Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/2/24 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org: On Monday 23 February 2009 19:52:37 LeedsTracker wrote: E.g. I take a photo of a level crossing, locate in in Google Maps, upload and tag it in WikiMedia Commons - no problem it seems. Is this different from using the same method to adjust the

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread LeedsTracker
2009/2/24 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org: On Monday 23 February 2009 19:52:37 LeedsTracker wrote: E.g. I take a photo of a level crossing, locate in in Google Maps, upload and tag it in WikiMedia Commons - no problem it seems. Is this different from using the same method to adjust the

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread LeedsTracker
2009/2/24 Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk: 2009/2/24 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org: On Monday 23 February 2009 19:52:37 LeedsTracker wrote: E.g. I take a photo of a level crossing, locate in in Google Maps, upload and tag it in WikiMedia Commons - no problem it seems. Is this

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread Donald Allwright
Please don't use Google Maps when doing OSM. It's just not worth the risk. I understand that this is a safe and wise rule, but as Wikimedia Commons' site suggests (and Nic's reply, commenting on talk-legal discussions), there may be a fair use (or fair dealing) for rectifying the location of an

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread David Earl
On 24/02/2009 09:58, LeedsTracker wrote: Please don't use Google Maps when doing OSM. It's just not worth the risk. I understand that this is a safe and wise rule, but as Wikimedia Commons' site suggests (and Nic's reply, commenting on talk-legal discussions), there may be a fair use (or

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread LeedsTracker
2009/2/24 Donald Allwright donald_allwri...@yahoo.com: Please don't use Google Maps when doing OSM. It's just not worth the risk. I understand that this is a safe and wise rule, but as Wikimedia Commons' site suggests (and Nic's reply, commenting on talk-legal discussions), there may be a fair

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread Someoneelse
http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p09_fair_use I'm guessing that the spelling mistake on the front page (Devirative works) is an Easter Egg to stop anyone copying it... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
LeedsTracker wrote: I do. To be clear, I'm not advocating using Gmaps/G-earth for OSM, I was just puzzled by the (apparently unproblematic) use of it in Wikimedia and wondered if a parallel use was justifiable. Put yourself in the shoes of Google's lawyers - and, more significantly, those of

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread Simon Ward
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 04:00:22PM +, LeedsTracker wrote: The concept of fair use is something which differs from one jurisdiction to another. [snip] I know, though the principle is in UK law: http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p09_fair_use That page is a little misleading.

[OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-23 Thread LeedsTracker
Hello all, Sorry to open this up again, but... I just uploaded my first pic to http://commons.wikimedia.org It gives the option to add a geo location for where you took the photo from. This page gives many methods for doing that, including locating on Google Maps or Google Earth:

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-23 Thread Nic Roets
Hi, From what I've read on talk-legal on more than one occasion : Deriving individual nodes and individual segments on a small scale is OK. Esp. when they are derived from raw facts (photos and gps traces). But extracting a whole bunch of nodes and segments that link up is bad. It's not that

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-23 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 23 February 2009 19:52:37 LeedsTracker wrote: E.g. I take a photo of a level crossing, locate in in Google Maps, upload and tag it in WikiMedia Commons - no problem it seems. Is this different from using the same method to adjust the level crossing node in OSM accordingly? and just