Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 18:42:25 +0530 Arun Ganesh wrote: > > > > this means that all turn:lanes, change:lanes, access:lanes, > > forward:lanes, backward:lanes, etc. should count ALL lanes > > > Turn lanes meant for a turn in a particular direction at the > junction. I'm not sure if the concept of

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: > > El 12 mar 2016, a las 04:18, Paul Johnson escribió: > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Janko Mihelic > wrote: > >> pet, 11. ožu 2016. 21:00 Martin Koppenhoefer je >> napisao: >> >>> >>> what about the pavement/sidewalk, shall it be

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 7:12 AM, Arun Ganesh wrote: > this means that all turn:lanes, change:lanes, access:lanes, >> forward:lanes, backward:lanes, etc. should count ALL lanes > > > Turn lanes meant for a turn in a particular direction at the junction. I'm > not sure if the concept of a turn lane

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

> El 12 mar 2016, a las 04:18, Paul Johnson escribió: > >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Janko Mihelic >> wrote: >> pet, 11. ožu 2016. 21:00 Martin Koppenhoefer je >> napisao: >>> >>> what about the pavement/sidewalk, shall it be included? If yes, what is a >>> lane there, e.g. when the

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

In the Netherlands just about everything that can apply to motor vehicles can also be found somewhere applying to bicycles. That includes turn lanes... --colin On 12 March 2016 14:12:25 CET, Arun Ganesh wrote: >> >> this means that all turn:lanes, change:lanes, access:lanes, >> forward:lanes, ba

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

> > this means that all turn:lanes, change:lanes, access:lanes, > forward:lanes, backward:lanes, etc. should count ALL lanes Turn lanes meant for a turn in a particular direction at the junction. I'm not sure if the concept of a turn lane extends to a cycle? The turn lane data should provide eno

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Janko Mihelic wrote: > pet, 11. ožu 2016. 21:00 Martin Koppenhoefer je > napisao: > >> >> what about the pavement/sidewalk, shall it be included? If yes, what is a >> lane there, e.g. when there are (partially) physical separations? >> >> > No, I wouldn't includ

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

pet, 11. ožu 2016. 21:00 Martin Koppenhoefer je napisao: > > what about the pavement/sidewalk, shall it be included? If yes, what is a > lane there, e.g. when there are (partially) physical separations? > > No, I wouldn't include sidewalks. You could argue that sidewalks are just another lane, b

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

sent from a phone > Am 11.03.2016 um 11:51 schrieb Janko Mihelić : > > +1 for counting all lanes what about the pavement/sidewalk, shall it be included? If yes, what is a lane there, e.g. when there are (partially) physical separations? cheers, Martin __

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

+1 for counting all lanes, for whatever type of traffic. It's valuable information for cars that bikes are driving alongside. If a router has to choose a route for a car, a road without bikes is probably better. If a driver has to turn left over a bike lane, router should show a danger sign, watch

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

This is the more logical interpretation; the key:lanes page should be updated. cycleway=lane is great, but where is the lane? What about multiple lanes? This does happen, and they're not always next to each other, and any location there's multiple bike lanes or bicycle turn lanes can't be complet

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

Please read http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes, which describes the ":lanes"- subkey. This page states: "Please be aware that this extension covers all kinds of lanes for all kind of vehicles and is not restricted to motorized traffic." this means that all turn:lanes, change:lanes, access:l

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

Hi everyone, The definition of a lane as per http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:lanes is: > The *lanes*=* key should be used to specify the total number of traffic lanes a road has which are available to *motorised traffic* wider than a motor cycle. For t

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

Really, any restricted lane should be in the total lane count and have the appropriate lane permissions assigned. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Thu, 2016-03-10 at 11:24 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Abhishek Saikia > wrote: > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

Hi Abhishek 1. I think it's good to have a guide. But I'm familiar with discussions through the standard OSM ways (Wiki pages, Diaries). I find GitHub not easily accessible. Also, the danger exists that discussions are finished on GitHub leading to changes in the guide, however omitting changes on

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

On 10/03/16 17:46, Philip Barnes wrote: > You will also need to consider bus lanes as well. Complicated by selective operating times and contraflow problems :) I got caught out by that going to SOTM at Birmingham ... OSMAND was telling me where to turn ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ---

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

On Thu, 2016-03-10 at 11:24 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Abhishek Saikia > l.com> wrote: > > Hi Marc, > > > > Thank you for the kind words and prompt feedback. `turn:lanes` are > > exclusively for vehicles and as per discussion with the OSRM team > > here: h

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Abhishek Saikia wrote: > Hi Marc, > > Thank you for the kind words and prompt feedback. `turn:lanes` are > exclusively for vehicles and as per discussion with the OSRM team here: > https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/issues/2048, we are at > present ignor

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 20:26:15 +0530 Abhishek Saikia wrote: > `turn:lanes` are > exclusively for vehicles (...) we are at > present ignoring adding cycle lanes during `turn:lanes` mapping. This is inconsistent given that bicycles are vehicles. see for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

Hi Marc, Thank you for the kind words and prompt feedback. `turn:lanes` are exclusively for vehicles and as per discussion with the OSRM team here: https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/issues/2048, we are at present ignoring adding cycle lanes during `turn:lanes` mapping. Please do keep s

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

Thanks for writing this nice guide. Everything becomes more complex when there are cycle lanes involved. Maybe you could spend a chapter on that as well ? I'm thinking about turn:lanes that should take into account the cycle lanes, as well as permissions for the different lanes in those cases. Al

[OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

Hello everyone, As a part of a recent push to improve OpenStreetMap navigation data, our team at Mapbox started collaborating documentation to create a comprehensive wiki on "* Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap *". This mappi