Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

http://openjdk.java.net/ All the code is gplv2 so I doubt we'd have any issues using it. Java 11 is supported on openjdk and there are beta builds of Java 12 far are the days where openjdk was 2-3 versions behind the current api level On Wed., Oct. 10, 2018, 6:42 p.m. John Whelan, wrote: >

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

>What about openjdk? From the openjdk website for windows 10 "We're counting down to the last free Oracle Java 8 update - what's your plan?" We appear to have 96 days left. I merely raised a concern, but thank you for bringing this additional information to our notice it wasn't something I w

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

8. Oct 2018 01:01 by jwhelan0...@gmail.com : > There is probably an element of religion here, the existing developers know > JAVA and their existing development environment and are happy with it.  It > would be a lot of work and there would be a lot of testing to d

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

8. Oct 2018 16:33 by f...@zz.de : > Over the last 2-3 years i am getting my trouble with josm because it > is no longer an offline editor. Everyone who has tried starting josm > on Edge type connections (Yes - i do have DSL Light with 384KBit/s at > home) knows what i am talkin

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

7. Oct 2018 23:07 by jwhelan0...@gmail.com : > JAVA has a number of problems.  Can you give examples that would justify a massive effort of reimplementing JOSM?   > Many corporations ban its installation citing security issues which restricts > the machines

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

Hi, On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 11:26:20PM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Someone attempted to re-develop JOSM (as "JOSM-ng") in 2008 and even > then (with JOSM having a fraction of the features it has today) it > didn't get anywhere ;) > > I recently (on josm-dev) said that the actual code is not the

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 05:27:19PM -0400, Mike N wrote: > > I'm not saying C# is the only way to go. > > There's a lot to like about a C# solution, but currently lacks a cross > platform desktop graphics library. All the "Desktop pack" GUIs that Dotnet > Core supports are Windows-only. I don'

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

It's not a major problem but it does come up from time to time.  Usually iD is acceptable and if they are a heavy mapper then they'll find a suitable machine. A version of JOSM wrapped in an .exe than ran under windows would be useful as long as JAVA did not have to be installed. My feeling

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 23:11, john whelan wrote: > JAVA has a number of problems. Many corporations ban its installation > citing security issues which restricts the machines that can use JOSM with > all its nice tools. > Is this an actual problem you, or people you know, encounter? If so, is th

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

Putting aside the string of 0-day exploits on applet plugins (which absolutely nobody uses) that we saw a few years ago, I'm finding it difficult to get info that backs up the claim that Java is much less secure than .NET. What I have found indicates they are on par. e.g. https://www.veracode.com/

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Android(google) has been sued over implementing their own JVM, so they do not depend on Oracle(oracle lost that fight too) On Sun., Oct. 7, 2018, 5:38 p.m. Richard, wrote: > On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 05:11:20PM -0400, James wrote: > > people will switch to openjdk. problem solved. > > my hope too.

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On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 05:11:20PM -0400, James wrote: > people will switch to openjdk. problem solved. my hope too. Although Oracle's touch of death has left an impressive trace in the IT departments Java is much more than that single implementation by Sun/Oracle. Think Android, gcj, c-lang and

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

yes. I've been running openjdk since before the oracle debacle. Openjdk is the bleeding edge version of java. All new features are now developed on the openjdk side by oracle and other open source developers. When a release is issued, oracle adds performance secret sauce to their proprietary bina

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

On 10/7/2018 5:07 PM, john whelan wrote: C# apparently is open source.  Visual Studio 2017 is a professional development environment.  Yes it is Windows and I recognise that many prefer one flavour of UNIX or another but I think it is time to think strategically and start work on a replacement

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

Hi, On 10/07/2018 11:07 PM, john whelan wrote: > So thoughts ladies and gentlemen? Someone attempted to re-develop JOSM (as "JOSM-ng") in 2008 and even then (with JOSM having a fraction of the features it has today) it didn't get anywhere ;) I recently (on josm-dev) said that the actual code is

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

But will it run JOSM today or would some changes be required to JOSM? Thanks John On Sun, 7 Oct 2018, 5:11 pm James, wrote: > people will switch to openjdk. problem solved. > > On Sun., Oct. 7, 2018, 5:09 p.m. john whelan, > wrote: > >> JAVA has a number of problems. Many corporations ban its

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

people will switch to openjdk. problem solved. On Sun., Oct. 7, 2018, 5:09 p.m. john whelan, wrote: > JAVA has a number of problems. Many corporations ban its installation > citing security issues which restricts the machines that can use JOSM with > all its nice tools. > > Oracle never was ena

[OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

JAVA has a number of problems. Many corporations ban its installation citing security issues which restricts the machines that can use JOSM with all its nice tools. Oracle never was enamoured of open software and since it has taken over JAVA the licensing has changed amongst other things. I note