Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-24 Thread Laurence Penney
Artem Pavlenko wrote: > You can also switch projections at high zoom levels. This certainly needs to be done. World-size projections, at least the new-fangled ones, are a bad choice for street maps, where the locally undistorted property of Mercator is ideal. I also propose we get tileservers t

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-24 Thread Artem Pavlenko
Hi Torsten, hi-res relief in marble : http://artem.dev.openstreetmap.org/files/ marble-srtm.jpg Cheers Artem On 24 Jan 2008, at 09:54, Torsten Rahn wrote: > On Wednesday 23 January 2008 15:53:31 Artem Pavlenko wrote: >> I will do later on tonight. Or you can use my data to test it >> yourself.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-23 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 23 Jan 2008, at 14:52, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Artem Pavlenko wrote: > >> Here is 'bad' example : http://artem.dev.openstreetmap.org/files/ >> marble-osm-bad.jpg - you can not read text at all. > > Is that really unprojected > It is due to re-sampling. Tiles are projected into Plate Ca

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-23 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 23 Jan 2008, at 14:35, Torsten Rahn wrote: >> This looks excellent. I see that there are some minor faults on >> the fonts. >> But for a "quick viewer" that Marble is and for the given >> projection it's a >> pretty good result already. >> That being said we plan to have different quality

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Artem Pavlenko wrote: > Here is 'bad' example : http://artem.dev.openstreetmap.org/files/ > marble-osm-bad.jpg - you can not read text at all. Is that really unprojected cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.ope

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-23 Thread Artem Pavlenko
> > What do you mean by magic? Just a zoom value where it looks good? Precisely :) > How do bad > and average zoom levels look like? Could you send me a screenshot > of "bad" > and "average" (or maybe put the tile data somewhere so I can > experiment > somewhat, too) :-) ? > Here is 'bad' e

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-23 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 23 Jan 2008, at 12:23, Torsten Rahn wrote: > Hi Artem, > > On Wednesday 23 January 2008 11:06:41 Artem Pavlenko wrote: >> Hi Torsten, >> Glad you like the screenshot. I'll post another one soon :) >> Yes, you're right mercator would be wasteful. When I got spare >> moment I'll try different t

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-23 Thread Artem Pavlenko
> > I guess ideally the size of the tile on the screen would match > about the size > of the original tile. You can also switch projections at high zoom levels. BTW, is it possible to use png for tiles? Is there magic xml param?? Artem ___ talk ma

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-23 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Jan 23, 2008 11:16 AM, Artem Pavlenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yep, you're right, Mercator is no help. > BTW, I rendered tiles (for marble) in Lat/Lon aka Geographic, Plate > Carre, equirectangular,cylindrical equidistant, unprojected etc. > Still, there are too many re-sampling artifacts.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-23 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 22 Jan 2008, at 22:18, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Jan 22, 2008 9:41 PM, Artem Pavlenko > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I wonder why geographical projection for tiles ? They look quite >> distorted when warped on sphere: >> http://artem.dev.openstreetmap.org/files/marble-osm.jpg >> Ma

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-22 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Jan 22, 2008 9:41 PM, Artem Pavlenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder why geographical projection for tiles ? They look quite > distorted when warped on sphere: > http://artem.dev.openstreetmap.org/files/marble-osm.jpg > Maybe spherical Mercator (same as in GMap) would produce better result

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-22 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 22 Jan 2008, at 20:55, Matt Williams wrote: > On Tuesday 22 January 2008 20:41:33 Artem Pavlenko wrote: >> On 22 Jan 2008, at 12:59, Torsten Rahn wrote: >>> "File -> Download New Data" (DXS) >>> >>> is one of the very few features that only get enabled if you >>> compile the KDE >>> version (i

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-22 Thread Matt Williams
On Tuesday 22 January 2008 20:41:33 Artem Pavlenko wrote: > On 22 Jan 2008, at 12:59, Torsten Rahn wrote: > > "File -> Download New Data" (DXS) > > > > is one of the very few features that only get enabled if you > > compile the KDE > > version (it's a KDE technology). While the MarbleWidget only >

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-22 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 22 Jan 2008, at 19:50, Matt Williams wrote: > On Tuesday 22 January 2008 11:26:53 Artem Pavlenko > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi Matt, >> >>> On Monday 21 January 2008 15:20:41 Andy Allan >>> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 21, 2008 10:56 AM, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-22 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 22 Jan 2008, at 12:59, Torsten Rahn wrote: > Seems my mail doesn't get immediately approved on OSM-talk, so > here's my > answer in private. In case of reply please CC me, as I'm not > subsribed to > OSM-talk. > >>> I'm on version 0.5 and I get the data by going to "File -> Download >>> Ne

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-22 Thread Jon Burgess
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 11:26 +, Artem Pavlenko wrote: > I'm on version 0.5 and I get the data by going to "File -> Download > > New > > Data..." and installing the Mapnik tiles. They can then be used by > > chosing "OSM Mapnik" in the "Map View" sidebar. > > Hmm... I compiled 0.6 from source

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-22 Thread Matt Williams
On Tuesday 22 January 2008 11:26:53 Artem Pavlenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Matt, > > > On Monday 21 January 2008 15:20:41 Andy Allan > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Jan 21, 2008 10:56 AM, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Marble already has the ability to download a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-22 Thread Artem Pavlenko
Hi Matt, > On Monday 21 January 2008 15:20:41 Andy Allan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Jan 21, 2008 10:56 AM, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Marble already has the ability to download a set of low quality >>> Mapnik >>> tiles (about z=8 or something I guess). >> >> Is this j

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-21 Thread Jon Burgess
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 10:56 +, Matt Williams wrote: > On Monday 21 January 2008 10:42:54 Andy Allan wrote: > > I think it's pretty impressive that for a multi-day KDE event, all > > about their new 4.0 release, that we get practically 5 entire minutes > > of their main keynote speech turned ov

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-21 Thread Matt Williams
On Monday 21 January 2008 15:20:41 Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 21, 2008 10:56 AM, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Marble already has the ability to download a set of low quality Mapnik > > tiles (about z=8 or something I guess). > > Is this just on development versio

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Jan 21, 2008 10:56 AM, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marble already has the ability to download a set of low quality Mapnik tiles > (about z=8 or something I guess). Is this just on development versions? I'm running Marble 0.4.0 here, but can't figure out if it can do what you say

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-21 Thread Matt Williams
On Monday 21 January 2008 10:42:54 Andy Allan wrote: > I think it's pretty impressive that for a multi-day KDE event, all > about their new 4.0 release, that we get practically 5 entire minutes > of their main keynote speech turned over to the promotion of OSM, > instead of promotion of KDE! It's n

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-21 Thread Andy Allan
I think it's pretty impressive that for a multi-day KDE event, all about their new 4.0 release, that we get practically 5 entire minutes of their main keynote speech turned over to the promotion of OSM, instead of promotion of KDE! It's not like we got mentioned in an incidental speech, or one abou

[OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-20 Thread Matt Williams
Aaron Seigo mentioned and did a wonderful bit of advertising for OSM during his keynote speech for the KDE4 release at the Google headquarters in Mountainview CA yesterday. The full video can be found at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6642148224800885420 but if you just want the OSM st