Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-04 Thread Konrad Skeri
Did you read all I wrote? What do you think I mean with If we want to specify the type you are of course welcome to do that, e.g. bridge=viaduct or electrified=contact_line and These are only examples where yes|no could be used. Other descriptive values are still valid, e.g. bridge=viaduct or

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread Konrad Skeri
Time to end this debate http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boolean_values regards Konrad ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/10/2009, at 5:02 PM, Konrad Skeri wrote: Time to end this debate http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boolean_values How precisely is that going to end the debate? a) Voting isn't the way to do this. It either needs consensus or a dictator. b) Lots of people don't care

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/10/2009, at 5:02 PM, Konrad Skeri wrote: Time to end this debate http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boolean_values Oh, and this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/VotingOnTheWikiIsStupid ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread Konrad Skeri
How precisely is that going to end the debate? a) Voting isn't the way to do this. It either needs consensus or a dictator. Consensus will never happen and we don't have a dictator, which makes voting the option left. b) Lots of people don't care about some stupid vote on the wiki There

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: On 03/10/2009, at 5:02 PM, Konrad Skeri wrote: Time to end this debate http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boolean_values Oh, and this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/VotingOnTheWikiIsStupid Not that I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/10/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/10/3 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: On 03/10/2009, at 5:02 PM, Konrad Skeri wrote: Time to end this debate http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boolean_values Oh, and this:

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com: Actually more important question - why people which love mapping (and I guess we all do, otherwise we wouldn't be here), are discussing such simple things as BOOLEAN values in a midday of the Saturday? (ok, for others it is probably very very early

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/10/2009, at 5:54 PM, Konrad Skeri wrote: Consensus will never happen and we don't have a dictator, which makes voting the option left. I actually agree that we just need to pick one, and since yes seems to be the most commonly used one, that should be it. However, I just don't see how

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread Lester Caine
Konrad Skeri wrote: Time to end this debate http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boolean_values http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/boolean_values -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread Tobias Knerr
James Livingston wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boolean_values How precisely is that going to end the debate? a) Voting isn't the way to do this. It either needs consensus or a dictator. It will probably demonstrate that there already *is* a consensus to use

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread Dave F.
John Smith wrote: The third is generally the best option in practise most of the time, it should comprise of no more than 10 people, preferably 5 since the more people involved the less people are going to come to a consensus. In my experience it's always better to have an odd number off

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: John Smith wrote: The third is generally the best option in practise most of the time, it should comprise of no more than 10 people, preferably 5 since the more people involved the less people are going to come to a consensus. In my experience it's

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread Dave F.
James Livingston wrote: b) Lots of people don't care about some stupid vote on the wiki How do you know that? Did you have a vote on it? Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/10/3 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: James Livingston wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boolean_values How precisely is that going to end the debate? a) Voting isn't the way to do this. It either needs consensus or a dictator. It will probably demonstrate

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread Konrad Skeri
Sorry, I apparently was not clear enough there. I've corrected it on the wiki. I meant to decide what values to use when boolean values are intended. The examples given were not intended as examples when only boolean values are allowed. Instead of bridge=jomenvisst we should use bridge=yes, and

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread Matija Nalis
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 09:02:07 +0200, Konrad Skeri kon...@skeri.com wrote: Time to end this debate http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boolean_values I do not think that jumping over Draft and Proposed stages directly to Voting stage for a Proposal is in accordance with

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread Liz
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009, John Smith wrote: 2009/10/3 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: John Smith wrote: The third is generally the best option in practise most of the time, it should comprise of no more than 10 people, preferably 5 since the more people involved the less people are going to

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 7:45 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote: The problem isn't tied to a particular mechanism, it's a social problem where we currently don't have any form if power structure, This isn't a problem in itself. and the one mechanism we have for choosing stuff (voting

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread John Smith
2009/10/4 Konrad Skeri kon...@skeri.com: boolean values are allowed. Instead of bridge=jomenvisst we should use bridge=yes, and instead of electrified=naltaseotroligt we should use Bridge isn't listed as boolean only, you can also have bridge=viaduct which I've used a few times. Other values