Re: [OSM-talk] FCC public documents license and submarine cables mapping

2019-04-14 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
omfortable taking the "risk" myself. On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 10:03 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 14. Apr 2019, at 09:47, Kathleen Lu via talk > wrote: > > > > My opinion as a copyright lawyer is that there is not

Re: [OSM-talk] FCC public documents license and submarine cables mapping

2019-04-14 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
My opinion as a copyright lawyer is that there is nothing copyrightable in the single line that consists of the proposed route, under US law. Of course others are free to disagree. On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 9:36 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > de minimis is applicable in cases where copyrighted

Re: [OSM-talk] FCC public documents license and submarine cables mapping

2019-04-13 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
The linked document was filed by GN's attorneys, submitted to the FCC, not authored by the FCC. That said, the level of detail on the map is so small that I personally would deem any copying de minimus. On Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 11:30 PM Clifford Snow wrote: > > François, > The US FCC should be

Re: [OSM-talk] Your thoughts on osm.org

2019-03-12 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
> Imagine the openstreetmap.org home page, but without the map. > > I assume there would be a map, just that it would be a click away, right? > > Or maybe a smaller map, with context explaining OSM and how to get involved above and below the map, and an invitation to "explore the map" by clicking

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Usage of OSM URLs in combination with proprietary set of URLs

2019-02-28 Thread Kathleen Lu via legal-talk
Hello Gian and Sandro, IMO, from an ODbL it is definitely okay or you to extract URLs and crawl them, and publish the crawled data (though you'd need to attribute OSM for the URLs). But if you are combining OSM URLs with proprietary URLs, and then publishing both, then there's the question of

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-12 Thread Kathleen Lu
I would not be surprised if this was more of a rural/urban divide than a country divide. I cannot imagine that I could put a name on my house and then address a letter to that new name and city and ever expect it to get there. (I have a hard time imagining this would work in Berlin or London

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-10-08 Thread Kathleen Lu
Open Government License or ODbL? Best, Kathleen On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 2:33 AM Maurizio Napolitano wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 7:34 PM Kathleen Lu > wrote: > > > > WOF aside, we can put it on our agenda to discuss whether the > CDLA-permissive license is c

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Query on Government Open Data License - India (GODL)

2018-08-24 Thread Kathleen Lu
Hi Naveen, LWG can add GODL-India to our agenda to review for compatibility. Note that in general, if a source is not compatible, there is always the option to ask for a waiver of the incompatible clause instead of release under ODbL or another compatible license. Thanks, Kathleen On Fri, Aug 24,

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-22 Thread Kathleen Lu
Ah, but wouldn't the alternative be for OSM to be under the LF umbrella/decrees, and we couldn't have that, you and I would be out of a job, Simon ;) On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 6:08 PM Simon Poole wrote: > WOF as a OSM compeitor. > > Am 22.08.2018 um 20:06 schrieb Kathleen Lu: > &g

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-22 Thread Kathleen Lu
> > PS: long diatribe on why on earth the linux foundation is supporting an > > OSM competitor not included. > > mmm... this is not good. > Do you know the reasons? > Simon - did you mean an OSM competitor or an ODbL competitor? (Best I know from various rumors is that various big companies

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-22 Thread Kathleen Lu
WOF aside, we can put it on our agenda to discuss whether the CDLA-permissive license is compatible with ODbL (note that there is also a CDLA-sharealike, which is not compatible). I've started to see it mentioned in other circles as well. -Kathleen On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:19 PM Simon Poole

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License clarification

2018-06-07 Thread Kathleen Lu
/18 00:44, Kathleen Lu wrote: > > The way I understand the use, the OSM data is used to identify areas > > that are to be discarded. Data in those areas are discarded. Thus, the > > OSM data is not kept either, and no OSM data in the final dataset. Thus, > > there is no der

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License clarification

2018-06-06 Thread Kathleen Lu
The way I understand the use, the OSM data is used to identify areas that are to be discarded. Data in those areas are discarded. Thus, the OSM data is not kept either, and no OSM data in the final dataset. Thus, there is no derivative database containing OSM data. On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:36 PM

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License clarification

2018-06-06 Thread Kathleen Lu
Hi Andy, In my opinion, your suggested attribution is sufficient. (Others are free to weigh in.) Best, Kathleen On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:46 AM Andrew Pon wrote: > Hello, > I am an employee with 3vGeomatics and we are interested in using open > street maps to help process our data, but were

Re: [OSM-talk] Open sourcing of POI pictures for OSM App/STAPPZ - Feedback and ideas wanted

2018-05-16 Thread Kathleen Lu
need the community and partners who share common goals to get > this successfully going. So all ideas in this direction are welcome, too. > > Best > > Tim > > > > *Von:* Kathleen Lu <kathleen...@mapbox.com> > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 00:25 > *An:*

Re: [OSM-talk] Open sourcing of POI pictures for OSM App/STAPPZ - Feedback and ideas wanted

