2010/10/2 Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
I think such a project would fail, and here are my reasons why:
Success is never final, failure is never fatal. It's courage that counts.
John
On 02/10/2010 05:51, Brendan Morley wrote:
I actually investigated the use of public domain principles - however
Australian copyright law does not allow it. The best we can do is a
CC BY with zero attribution. If there's anyone out there who can let
me know why zero attribution is not a
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Vincent Pottier vpott...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/10/2010 05:51, Brendan Morley wrote:
I actually investigated the use of public domain principles - however
Australian copyright law does not allow it. The best we can do is a CC BY
with zero attribution. If
On Oct 2, 2010, at 5:03 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
On 10/02/2010 02:45 AM, Dave F. wrote:
With the various forks that could/are taking place within OSM I'm
curious if there are any other examples?
Wikipedia has a catalogue of forks, unfortunately mixed with mirrors:
wikia.com is an example of a wiki fork project. and it looks to be doing fine :)
I like it as it hosts my acrosscanadatrails.wikia.com website.
Its outside of wikipeda, and it's facebook integrated.
wikimapia is also a fork project, and it's doing great. It has a
function and surves a
Le 02/10/10 09:59, Vincent Pottier a écrit :
I'm not a lawer, but I think in the French law the moral fatherhood
(paernité morale) can't be removed. So, zero attribution can't be a ggod
solution for France.
But, moral rights take not to change anyhing in the oeuvre without the
rights owner's
On 02/10/2010 10:03, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
On 10/02/2010 02:45 AM, Dave F. wrote:
With the various forks that could/are taking place within OSM I'm
curious if there are any other examples?
Wikipedia has a catalogue of forks, unfortunately mixed with mirrors:
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
Hi
With the various forks that could/are taking place within OSM I'm curious
if there are any other examples?
I think it's wrong to think of these projects as forks in the same way as
traditional software project forks.
Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org writes:
There *must* have been some forking action when Wikipedia changed their
license from GFDL to CC-BY-SA I'm sure but I cannot find documentation
on that.
I don't believe there was; Wikipedia had a vote of contributors on whether to
change the licence,
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com wrote:
In 2002, the Spanish Wikipedia forked and people went to the other project.
The fork had to do with differences of project policies not license, the
fork died few years later. Spanish Wikipedia grew more slowly as a result
On 02/10/2010 03:04, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
3) OSM has external organizational support
OSM now has organizational, government and commercial support. That's
something none of the forks will have. And for the pubic-domainers-
any organization who wants to use the OSM stack without the OSM
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
From what I understand, it appears that OSM is cutting ties with many of
these due to the wording of the new license/CT.
That's totally wrong. We're seeing greater commercial support than
ever before, and we're seeing (for
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
From what I understand, it appears that OSM is cutting ties with many of
these due to the wording of the new license/CT.
That's totally wrong.
Hi
With the various forks that could/are taking place within OSM I'm
curious if there are any other examples?
If so, what were their outcomes? Did any re-converge?
Cheers
Dave F.
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On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
Hi
With the various forks that could/are taking place within OSM I'm curious if
there are any other examples?
If so, what were their outcomes? Did any re-converge?
OSM is a somewhat unique in that it's not a software
On 2 October 2010 12:04, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
In general the reason a project forks is that the original project has
stagnated and the current maintainers are unresponsive. Or (as we're
seeing now with many of the Sun projects), the original maintainer is
no longer going
Hi Serge,
On 2/10/2010 12:04 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
Now my opinion of any potential OpenStreetMap fork.
I think such a project would fail, and here are my reasons why:
If failure is the opposite of success, what are your criteria for success?
2) The forkers don't agree on the reason
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