Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011-06-26 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/25 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: If you're editing in a place where you have reason to believe that you're not the only one, uploading often isn't too bad a habit - reduces the likelihood of conflicts! Yes, but is there a point of doing this within the same changeset? Cheers,

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011-06-26 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
Am 26.06.2011 13:53, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: 2011/6/25 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: If you're editing in a place where you have reason to believe that you're not the only one, uploading often isn't too bad a habit - reduces the likelihood of conflicts! Yes, but is there a point

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011-06-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Yes, but is there a point of doing this within the same changeset? Yes, of course there is. If you're using an online editor you should save early and save often. When the user chooses to start/finish a changeset has no bearing on that. cheers Richard -- View this

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011-06-26 Thread Tobias Knerr
Richard Fairhurst wrote: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Yes, but is there a point of doing this within the same changeset? Yes, of course there is. If you're using an online editor you should save early and save often. When the user chooses to start/finish a changeset has no bearing on that.

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011-06-26 Thread Russ Nelson
Tobias Knerr writes: The problem is that saving and committing are, in this case, the same action. While it's of course desirable to commit somewhat frequently (to avoid conflicts), it's not desirable to commit your unfinished in-progress edits every few seconds. I'm somewhat paranoid

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011-06-26 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: Richard Fairhurst wrote: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Yes, but is there a point of doing this within the same changeset? Yes, of course there is. If you're using an online editor you should save early and save often.

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011-06-26 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 26 Jun 2011, at 18:10, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: Richard Fairhurst wrote: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Yes, but is there a point of doing this within the same changeset? Yes, of course there is. If you're using an

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011-06-26 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: If you use the diff uploads, then it is already the case that a changeset could be called a collection of transactions, though the transaction id is never exposed or stored. (Technically the transaction ids and

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011-06-26 Thread Tom Hughes
On 26/06/11 19:52, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Another benefit of that would be the ability to have asynchronous transactions, which could lead to a better editing experience. An API call could happen quickly, the client could be given a transaction ID and then optionally not need to wait for the

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011-06-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Tobias Knerr wrote: I've just spotted several changesets where a large number of versions of the same node were created within a single changeset, e.g.: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8542345 Should that even be possible? Sure, most editors allow you to keep a changeset

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011-06-25 Thread Shaun McDonald
If the user is saving their changes on a regular basis, then yes I would expect the same item to be in the changeset multiple times. In this case it looks as though the user has been moving the bus stop and then hitting the save button multiple times. (Potlatch2 will not automatically save and

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011-06-25 Thread Tobias Knerr
Frederik Ramm wrote: Tobias Knerr wrote: I've just spotted several changesets where a large number of versions of the same node were created within a single changeset, e.g.: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8542345 Should that even be possible? Sure, most editors allow you

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011-06-25 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Shaun McDonald wrote: In this case it looks as though the user has been moving the bus stop and then hitting the save button multiple times. (Potlatch2 will not automatically save and requires the user to choose when to save). I suspect he was seeing if and how it renders. Naughty :) --

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011-06-25 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
fun? Maybe each node had its own license ? /fun? gert -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Nathan Edgars II [mailto:nerou...@gmail.com] Verzonden: zaterdag 25 juni 2011 20:18 Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset Shaun McDonald

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset

2011-06-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Tobias Knerr wrote: I optimistically assumed that the modifications are merged when the changeset is closed, thus creating a changeset indistinguishable from one that was created in one go. That would only be possible if the API were to somehow have a transaction for open changesets with