Re: [OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-27 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Pieren gmail.com> writes: > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Kirill Bestoujev gmail.com> wrote: > > I think it is better to try to persuade > > mappers from those countries to create the border in way everyone does. > > No. If we created this super-relation in France, it is because the > ori

Re: [OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-26 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 26/08/2011 17:07, Frederik Ramm a écrit : Hi, Phil! Gold wrote: Why is this so logical? The exact same data can be derived from the intersection of the sets of elements in the two countries' (single-level) border relations. Put yourself in the position of having to create or maintain th

Re: [OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Phil! Gold wrote: Why is this so logical? The exact same data can be derived from the intersection of the sets of elements in the two countries' (single-level) border relations. Put yourself in the position of having to create or maintain them. Creation: Cascading relations: You creat

Re: [OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-26 Thread Phil! Gold
* Frederik Ramm [2011-08-26 15:33 +0200]: > I think it is only logical to group all ways making up the border > with country A in one relation, and those making up the border with > country B in another, and so on. Why is this so logical? The exact same data can be derived from the intersection

Re: [OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-26 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
Ok, convinced. Kirill On 26.08.2011 17:57, Pieren wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Kirill Bestoujev wrote: And Regarding the complexity - Russian border is 5 (or even more) times longer than French, but still we do not split it into pieces... It's not a problem of distance or amount

Re: [OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-26 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Kirill Bestoujev wrote: > > And Regarding the complexity - Russian border is 5 (or even more) times > longer than French, but still we do not split it into pieces... > It's not a problem of distance or amount of nodes but a problem of amount of 'ways members' . In

Re: [OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 08/26/11 15:16, Kirill Bestoujev wrote: could you please explain why do you need to keep France border in the way it is now? What is the purpose? I see no benefits of such a structure, could you show them to me? I think the benefits are obvious. An average country will have a number o

Re: [OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-26 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
Piren, good to hear you have a tool for that. I'll try to get it and adopt it to my needs (but I already see a problem - I have no python installed on the server where I need to use this tool.) And Regarding the complexity - Russian border is 5 (or even more) times longer than French, but st

Re: [OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-26 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
Vincent, could you please explain why do you need to keep France border in the way it is now? What is the purpose? I see no benefits of such a structure, could you show them to me? K. On 26.08.2011 16:40, Vincent Pottier wrote: Le 26/08/2011 14:23, Kirill Bestoujev a écrit : Hi, I have t

Re: [OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-26 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Kirill Bestoujev wrote: > I think it is better to try to persuade > mappers from those countries to create the border in way everyone does. No. If we created this super-relation in France, it is because the original single relation became simply too big for normal

Re: [OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-26 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 26/08/2011 14:23, Kirill Bestoujev a écrit : Hi, I have the same problem, there are two countries with relation-relation borders - France and Guadelupa, I think it is better to try to persuade mappers from those countries to create the border in way everyone does. Or not... Kirill ...An

Re: [OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-26 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
Hi, I have the same problem, there are two countries with relation-relation borders - France and Guadelupa, I think it is better to try to persuade mappers from those countries to create the border in way everyone does. Kirill On 26.08.2011 15:58, Aurélien FILEZ wrote: Hi list, I found too

[OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-26 Thread Aurélien FILEZ
Hi list, I found tools to make a file in polygon filter file format from an OSM relation, like rel2poly or osm2poly. The problem is when a relation is built using others relations, these tools does not seems to support that. France borders is an example of this king of relation : http://www.open