Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps - Update

2010-12-18 Thread andrzej zaborowski
Hi Ed, On 17 December 2010 13:43, Ed Parsons epars...@google.com wrote: Last month back Steve Coast contacted us to let us know that he had identified what may have been OpenStreetMap data in Google Maps of Colombia.  We raised this issue with our provider for Colombia, and they agreed to

[OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps - Update

2010-12-17 Thread Ed Parsons
Last month back Steve Coast contacted us to let us know that he had identified what may have been OpenStreetMap data in Google Maps of Colombia. We raised this issue with our provider for Colombia, and they agreed to remove the disputed data from their data set while they continue to discuss the

[Talk-co] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps - Update

2010-12-17 Thread ouɐɯnH
, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:43 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps - Update To: t...@openstreetmap.org Last month back Steve Coast contacted us to let us know that he had identified what may have been OpenStreetMap data in Google Maps of Colombia.  We raised this issue with our provider

Re: [Talk-co] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps - Update

2010-12-17 Thread Igor Támara
? ;-) ouɐɯnH salu2 ouɐɯnH ouɐɯnH -- Forwarded message -- ouɐɯnH From: Ed Parsons epars...@google.com ouɐɯnH Date: Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:43 AM ouɐɯnH Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps - Update ouɐɯnH To: t...@openstreetmap.org ouɐɯnH ouɐɯnH ouɐɯnH Last month back Steve

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] [Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps]

2010-11-22 Thread Itserik
Op 2-11-2010 16:33, Itserik schreef: Als dat zou zijn dan zijn ze toch wel erg laat met de N36 bij Ommen. Maar misschien dat dit mailtje ergens iets triggered. Erik We zijn amper 20 dagen verder en de N36 staat nu wel op googlemaps. Alleen alle viaducten, turnrestrictions en uitlijning

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] [Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps]

2010-11-22 Thread Peter
Op een of andere manier is dit geen toeval meer... Komop Google, je mag het best zeggen hoor! (nee echt, we bijten niet) Op 22 november 2010 09:18 schreef Itserik e...@itserik.nl het volgende: Op 2-11-2010 16:33, Itserik schreef: Als dat zou zijn dan zijn ze toch wel erg laat met de N36 bij

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] [Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps]

2010-11-22 Thread Frank Heinen
En nu zou het tof zijn als ze zeggen, Hey mappers, ja we gebruiken jullie input om onze kaart te verbeteren. Dat zou ik geweldig vinden! Op 22-11-10 heeft Peterpe...@haas-en-berg.nl het volgende geschreven: Op een of andere manier is dit geen toeval meer... Komop Google, je mag het best zeggen

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-18 Thread ouɐɯnH
Dear Ed an all .. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:41 AM, Ed Parsons epars...@google.com wrote: Last week Steve Coast contacted us to let us know that he had identified what may have been OpenStreetMap data in Google Maps of Colombia.  We investigated the matter and determined that one of our

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-17 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli
Fredy, I think they will not tell you who sold them the OSM data. The same thing happened with Waze when I asked about their provider for the Chilean OSM Data. They told us that LocationWorld sold them the data (at least the first time) and that a provider of that company was the one to be blamed

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] [Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps]

2010-11-04 Thread Henk Hoff
Zoals in de reactie van Ed Parsons al staat, zijn ze (en blijven ze) OSM ondersteunen. Dat doen ze bv in (financiele) donaties. Dit was geen kwaadwilligheid van Google om ons een hak oid te zetten. We, als OSMF, zijn wel geinteresseerd in hun dataleverancier. Dit is nl het tweede akkefietje in

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-03 Thread Jim Brown
I strongly agree... Most errors are honest mistakes and we should always start with the presumption of innocence. Jim Brown (Sent from my iPhone) On 3 Nov 2010, at 09:35, Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi wrote: Martijn van Exel m at rtijn.org writes: Ed - Big thumbs up for

Re: [Talk-co] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps in Colombia

2010-11-03 Thread Humberto Yances
Asunto: Re: [Talk-co] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps in Colombia Fecha: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:01:56 -0500 Humberto. Tu sabes si hay imagenes satelitales de esta zona para poder relizar trabajo de cartografía? Interesante, mis muchachos y yo podriamos ayudar realizando una jornada

[OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Thread Ed Parsons
Last week Steve Coast contacted us to let us know that he had identified what may have been OpenStreetMap data in Google Maps of Colombia. We investigated the matter and determined that one of our providers had indeed included OSM data in the data-set they provided to us, once we learned this we

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Thread pavithran
On 2 November 2010 14:11, Ed Parsons epars...@google.com wrote: Although we feel unable to license OSM data at present, we remain supporters of the project, and we will without question act in a similar way if the rights of the OSM community and your data is abused. Thats cool . Glad to hear

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Thread Martijn van Exel
Ed - Big thumbs up for the quick response to this. Makes one wonder though - how much OSM data lives in Google Maps without us / you knowing about it, and what measures can you take / are in place to prevent and detect this? Martijn Martijn van Exel +++ m...@rtijn.org Laziness – Impatience –

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Thread Peter Körner
Am 02.11.2010 09:41, schrieb Ed Parsons: once we learned this we removed the data as quickly as possible. I think this is the essence of not being evil :) Although we feel unable to license OSM data at present Would this change with a switch ODbL? Peter

