Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-06 Thread Kate Chapman
I'd also like to add that people get more excited about OpenStreetMap when they see their changes instantly added. I've trained people in both Potlatch, Potlatch2 and JOSM. I pick the tool depending on specific class. Areas with bad/no internet access we use JOSM and changes are immediately s

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-06 Thread Russ Nelson
Stephen Hope writes: > I keep hearing this, but I must be weird, because I had the opposite > reaction both when I first started and when I show somebody how to use > it. I took one look at Potlatch and thought "I want something that > works offline to test with, with a save button when I'm ha

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-06 Thread Stephen Hope
On 6 June 2011 17:55, Jaak Laineste wrote: >  Also we have always started with P2, JOSM is too scary for the first > introduction. So offline OSM files is not an option. I keep hearing this, but I must be weird, because I had the opposite reaction both when I first started and when I show somebod

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-06 Thread Jaak Laineste
2011/6/5 Serge Wroclawski : > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Stephan Knauss > wrote: >> On 05.06.2011 22:18, Serge Wroclawski wrote: For doing test edits: Why not use the dev api? Then you won't have to worry about uploads breaking something. >>> >>> When I've done this kind

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-05 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Stephan Knauss wrote: > On 05.06.2011 22:18, Serge Wroclawski wrote: >>> >>> For doing test edits: Why not use the dev api? Then you won't have to >>> worry >>> about uploads breaking something. >> >> When I've done this kind of training, it's been for a disaster, a

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-05 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 05.06.2011 22:18, Serge Wroclawski wrote: For doing test edits: Why not use the dev api? Then you won't have to worry about uploads breaking something. When I've done this kind of training, it's been for a disaster, and we need the real data, and the real api. In what way does the dev API

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-05 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Stephan Knauss wrote: > On 05.06.2011 20:46, Jaak Laineste wrote: >>  Is there a procedure or contact to register an IP for temporary >> higher load for such cases? > > You could use offline data and load this into JSOM. To rely on online > ressources for a trainin

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-05 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 05.06.2011 20:46, Jaak Laineste wrote: this reminded me an issue what I've had twice - I had made two sessions of hands-on trainings for OSM, with about 30-40 computers in [...] Is there a procedure or contact to register an IP for temporary higher load for such cases? You could use of

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-05 Thread Jaak Laineste
Hi, this reminded me an issue what I've had twice - I had made two sessions of hands-on trainings for OSM, with about 30-40 computers in a classroom. In both cases when they started to do actual data download/editing, then last ones were rejected from API calls. Perhaps just as we were under same

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-02 Thread Grant Slater
On 2 June 2011 03:42, David Murn wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 22:18 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > >> Yes, you got blocked on 16th May by the looks of it. I don't think I did >> it so it was probably one of my colleagues. > > Is there not some sort of audit trail or changelog for when users get > bl

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-01 Thread David Murn
On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 22:18 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > Yes, you got blocked on 16th May by the looks of it. I don't think I did > it so it was probably one of my colleagues. Is there not some sort of audit trail or changelog for when users get blocked? I think it would be useful if one could fi

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-01 Thread Tom Hughes
On 01/06/11 21:48, Frank Steggink wrote: When you've been downloading too much data, you'll get a 509 error. See here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6#Error_codes That's only for the automated limits, and they currently only apply to the map call. In this case the user was making

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-01 Thread Tom Hughes
On 01/06/11 21:11, Peter Mooney wrote: wanted to download an addition 2,000 ways (their full history) from the same machine today - example "wget http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/way/2048/history -O ./world-xml/history-2048.xml" I keep getting an ERROR 303 .. The error message doesn't make

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-01 Thread Frank Steggink
On 11-06-01 10:11 PM, Peter Mooney wrote: Hi all, Quick question regarding the OSM API. I have a server setup for my OSM research - it has a very fast Internet link. My personal, home, broadband is much slower and limited to 5Gb per month. Anyway during April I downloaded the history files

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-01 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Peter Mooney wrote: > Hi all, > > Quick question regarding the OSM API. [ ... ] > Have I found myself on a "banned" list? It would not be my intention to hog > resources on anyone else - but I didn't think the requests were excessive. Perhaps you have been blocked

[OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-01 Thread Peter Mooney
Hi all, Quick question regarding the OSM API. I have a server setup for my OSM research - it has a very fast Internet link. My personal, home, broadband is much slower and limited to 5Gb per month. Anyway during April I downloaded the history files (in OSM-XML) for a couple of thousand ways. I j