Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-26 Thread steve . barkto
Paul, I hope your truck is recovered in good condition. My perception of Amazon edits is overwhelmingly positive. I see the same types of mistakes, but those mistakes are one the same level or less than traditional craft mappers. On the plus side, they are neatly solving the last mile

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-22 Thread Greg Troxel
Yes, but I mean cases when it is obviously, from imagery and land use, a single family house driveway. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-22 Thread Greg Troxel
Yes, but I mean cases when it is obviously, from imagery and land use, a single family house driveway. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-22 Thread Andrew Hain
When you aren’t sure of the exact nature of a service road it makes perfect sense to leave out the service= tag. If that makes it more prominent it’s the fault of the renderer. -- Andrew From: Greg Troxel Sent: 22 March 2020 16:46 To: Dave F Cc: Dave F via

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-22 Thread Greg Troxel
Dave F writes: > On 21/03/2020 20:59, Greg Troxel wrote: >> >> This really seems unfair. >> >> When someone maps for OSM because they want to, they have goals and a >> typically a good attitude about community norms. >> >> When someone is a a paid mapper, their goals come from the person who is

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-22 Thread Greg Troxel
Dave F writes: > On 21/03/2020 20:59, Greg Troxel wrote: >> >> This really seems unfair. >> >> When someone maps for OSM because they want to, they have goals and a >> typically a good attitude about community norms. >> >> When someone is a a paid mapper, their goals come from the person who is

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-22 Thread Dave F via talk
On 21/03/2020 21:11, Paul Johnson wrote: Anybody paid to contribute to OSM *must* be capable of setting the example, as far as I'm concerned. There appears to be some kind of snobbery infiltrating OSM. Very disappointing. DaveF ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-22 Thread Dave F via talk
On 21/03/2020 20:59, Greg Troxel wrote: This really seems unfair. When someone maps for OSM because they want to, they have goals and a typically a good attitude about community norms. When someone is a a paid mapper, their goals come from the person who is paying them, and they don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 3:59 PM Greg Troxel wrote: > Dave F via talk writes: > > > In my area, AL are adding legitimate data which helps improve the > > quality of the OSM database. I believe they make the same amount of > > errors as any other contributors, including experienced ones. > > > >

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 3:59 PM Greg Troxel wrote: > Dave F via talk writes: > > > In my area, AL are adding legitimate data which helps improve the > > quality of the OSM database. I believe they make the same amount of > > errors as any other contributors, including experienced ones. > > > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 9:36 AM Dave F wrote: > In my area, AL are adding legitimate data which helps improve the quality > of the OSM database. I believe they make the same amount of errors as any > other contributors, including experienced ones. > > Unsure why he thinks OSMF should be keeping

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 9:36 AM Dave F wrote: > In my area, AL are adding legitimate data which helps improve the quality > of the OSM database. I believe they make the same amount of errors as any > other contributors, including experienced ones. > > Unsure why he thinks OSMF should be keeping

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Dave F via talk writes: > In my area, AL are adding legitimate data which helps improve the > quality of the OSM database. I believe they make the same amount of > errors as any other contributors, including experienced ones. > > Unsure why he thinks OSMF should be keeping an eye on contributors

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Dave F via talk writes: > In my area, AL are adding legitimate data which helps improve the > quality of the OSM database. I believe they make the same amount of > errors as any other contributors, including experienced ones. > > Unsure why he thinks OSMF should be keeping an eye on contributors

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 11:37 AM Jmapb wrote: > I try to keep an eye on them and fix the errors and the most egregious > road geometry. When I leave changeset comments, they generally reply, > but there are so many of them that it feels like trying to cook rice one > grain at a time. Very much

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-21 Thread Jmapb
On 3/21/2020 10:37 AM, Dave F via talk wrote: In my area, AL are adding legitimate data which helps improve the quality of the OSM database. I believe they make the same amount of errors as any other contributors, including experienced ones. Unsure why he thinks OSMF should be keeping an eye on

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-21 Thread Dave F via talk
In my area, AL are adding legitimate data which helps improve the quality of the OSM database. I believe they make the same amount of errors as any other contributors, including experienced ones. Unsure why he thinks OSMF should be keeping an eye on contributors purely because they're paid. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 6:07 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > 3) Amazon Logistics and a revolving door team of one-edit-and-done spam > accounts keeps throwing paid contributions into Oklahoma that are of poorly > aligned, largely fictional and low quality. I'm stuck cleaning up in a > neglected part

[OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-20 Thread Paul Johnson
So, you all know at this point that I've been heavily invested in editing OSM and contributing to my maximum activity, less as a need to help a charity and more of an obligation to the public to do the most good with the short time I have on this planet. However, I've had a few events come up