of OSM. I've been trying to persuade country-walking groups to use OSM. There is a lot of useful stuff there not shown on OS Explorer -- stiles, kissing gates, benches, bus stops, all pubs, cafes, etc. It's a

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] sur-spécification ?

2020-07-24 Thread osm . sanspourriel
Le 22/07/2020 à 16:15, Philippe Verdy - ver...@gmail.com a écrit : Le mer. 22 juil. 2020 à 11:32, Christian Quest mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr>> a écrit : Le 22/07/2020 à 00:12, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : > Je vois des

Re: [Talk-GB] Surveying rural buildings

2020-07-24 Thread Martin Wynne
> but most people I know aren't aware of OSM. I've been trying to persuade country-walking groups to use OSM. There is a lot of useful stuff there not shown on OS Explorer -- stiles, kissing gates, benches, bus stops, all pubs, cafes, etc. It's a lot more up-to-date, and if they find

Re: [Talk-GB] Surveying rural buildings

2020-07-24 Thread Jon Pennycook
Traveline, a public transport website, use OSM for both presenting a map and for routing, eg http://www.travelinesw.com/ They get confused by bus-only roads - access=no/motor_vehicle=no combined with bus=yes/designated on a road leads to very strange routing (or did the last time I tried to plan

Re: [Talk-GB] Surveying rural buildings

2020-07-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
Jul 24, 2020, 12:46 by r...@hubris.org.uk: > On 23/07/2020 10:55, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote: > >> >> >> >> Jul 23, 2020, 11:49 by for...@david-woolley.me.uk: >> >> On 23/07/2020 10:12, Nick wrote: >> >> Do we actually know what the general public use OSM for? >> >> >> My

Re: [Talk-GB] Surveying rural buildings

2020-07-24 Thread Robert Skedgell
On 23/07/2020 10:55, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote: > > > > Jul 23, 2020, 11:49 by for...@david-woolley.me.uk: > > On 23/07/2020 10:12, Nick wrote: > > Do we actually know what the general public use OSM for? > > > My impression is that the target for a lot of the

Re: [Talk-GB] Surveying rural buildings

2020-07-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
Jul 24, 2020, 11:38 by n...@foresters.org: > > My thanks to Mateusz and Dave for their comments, which I would like to > try to summarise as I see it: > > the purpose of OSM mapping in the UK of rural buildings isprimarily > to provide a general location of properties i.e.

Re: [Talk-GB] Surveying rural buildings

2020-07-24 Thread Nick
My thanks to Mateusz and Dave for their comments, which I would like to try to summarise as I see it: * the purpose of OSM mapping in the UK of rural buildings is primarily to provide a general location of properties i.e. accuracy and precision are unnecessary. * 'armchair' mapping