Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-28 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:32 AM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-28 Thread Karl Newman
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:32 AM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Karl Newman wrote: > >> > I think the "obvious" thing is

Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-28 Thread Igor Brejc
Richard Fairhurst wrote: > I realise I've blethered on about this before, but IMO this adds > significant complexity to editing. Relations are less intuitive to the > newbie, and our existing editors are better set up for editing tags > than relations. > > If Osmarender doesn't "unify" three

Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-28 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Karl Newman wrote: >> > I think the "obvious" thing is to quit splitting ways just because >> > there's a bridge or the speed limit changed.

Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gervase Markham wrote: > If you label all three ways with "name=Foo Street", you get "Foo Street" > rendered 3 times along a fairly short length, at least in Osmarender. If > you leave the name off the outer ends, then those ways are incorrectly > assumed to be unnamed streets when they have a nam

Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gervase Markham wrote: > If you label all three ways with "name=Foo Street", you get "Foo Street" > rendered 3 times along a fairly short length, at least in Osmarender. If > you leave the name off the outer ends, then those ways are incorrectly > assumed to be unnamed streets when they have a nam

Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-27 Thread Karl Newman
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Karl Newman wrote: > > I think the "obvious" thing is to quit splitting ways just because > > there's a bridge or the speed limit changed... IMHO, the only reason to > > split ways is if the name changes or if the major

Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-27 Thread Gervase Markham
Karl Newman wrote: > I think the "obvious" thing is to quit splitting ways just because > there's a bridge or the speed limit changed... IMHO, the only reason to > split ways is if the name changes or if the major type changes. Er, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not possible to apply a tag to o

Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-27 Thread Henry Loenwind
Gervase Markham wrote: > Indeed. My question is: can they? :-) > (The opposite problem is the very long road which is a single way. The > name should regularly repeat, but I don't think it does on either Mapnik > or Osmarender.) I have proof-of-concept code for Osmarender (or to be more correct:

Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-27 Thread Karl Newman
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a situation (which I suspect is very common) where a street is > split into e.g. 3 ways, because the middle one is part of a bus route or > other relation. > > If you label all three ways with "name=Foo Street",

Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-27 Thread Steve Chilton
se Markham Sent: Sun 7/27/2008 8:53 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Cc: Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations Shaun McDonald wrote: > The renderers need fixed, if they can't cope with

Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-27 Thread Gervase Markham
Shaun McDonald wrote: > The renderers need fixed, if they can't cope with this kind of data. Indeed. My question is: can they? :-) > Mapnik will only write the name where there is space for it. Right, but that's precisely the problem. It writes it three times when I really only want it written

Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-27 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 27 Jul 2008, at 20:09, Gervase Markham wrote: > > I have a situation (which I suspect is very common) where a street is > split into e.g. 3 ways, because the middle one is part of a bus > route or > other relation. > > If you label all three ways with "name=Foo Street", you get "Foo > Stre

[OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-27 Thread Gervase Markham
I have a situation (which I suspect is very common) where a street is split into e.g. 3 ways, because the middle one is part of a bus route or other relation. If you label all three ways with "name=Foo Street", you get "Foo Street" rendered 3 times along a fairly short length, at least in Osmaren