Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 02.07.2010 15:03, schrieb Nic Roets: I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796&lon=5.62046&zoom=15&layers=B000FTFT Nice work! As a motorcycle rider, I was a bit surprised

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-04 Thread John Smith
On 4 July 2010 22:17, john whelan wrote: > Rendering or routing? routing... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-04 Thread john whelan
Rendering or routing? Cheerio John > There is already plenty of tools for doing offline rendering, the > point of this was to put rendering on the OSM website... > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tal

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 July 2010 04:21, john whelan wrote: > Many users are only interested in the local city and not too worried about > having the latest version of the map. People have used three year old > printed maps quite happily for years and for foot, public transport and > cycling a cached map on the dev

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 July 2010 14:15, John Smith wrote: > On 4 July 2010 04:21, john whelan wrote: >> Many users are only interested in the local city and not too worried about >> having the latest version of the map. People have used three year old >> printed maps quite happily for years and for foot, public t

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread john whelan
Many users are only interested in the local city and not too worried about having the latest version of the map. People have used three year old printed maps quite happily for years and for foot, public transport and cycling a cached map on the device works fine most of the time. Render with some

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 July 2010 02:07, john whelan wrote: > I was only thinking of using the local computer resources for the local > user, not going cloud. For that specific problem you still have a large chunk of data to transfer before the local computer resource can do something useful with it, the bigger the

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread john whelan
I was only thinking of using the local computer resources for the local user, not going cloud. Cheerio John On 3 July 2010 12:03, John Smith wrote: > On 4 July 2010 01:46, john whelan wrote: > > Since a fair number of home computers pcs these days have quad cores, 6 > or > > more gigs of memor

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 July 2010 01:46, john whelan wrote: > Since a fair number of home computers pcs these days have quad cores, 6 or > more gigs of memory and 64 bit operating systems, perhaps it might make > sense to come up with a Windows stand alone solution and decentralise the > server computing requirement

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread john whelan
Since a fair number of home computers pcs these days have quad cores, 6 or more gigs of memory and 64 bit operating systems, perhaps it might make sense to come up with a Windows stand alone solution and decentralise the server computing requirements. Cheerio John On 2 July 2010 10:43, Tom Hughes

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread Maarten Deen
Maarten Deen wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Nic Roets wrote: I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796&lon=5.62046&zoom=15&layers=B000FTFT Although I have managed t

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Nic Roets wrote: I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796&lon=5.62046&zoom=15&layers=B000FTFT Although I have managed to get some routes, th

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Nic Roets
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Hillsman, Edward wrote: > I agree, this is great. A couple of quick observations. First, for some > reason, it won't work in Internet Explorer 8 on my machine. Clicking on the > link opens the webpage and OSM top and left sidebars, but displays no map or > option

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Liz
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010, Nic Roets wrote: > I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be > embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: > > http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796&lon=5.62046&zoom=15&; > layers=B000FTFT doesn't show up on Konqueror - i got a map with so

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Claudius
Am 02.07.2010 15:03, Nic Roets: I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796&lon=5.62046&zoom=15&layers=B000FTFT Great work. Thanks. Some feedback: - Sorting points in the "Rou

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Lambertus
Op 02-07-10 18:28, Richard Weait schreef: It may end up on the main page. It depends. Some say OSM "needs" routing on the front page to be "taken seriously". Others say putting user services like routing on the front page commits too many OSM resources to users, rather than contributors. In b

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Lambertus
Sincere congratulations Nic, with a job well done and quickly too! We all know that a first version will contain some bugs, but it already looks very promising and, by running this on a beefy developer machine, I hope you get the information needed to improve Gosmore even more. I also hope tha

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread simon
Of course, like everyone else I tested out a route between home and work (although not everyone gets to drive through rural Alberta). It seems that the 'shortest route' is managing to mine out a route via dusty sides streets and the like, however I would challenge the 'fastest route'. The 'fastest

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:56 AM, woll wrote: > > Is the idea that this demo will become the 'official' OSM routing system? > From the intro post, I can't quite make out if it is going to appear on the > OSM home page, or it is a 'private' demo. > > I know very little about the details/history of t