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Thread Toby Murray
Hmm this isn't the first time that OSM data has found its way into some 3rd party platform via some unnamed provider. Do google, etc not ask any questions about the data source from these providers? Or are the provider(s) lying about it? Toby ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Thread Peter Körner
Am 02.11.2010 22:58, schrieb Toby Murray: Hmm this isn't the first time that OSM data has found its way into some 3rd party platform via some unnamed provider. Do google, etc not ask any questions about the data source from these providers? Or are the provider(s) lying about it? There's a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Thread Richard Mann
As far as I am concerned anyone is free to use the data I've put into OSM, as long as they let me have access to a reasonable amount of stuff in return. Share and share alike. I'd rather they'd kept the data, and offered to allow some to be available in exchange. Richard On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:04 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Does it matter? Does it matter that there is some company out there that is making lots of money selling map data while violating our (very

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/11/3 Anthony o...@inbox.org: Why?  According to the very organization distributing the data, the license doesn't apply. Well, isn't it more it might not apply? Maybe we won't win a case but maybe we would actually. cheers, Martin ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:01 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/3 Anthony o...@inbox.org: Why?  According to the very organization distributing the data, the license doesn't apply. Well, isn't it more it might not apply? Maybe we won't win a case but maybe we would

[OSM-talk-nl] [Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps]

2010-11-02 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
De mensen die de Engelse talk niet volgen wou ik dit toch niet onthouden :) Skinkie, niet meteen op de blog zetten he? Groet, Floris Original Message Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps From:Ed Parsons epars...@google.com

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] [Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps]

2010-11-02 Thread Martijn van Exel
data and Google Maps From:Ed Parsons epars...@google.com Date:Tue, November 2, 2010 09:41 To: t...@openstreetmap.org -- Last week Steve Coast contacted us to let us know that he had identified what may have

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] [Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps]

2010-11-02 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Martijn van Exel wrote: Toch wel creepy, dat dit door de QA van google en toeleveranciers kan schieten. Ik heb op talk de vraag opgeworpen wat google kan doen en doet om dit te voorkomen, maar ligt er ook niet een taak voor OSM om dit soort onrechtmatig gebruik

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] [Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps]

2010-11-02 Thread Itserik
Op 2-11-2010 15:28, Stefan de Konink schreef: On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Martijn van Exel wrote: Toch wel creepy, dat dit door de QA van google en toeleveranciers kan schieten. Ik heb op talk de vraag opgeworpen wat google kan doen en doet om dit te voorkomen, maar ligt er ook niet een taak voor OSM

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] [Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps]

2010-11-02 Thread Martien Scheepens
Soms zijn ze te snel. Deze weg is naar mijn idee nog niet gereed (gemeente heeft hem enkel in hun plannen staan), maar ik zal er morgen langsfietsen:

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] [Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps]

2010-11-02 Thread robert
Maar die kennen we. Putten had volgens Google al twee jaar allemaal rotondes op de toegangswegen. Dit jaar zijn ze gerealiseerd. Ps: Leuk dat het G-woord weer volmondig genoemd mag worden. Robert Quoting Martien Scheepens mart...@fmf.nl: Soms zijn ze te snel. Deze weg is naar mijn idee nog

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] [Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps]

2010-11-02 Thread F. Heinen
Ps: Leuk dat het G-woord weer volmondig genoemd mag worden. :^) Mocht dat niet dan? Zonee dan hou ik me niet aan die regels :P Wel tof dat Google zo reageerd. Ik snap niet dat we hier niet meer op in gaan om te kijken of we hun niet verder kunnen krijgen. Laat ze een hand vol geld sponsoren elk

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] [Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps]

2010-11-02 Thread Rob
Op 2 november 2010 22:53 heeft F. Heinen f.heinen...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Ps: Leuk dat het G-woord weer volmondig genoemd mag worden. :^) Mocht dat niet dan? Zonee dan hou ik me niet aan die regels :P Wel tof dat Google zo reageerd. Ik snap niet dat we hier niet meer op in gaan

Re: [Talk-co] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps in Colombia

2010-11-02 Thread Humberto Yances
@openstreetmap.org Para: OpenStreetMap Colombia talk-co@openstreetmap.org Cc: Steve Coast ste...@osmfoundation.org, carolina botero carobot...@gmail.com Asunto: [Talk-co] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps in Colombia Fecha: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 10:11:34 -0500 Hola maperos, En dias pasados nos

Re: [Talk-co] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps in Colombia

2010-11-02 Thread Leonardo Gutierrez
*Asunto*: Re: [Talk-co] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps in Colombia *Fecha*: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:51:30 -0500 *Transporte*: Evolution 2.30.3 A primera vista ahi no se ve copia. El mapa de google en ese sitio es inmensamente superior, dada esa caracteristica por los trazos mas finos

[Talk-es] [epars...@google.com: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps]

2010-11-02 Thread Celso González
- Forwarded message from Ed Parsons epars...@google.com - Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 08:41:21 + From: Ed Parsons epars...@google.com To: t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.517 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00

[Talk-es] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Thread Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bueno, parece que las gestiones de Freddy (humano al revés :P) han llegado a buen término y google va a borrar esos datos pirateados. Saludos - Mensaje original Asunto: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps Fecha: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 08

Re: [Talk-es] [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Thread Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas
2010/11/2 Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas js...@osgeo.org: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bueno, parece que las gestiones de Freddy (humano al revés :P) han llegado a buen término y google va a borrar esos datos pirateados. Saludos Ups sorry no vi el correo de Celso Disculpad el

Re: [Talk-es] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Martes, 2 de Noviembre de 2010 11:59:33 Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas escribió: Bueno, parece que las gestiones de Freddy (humano al revés :P) han llegado a buen término y google va a borrar esos datos pirateados. La verdad es que Google se merece un aplauso por todo. Por contestar, por la

[OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Thread Emilie Laffray
...@google.com Date: 2 November 2010 08:41 Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps To: t...@openstreetmap.org Last week Steve Coast contacted us to let us know that he had identified what may have been OpenStreetMap data in Google Maps of Colombia. We investigated the matter and determined that one