Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-03-06 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 3/3/2012 8:24 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: We don't have zero-point markers in the USA, either, at least not from my experience. However, the highway departments seem to be referring to some point in or near the center of the cities, judging from the distances shown. Sometimes it's to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-03-06 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 3/6/2012 8:53 AM, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote: On 3/3/2012 9:04 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Sometimes it's to the center (usually the courthouse or city hall?) and sometimes to the city limits. The only zero point I know of (that's not intended for only one road) is the Zero Milestone in

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-03-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
mick bare...@tpg.com.au wrote: My original interest was if there was a specific point that said 'this is Sometown', where distances to adjacent towns were measured from, similar to the Australian convention where the Zero Point was set along the roadside, at the Post Office which was

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-03-03 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 03.03.2012 15:15, schrieb John F. Eldredge: Here in the USA, highways commonly have signs stating the distance to the next major town. Are such distance signs no longer used in Australia? In Germany these signs exist, but the distances refer to different locations. The sign located at the

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-03-03 Thread mick
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 08:15:00 -0600 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: mick bare...@tpg.com.au wrote: My original interest was if there was a specific point that said 'this is Sometown', where distances to adjacent towns were measured from, similar to the Australian convention

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-03-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:15 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Here in the USA, highways commonly have signs stating the distance to the next major town.  Are such distance signs no longer used in Australia? Yes - usually abbreviated to just one or two letters, eg MB 40 might mean

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-03-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:15 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Here in the USA, highways commonly have signs stating the distance to the next major town.  Are such distance signs no longer used in Australia? Yes - usually abbreviated

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-03-02 Thread Philip Barnes
I have found some interesting stuff whilst playing with routing on http://open.mapquest.org (which uses OSM). Have found that it cannot route to Shrewsbury. Have found that the town waypoint has been put in the middle of a retail area, with pedestrianised streets around. Am guessing it is

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-03-02 Thread mick
On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 20:16:18 + Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: I have found some interesting stuff whilst playing with routing on http://open.mapquest.org (which uses OSM). Have found that it cannot route to Shrewsbury. Have found that the town waypoint has been put in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-03-02 Thread John F. Eldredge
mick bare...@tpg.com.au wrote: On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 20:16:18 + Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: I have found some interesting stuff whilst playing with routing on http://open.mapquest.org (which uses OSM). Have found that it cannot route to Shrewsbury. Have found that

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-03-02 Thread mick
On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 21:14:47 -0600 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: mick bare...@tpg.com.au wrote: On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 20:16:18 + Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: I have found some interesting stuff whilst playing with routing on http://open.mapquest.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-29 Thread Stephen Gower
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 09:15:34AM +1000, mick wrote: That make a lot of sense to me, the church has been the focal point of the village since Saxon times while the Post Office didn't appear until the 19th? century. Except there are cases where the village moved and but the church didn't.

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread Richard Mann
We're kinda proud of the fact that the government doesn't bother with such things as defining the centre of the town (or seasons). It's just one of those things that makes us different from ze French. So the place tag will be wherever people feel like (usually the nearest open space to the centre

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread phil
London distances are, I believe, measured from Marble Arch. Phil On 24/02/2012 8:23 Richard Mann wrote: We're kinda proud of the fact that the government doesn't bother with such things as defining the centre of the town (or seasons). It's just one of those things that makes us different

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread Tom Hughes
On 24/02/12 08:42, p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: London distances are, I believe, measured from Marble Arch. I always understood it to be Charing Cross and wikipedia seems to agree: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charing_cross#Official_use_as_central_point That is the only one that I know in

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread Lester Caine
kenneth gonsalves wrote: Can some one advise me of the official policy for locating the centre of towns in the UK, i.e. the spot on the map for a point representing the town and used as the Zero Point for measuring distances to other towns. in India it is usually the head post office.

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread John Sturdy
The logical centre and the geometrical centre aren't necessarily anywhere near each other --- for example, what is generally thought of as the city centre of Cambridge UK is some way west of the crossing point between the lines between the northmost and southmost, and westmost and eastmost, points

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 09:20 +, Lester Caine wrote: kenneth gonsalves wrote: Can some one advise me of the official policy for locating the centre of towns in the UK, i.e. the spot on the map for a point representing the town and used as the Zero Point for measuring distances to

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread Nathan Edgars II
I don't know if any UK towns use an addressing grid. Locally, when the grid zero point lies within the downtown area, I've used this (e.g. the intersection of Orange and Central in Orlando). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread Andy Robinson
communal feature of the hamlet for instance. Of course this could just be a be cartographic approach taken by the OS. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Sent: 24 February 2012 09:20 To: OSM Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread phil
There is no grid system for UK towns, however where the main post office is or was is a reasonable approach to positioning the town centre. In terms of villages the church is usually the best. On 24/02/2012 11:39 Nathan Edgars II wrote: I don't know if any UK towns use an addressing grid.

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Philip Barnes wrote: in an unknown village if you want to find the pub, head for the church. Or in a cathedral city...: http://www.imbibit.co.uk/ (shame it's a Google map, though) cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread SomeoneElse
Richard Fairhurst wrote: (shame it's a Google map, though) Indeed. According to Google someone has knocked down Derby cathedral and rebuilt it across the road. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread mick
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:20:13 + Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: kenneth gonsalves wrote: Can some one advise me of the official policy for locating the centre of towns in the UK, i.e. the spot on the map for a point representing the town and used as the Zero Point for

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread mick
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:45:06 + p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: There is no grid system for UK towns, however where the main post office is or was is a reasonable approach to positioning the town centre. In terms of villages the church is usually the best. That make a lot of sense to me,

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread mick
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:31:31 - Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: If you refer to old OS maps the location of the place name seems most often to be positioned in relation to certain specific features. Where there is a parish church they seem to use that, where not its often the post

[OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-23 Thread mick
I hope this isn't off-topic, if so I apologise. Can some one advise me of the official policy for locating the centre of towns in the UK, i.e. the spot on the map for a point representing the town and used as the Zero Point for measuring distances to other towns. In Australia this was taken as

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-23 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 11:14 +1000, mick wrote: Can some one advise me of the official policy for locating the centre of towns in the UK, i.e. the spot on the map for a point representing the town and used as the Zero Point for measuring distances to other towns. in India it is usually the