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Nic Roets
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:56 PM, woll wrote: > > Is the idea that this demo will become the 'official' OSM routing system? > From the intro post, I can't quite make out if it is going to appear on the > OSM home page, or it is a 'private' demo. The sys-admins must decide and that excludes me and t

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Mike N.
Mike N wrote: It should be noted that this is neither the shortest or fastest route, so there may need to be a new option? There's talk of several back end routing engines (Gosmore/etc), so I'm not sure if I should look at modifying one of these engines, or if I would need to add a new one? T

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread woll
Is the idea that this demo will become the 'official' OSM routing system? >From the intro post, I can't quite make out if it is going to appear on the OSM home page, or it is a 'private' demo. I know very little about the details/history of the various routing systems that use OSM, and nothing of

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Nic Roets wrote: I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796&lon=5.62046&zoom=15&layers=B000FTFT I have two issues with it: - in Firefox (3.6.3

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Jacek Konieczny
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 11:09:57AM -0400, Hillsman, Edward wrote: > Second, I asked for a bicycle route in my city (Tampa, Florida) and > received one that uses a motorway (high-speed limited access highway) Same here (Gliwice, Poland). > and none of the available streets that have cycleway=lane.

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Hillsman, Edward
:02 -0400 Richard Weait wrote: >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo >Message-ID: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Nic Roets wrote: >> I made a demonstration of how the yournaviga

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Nakor
On 7/2/2010 10:55 AM, Nic Roets wrote: So it you have a problem in Detroit, please zoom in as far as possible and give us that permalink. e.g. routing from http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/index.html?lat=42.492618&lon=-83.221961&zoom=18&layers=B000FTFTTT to http://nroets.dev.openst

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Nic Roets
The permalink in the info box doesn't work (yet), but you can use the permalink in the map to save the view. So it you have a problem in Detroit, please zoom in as far as possible and give us that permalink. The reverse and normal geocoding comes from nominatim, so you'll have to look on the wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Nakor
Woa that sounds very promising! A couple issues I found: * permalink does not work (always gives a view center on the UK). * locations filled in does not seems to work correctly (data issue?) e.g. if I click at 42.492985,-83.222165 the text shows Southfiled Rd, Berverly Hills, although this i

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Tom Hughes
On 02/07/10 15:30, Nic Roets wrote: As for the load: Most of the time Errol is using half a core right now and it has 16 ! I think when Richard did Amsterdam to Girona, most of the data was swapped out and he had to wait a few seconds for it to be swapped back in. Under full production we may ch

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Nic Roets
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Richard Weait wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Nic Roets wrote: >> > I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be >> > embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: >> > >> > >> > http:/

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Tom Hughes
On 02/07/10 14:58, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: That's great. I like the integration in the plus, but think that once this is going into productive mode we should put it into a tab on the top to make it more visible. Probably there will be a lot of interest in this feature. I'm afraid we have a

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 2 July 2010 14:58, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/7/2 Nic Roets : > > I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be > > embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: > > > > > http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796&lon=5.62046&zoom=15&layers=B000FTFT > > > Tha

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Mike N.
That's a fantastic demo - I agree about keeping it behind the '+' in the beginning. Lambertus pointed out that some bicycles routes take strange detours when the fastest option is chosen. I have a case where the most suitable path for foot/bike is a multiuse trail. I couldn't get it to fo

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/7/2 Nic Roets : > I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be > embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: > > http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796&lon=5.62046&zoom=15&layers=B000FTFT That's great. I like the integration in the plus, but think that once

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Richard Weait wrote: > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Nic Roets wrote: > > I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be > > embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: > > > > > http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796&lon=5.62046&

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Nic Roets wrote: > I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be > embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: > > http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796&lon=5.62046&zoom=15&layers=B000FTFT Nick, This is wonderful! I just did a "re

[OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Nic Roets
I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796&lon=5.62046&zoom=15&layers=B000FTFT As you can see, it is hidden inside '+' (the layers). There are two reasons for this: Firstly, I di