Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > Perhaps it's also a misunderstanding from my part that the wiki "Map > Features" is the international wiki page but, in fact, is the UK map > features page. No, that is a misunderstanding also. The Map Features page is where *all* widely used tags get documented (plus a few others). If you

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-22 Thread Pieren
Thanks for all replies. After a parallel discussion in the french ML, I would say that we will probably not use it as it sounds too much UK specific. Perhaps it's also a misunderstanding from my part that the wiki "Map Features" is the international wiki page but, in fact, is the UK map features pa

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-22 Thread matthew-osm
Hi, On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 06:13:39PM +0100, David Earl wrote: > They are universally rural. They are tracks, yes, but formally public > whereas a track will typically be associated with a farm ore similar. Mostly rural, but not all. There are two in Loughborough that I am aware of - one "Cros

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-21 Thread Bruce Cowan
On Sat, 2008-07-19 at 01:48 +0100, 80n wrote: > In the case of the OSM definition of highway=byway, it corresponds > exactly to the UK definition of a byway (or more precisely Byway Open > to All Traffic). More technically, it's an English and Welsh thing. AFAIK, Scotland doesn't have these (we

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Nick Whitelegg wrote: >Sent: 21 July 2008 10:29 AM >To: Andy Street >Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ? > >>What exactly are we trying to achieve with highway=byway? I can think of >>two possible uses but both seem to have unresolved issu

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg
>What exactly are we trying to achieve with highway=byway? I can think of >two possible uses but both seem to have unresolved issues. >The first is simply to record that a particular way exists and has >certain access rights. In this instance I don't see highway=byway being >any different to highw

[OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-21 Thread elvin ibbotson
From: Pieren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 18 July 2008 22:14:32 BDT To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] path or byway ? Dear talk, Could some native english speaker explain the difference between "highway=path" and "highway=byway" recently introduced

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-19 Thread Andy Street
On Sat, 2008-07-19 at 16:35 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > >What is the limit between "highway=byway" and "highway=track" ? > > Byway is an official byway (a certain class of right of way in the UK), > or, if motorcar=no added, a restricted byway. > A "highway=track" is any other type of track -

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-19 Thread David Earl
There's the informal word byway as in the English phrase "highways and byways" which you would indeed say is a minor road as per wikipedia, but there are also formal "byways". In many parts of England these are actually signposted with a finger post which simply says "Byway" or "Public byway".

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-19 Thread Nick Whitelegg
>What is the limit between "highway=byway" and "highway=track" ? Byway is an official byway (a certain class of right of way in the UK), or, if motorcar=no added, a restricted byway. A "highway=track" is any other type of track - you can use the foot/horse/bicycle tags to describe precisely what

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-19 Thread Richard Bullock
> > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:54:51 -0500 > From: Alex Mauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ? > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=f

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-19 Thread Pieren
I forgot the discussion in December (which was more about voting or not voting ;-). It's clear when I read the following description from Nick W. [1]: - "Byway (highway=byway) is an unsurfaced track" oops. "highway=unsurfaced" has been removed from Map Features. It has been replaced by "highway=tr

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-18 Thread 80n
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Alex Mauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frederik Ramm wrote: > >> For one, byway was never proposed or described or otherwise documented, > >> but instead just plopped into map features. > > > > Just like them darn motorways... nobody ever put them to vote, it's >

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-18 Thread Alex Mauer
Frederik Ramm wrote: >> For one, byway was never proposed or described or otherwise documented, >> but instead just plopped into map features. > > Just like them darn motorways... nobody ever put them to vote, it's > a shame ;-) Except that motorways were there on the very first rev (ok, second) o

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > > Could some native english speaker explain the difference between > > "highway=path" and "highway=byway" recently introduced in map features ? > For one, byway was never proposed or described or otherwise documented, > but instead just plopped into map features. Just like them darn mo

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-18 Thread Alex Mauer
Pieren wrote: > Dear talk, > > Could some native english speaker explain the difference between > "highway=path" and "highway=byway" recently introduced in map features ? For one, byway was never proposed or described or otherwise documented, but instead just plopped into map features. So I gues

[OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-18 Thread Pieren
Dear talk, Could some native english speaker explain the difference between "highway=path" and "highway=byway" recently introduced in map features ? The description is not obvious. Is it unpaved / paved ? Where is the limit between path-byway and byway-unclassified ? regards Pieren _