Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

2016-12-11 Thread john whelan
In Lichinga, Niassa, Mozambique http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/335126704#map=15/-13.3219/35.2649 practically every street is labeled highway=living_street including many that look quite wide to me. In other parts of the city the same type of street when viewed in Bing is labeled residential.

Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

2016-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2016-12-11 11:55 GMT+01:00 Tobias Zwick : > These kinds of streets are not only common in old town centers in Europe > but can be found in any place in the world that hadn't been built with > cars in mind, in shanty towns and also in modern (non-shanty) towns - > especially

Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

2016-12-11 Thread john whelan
Which icon is it? I was never very good at icons. Thanks John On 11 December 2016 at 07:58, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > On 11 December 2016 at 01:15, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > > But participants > > in the thread were mostly experienced with

Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

2016-12-11 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 11 December 2016 at 01:15, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > But participants > in the thread were mostly experienced with French-speaking Africa - so I > cannot rule out the existence of a living street legal classification in > other locales. At least South Africa seems to have

Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

2016-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 11 Dec 2016, at 01:15, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > > The resulting consensus was that, while unpaved residential streets in Africa > are living streets in practice which aspects of living streets? That you may only park in marked parking lots? That

Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

2016-12-11 Thread Tobias Zwick
> from minor ones... Some bright spark took initiative by tagging a large > part of Dakar's residential streets as highway=service - that has been > universally perceived as a very bad idea. Well, there is this line in the wiki for highway=service and service=alley: "In some medieval European

Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

2016-12-11 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
On 11.12.16 01:15, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On 12/10/2016 08:47 PM, john whelan wrote: I just did a search on part of Mozambique and came across more than 500 highway=living_street. I always understood them to be a European concept highway with signs on the street and a very low max speed.

Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

2016-12-10 Thread john whelan
:* john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> > *Cc :* OpenStreetMap talk mailing list <talk@openstreetmap.org> > *Envoyé le :* samedi 10 décembre 2016 20h10 > *Objet :* Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets > > Legal definition vs."duck typing" - there is a bit of

Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

2016-12-10 Thread Pierre Béland
20h10 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets Legal definition vs."duck typing" - there is a bit of both in Openstreetmap tagging... But because "living street" has a precise legal definition in Europe, involved mappers chose not to confu

Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

2016-12-10 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
Legal definition vs."duck typing" - there is a bit of both in Openstreetmap tagging... But because "living street" has a precise legal definition in Europe, involved mappers chose not to confuse the issue by using a different one. Then there was the question of differentiating large

Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

2016-12-10 Thread john whelan
My gut feel is these have been mapped before the African highway wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa guidelines were written. One batch was mapped in 2013. If they were mapped on a HOT project that I was validating I'd probably switch them to residential unless it was an

Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

2016-12-10 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 12/10/2016 08:47 PM, john whelan wrote: I just did a search on part of Mozambique and came across more than 500 highway=living_street. I always understood them to be a European concept highway with signs on the street and a very low max speed. I wouldn't have expected to see so many

[OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

2016-12-10 Thread john whelan
I just did a search on part of Mozambique and came across more than 500 highway=living_street. I always understood them to be a European concept highway with signs on the street and a very low max speed. I wouldn't have expected to see so many clustered together in Mozambique. Idle curiosity