Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 31.07.2015 um 07:41 schrieb Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: It is more than sufficient for a time calculation to use the maximum speed, multiplied by some factor (smaller than 1), or even a fixed speed per road class. Sometimes it also depends on the region and the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-31 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-07-31 09:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 31.07.2015 um 07:41 schrieb Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: It is more than sufficient for a time calculation to use the maximum speed, multiplied by some factor (smaller than 1), or even a fixed speed per road class.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-30 Thread Greg Troxel
James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com writes: I've been normally mapping slip lanes as '_link' highways at intersections since the beginning. However, as most fellow US mappers know, they almost never have 'speed limits' posted for them, and that seems to help cause problems in some routing

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-07-30 14:52, Greg Troxel wrote: If there were to be a penalty (distinct from a time/distance estimate), it should perhaps be for getting off a major road and getting back on. But, one could argue that this would be kludgy, and if one wanted that, the real issue would be that the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-30 Thread Richard
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 09:24:12PM +0200, Colin Smale wrote: I assume you are talking about typical speeds, and not a practical maximum. A max speed will almost never be achieved, by definition actually as the vehicle speeds will have a certain distribution. The highest recorded speed will

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-30 Thread Richard
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 08:52:57AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: The issue of on-ramps/off-ramps tagged as *_link has been a particular discussion focus. The notion you expressed that these don't have actual posted limits, just sometimes yellow signs is indeed shared by most in the discussions.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-30 Thread Colin Smale
I assume you are talking about typical speeds, and not a practical maximum. A max speed will almost never be achieved, by definition actually as the vehicle speeds will have a certain distribution. The highest recorded speed will be the de facto practical maximum, assuming the driver survived.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-30 Thread Maarten Deen
It is more than sufficient for a time calculation to use the maximum speed, multiplied by some factor (smaller than 1), or even a fixed speed per road class. My car navigation has this (there are three speeds I can set) and usually the time is correct within a few minutes. Much better is

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-30 Thread Richard
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 08:00:55PM +0200, Colin Smale wrote: Practical maxspeed is useless as well. A straight wide road may be capable of hosting land speed records, but traffic density is likely to be a far more important factor. yes, and this is what practical maxspeed is good for. Not

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-30 Thread Richard
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 08:52:57AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: The issue of on-ramps/off-ramps tagged as *_link has been a particular discussion focus. The notion you expressed that these don't have actual posted limits, just sometimes yellow signs is indeed shared by most in the discussions.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-30 Thread Colin Smale
Practical maxspeed is useless as well. A straight wide road may be capable of hosting land speed records, but traffic density is likely to be a far more important factor. On 30 July 2015 19:56:41 CEST, Richard ricoz@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 08:52:57AM -0400, Greg Troxel

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-27 Thread Mike Thompson
In reality there is only one set of stop lights there, correct? In other words, if one were headed south on McKnight Road turning east on Seibert, one would not have to stop (assuming red lights) three different times. 1) A routing engine should have some heuristics to interpret the three (in