Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-07 Thread nicholas ingalls
I second that it should stay brown! There are way to many green objects and we don't want it confused with the grass tag. My vote would be to play around with the brown color. I certainly agree that it currently isn't the best. Cheers, ingalls On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Lennard

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-07 Thread Philip Barnes
Green grass would be useful to differentiate between pasture and use a lighter brown for arable fields. Not much farmland is tagged at present, but I it was envisage the map becoming largely brown which will not be attractive. Most areas that are currently default background are in reality

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-07 Thread Aun Yngve Johnsen
Aun Johnsen On 7. jan. 2013, at 15:48, talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: . Most areas that are currently default background are in reality farmland. Phil (trigpoint) Not true, most untagged areas are either some form of wilderness, farmlands, or on some rare occurances tagged with

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-06 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 6 January 2013 01:54, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: I prefer landuse areas to be darker than the default light gray background color in the Standard rendering. This makes it obvious (especially on LCD screens where lightness/luminance of colors vary depending on the viewing

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-06 Thread Rob Nickerson
Thanks for the initial feedback. I also had one off list in support of the light green. Please keep them coming. I will play with a couple more shades this evening and post an update. Rob On Sunday, 6 January 2013, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: I prefer landuse areas to be darker

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-06 Thread Philip Barnes
When using OSM on my phone, windscreen mount, whilst driving I find the biggest contrast problem is the green of forests can mask the green of trunk roads, where the road passes through forest Would be nice is the forest green could be lighter. Phil (trigpoint)

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-06 Thread NopMap
Rob Nickerson wrote This has led to a discussion about how the rendering 'looks' with some arguing that it doesn't look that good. I believe that this may be due to the shade of colour used – specifically the farmland 'brown' is not as luminous as the default 'grey'. +1 What's more: The

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-06 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2013-01-06 at 05:19 -0800, NopMap wrote: Rob Nickerson wrote This has led to a discussion about how the rendering 'looks' with some arguing that it doesn't look that good. I believe that this may be due to the shade of colour used – specifically the farmland 'brown' is not as

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-06 Thread Cartinus
On 01/06/2013 02:34 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: I would prefer to simply see the field boundaries mapped and unless there is some way to distinguish between arable and pasture then farmland does not really offer much that isn't obvious. That's why a lot of people use farm(land) only for arable

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-06 Thread Dave F.
Hi Farmyards are about the right shade. Fields eg landuse=farmland is slight too dark could do with lightening. My preference would be to still with a brown rather than a green (far too many items are already green - sports pitches are too dark IMO). On a related topic; if a field has a

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-06 Thread Lennard
On 6-1-2013 15:51, Dave F. wrote: On a related topic; if a field has a barrier tag it changes colour rendering at zoom 16: That's because having a landuse on it as well pushes it into the polygon table. It's subsequently rendered as a barrier area, ie. with the barrier=hedge fill. --

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough? Updated Proposals

2013-01-06 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi all, Thanks for the feedback. I have tested some other shades: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6J5ZA1hu93bMzVMQ1Z1SHFqcmM Any additional comments are very welcome. Rob On 5 January 2013 22:18, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, (full text and images at

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough? Updated Proposals

2013-01-06 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 6 January 2013 19:13, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback. I have tested some other shades: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6J5ZA1hu93bMzVMQ1Z1SHFqcmM I think the first of the new ones under Update 1 (lighter brown; same lightness as landuse=residential)

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-06 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 6 January 2013 01:54, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: I prefer landuse areas to be darker than the default light gray background color in the Standard rendering. This makes it obvious (especially on LCD screens where lightness/luminance of colors vary depending on the viewing

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-06 Thread John Aldridge
On 06/01/2013 10:13, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On 6 January 2013 01:54, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: In the first proposal, I find it very difficult to see the difference between the farmland and the non-tagged areas. It's a bit easier in the second proposal. It could

[OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-05 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi All, (full text and images at https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6J5ZA1hu93bYm9IWXdlVHM1N1U ) Recently landuse=farmland (or simply landuse=farm) has been added to fields near me. This has led to a discussion about how the rendering 'looks' with some arguing that it doesn't look that good. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-05 Thread Rob Nickerson
I should add that if you want to play with Hue, Saturation and Lightness (HSL) and Luminance then the following is a good place to start: http://www.workwithcolor.com/hsl-color-picker-01.htm Rob ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?

2013-01-05 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I prefer landuse areas to be darker than the default light gray background color in the Standard rendering. This makes it obvious (especially on LCD screens where lightness/luminance of colors vary depending on the viewing angle) that there is a tagged area there. You could make the case that the