2018-05-15 Thread Kathleen Lu
Hi Tim, Your app and what you hope to do with it both sound interesting. I hope you are successful. Here's some more information on the open licensing front to consider: - In order to have the legal rights necessary to "open" the material your users contributed, you would likely needed to have

Re: [OSM-talk] How INSPIRE data are sold in your countries

2018-05-02 Thread Kathleen Lu
Hi, Openaddress.io lists a lot of open address data sources by country. A lot of it is CC-BY or ODbL or similar licenses (not all of it compatible with OSM), though you have to look at each individual location to see what it is specifically. For example:

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-25 Thread Kathleen Lu
> I'm not sure if there is anywhere that would be: (5) 3 options male, > female & unisex (unisex=yes male=yes female=yes) > What about something I see fairly often at airports? A large women's restroom, a large men's restroom, and a single-stall "family" restroom?

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-24 Thread Kathleen Lu
I think the most likely application may be the other way around, where transgender individuals concerned about harassment may purposefully seek out restrooms that are designated unisex in order to reduce the chances of encountering someone who might challenge whether they are using the "correct"

Re: [OSM-talk] External contact channels and GDPR

2018-04-16 Thread Kathleen Lu
Hi Andrew, It's not clear to me why GDPR would make it unacceptable in general to ask someone to discuss something, whether a controversial edit or not, in one forum or another, OSMF or not. What would be the concern? -Kathleen On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 9:18 PM Andrew Hain

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Interesting use case of combining OSM with proprietary data

2018-01-12 Thread Kathleen Lu
> > My argument is about the geometry information. The friction map > combines road geometries from OSM and Google road geometry information. > I see no way it can be argued that this combination of road geometry > data which is rendered into the friction map is a collective database. > None of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Interesting use case of combining OSM with proprietary data

2018-01-12 Thread Kathleen Lu
They are using OSM road data and Google road data to generate what they > call a "friction surface" which is essentially a raster map indicating > how fast you can move at every point of the map - faster on roads, > slower elsewhere depending on relief and landcover. This friction map > you can

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Interesting use case of combining OSM with proprietary data

2018-01-11 Thread Kathleen Lu
Hi Christoph, What is done here is combining road information (and some other data) > from OSM and proprietary data sources (Google) into a raster map (made > available as 'friction surface' under the first link above) and doing > further processing, analysis and map rendering based on that and >

Re: [OSM-talk] Publishing bot code. GPL or AGPL?

2017-10-17 Thread Kathleen Lu
Hi Safwat, I thought about your hypothetical, and if someone was using a personally modified bot for personal use, the AGPL does not impose different conditions than GPL ("if you modify the Program, your modified version must prominently offer all users interacting with it remotely..." doesn't

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 41

2017-09-21 Thread Kathleen Lu
> > Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 20:55:40 +0200 > From: PanierAvide > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] WhatOSM, a guide for contribution tools > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8";

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

2017-09-19 Thread Kathleen Lu
If I were you, I would put the code into GitHub. It may seem like overkill, but it will make it much easier for others to find your scripts. It's free and there is a setting to generate a license file. The wiki is under a CC-SA license, which is not a good match for code. You could explicitly

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

2017-09-19 Thread Kathleen Lu
If I were you, I would put the code into GitHub. It may seem like overkill, but it will make it much easier for others to find your scripts. It's free and there is a setting to generate a license file. The wiki is under a CC-SA license, which is not a good match for code. You could explicitly

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 18

2017-09-17 Thread Kathleen Lu
>From a trademark perspective, osm is the same as OSM. But I really like WOQ(s), it's clever and easy to say. - Kathleen On Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 5:13 AM wrote: > Send talk mailing list submissions to > talk@openstreetmap.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OpenLitterMap Terms and Conditions, Privacy

2017-06-09 Thread Kathleen Lu
Hi Seán, I support the admirable goal of your map. Have you considered a CC0 license for the data you've collected? - https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ Best, Kathleen On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 5:14 AM Seán Lynch wrote: > Dear all, > > Pretty loaded email

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Imagery CC-BY-NC 4.0 + OSM Specific allowance

2017-04-25 Thread Kathleen Lu
ers > Blake > > > > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch> wrote: > > Sorry this took so long, I've added suggested wording here > > > https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Waiver_and_Permission_Templates > > > > Than

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Taiwan Open Government Data License

2017-04-25 Thread Kathleen Lu
Hi Dan, The English version, at least, appears less restrictive than CC BY 4.0, and closer to the Canada Open Government License. The license is not specific as to the type of attribution required. The conservative route, is, as Frederik said, to ask the agency if attribution on the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence compatibility Approval Request: Open Data Licence for the Sunshine Coast Regional District (B.C., Canada)

2017-03-10 Thread Kathleen Lu
Hi Brent, To get an opinion from the LWG, you should email le...@osmfoundation.org. They recently opined on the Ottawa version of OGL Canada. The minutes for that are here: https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes#Licensing_Working_Group -Kathleen On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 7:04

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