Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-11 Thread hanoj
I have idea about relative positioned node on the line (crossing, bus_stop, railway stops) object with no direct relation to geometry, but with topology relation. Currently I describe it even in a step further. Imagine that you could contraint lines based on these properties; for example

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/6/11 hanoj eha...@gmail.com: I have idea about relative positioned node on the line (crossing, bus_stop, railway stops) object with no direct relation to geometry, but with topology relation. Currently I describe it even in a step further. Imagine that you could contraint lines based

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-10 Thread hanoj
Hi! I have idea about relative positioned node on the line (crossing, bus_stop, railway stops) object with no direct relation to geometry, but with topology relation. Legend: x node o relative node way IDEA object model: x--o--o-ox API 0.7 x-- x-

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-10 Thread Stefan de Konink
hanoj wrote: I have idea about relative positioned node on the line (crossing, bus_stop, railway stops) object with no direct relation to geometry, but with topology relation. Currently I describe it even in a step further. Imagine that you could contraint lines based on these properties; for

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I guess you are talking about the pantheon (the parthenon is in Athens) What an embarassment ;-) you're right of course. I was thinking of Rome not Greece. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-09 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/6/9 Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de: Hi! Dave Stubbs schrieb: Which just tells you those aren't the appropriate tags of which matt speaks. Careful selection of tags means that nothing existing needs to change, unless it's to make life easier for the user by adding filtering features. That is

[OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
I want to suggest the following feature to the next API : valid_per tag supported - API will return only data of which the valid_per argument evaluates to TRUE - A standard delete action may just set the expire_per tag to expired per today. The tags will need some regular expressions

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: I want to suggest the following feature to the next API : The API must be kept simple. I agree that lifecycle support needs improvement but the API is not the place to implement such specific rules. The API is, and should remain, first

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Peter Dörrie
Whatever you say. I dont have the hacking chops needed to fully understand the APi and how it works. But I am really interested in seeing some form of lifespan feature implemented in OSM. So it would be grate if this discussion makes some progress in getting closer to that goal. Greetings, Peter

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Matt Amos
2009/6/8 Peter Dörrie peter.doer...@googlemail.com: Whatever you say. I dont have the hacking chops needed to fully understand the APi and how it works. But I am really interested in seeing some form of lifespan feature implemented in OSM. So it would be grate if this discussion makes some

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Peter Dörrie
as frederik says, it doesn't need to be implemented in the API - all of it can already be done client-side using the appropriate tags*. Well several Users made the point that this would break all applications that exist today, as they would be useless in their current state. The current JOSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Peter Dörrie wrote: The current renderes wouldn't be able to handle it either and forcing 50+ applications to change would be unappropriate. Why, we're doing that all the time ;-) There are many unsolved questions here. For example: What happens if parts of the ancient world transcend

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/6/8 Peter Dörrie peter.doer...@googlemail.com: as frederik says, it doesn't need to be implemented in the API - all of it can already be done client-side using the appropriate tags*. Well several Users made the point that this would break all applications that exist today, as they

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread MP
I thought of another wanter feature for 0.7 API Retrieving deleted objects, similarly like it is done in potlatch. Currently only potlatch can do this and since potlatch does not work well with larger areas (it is way too slow) and does not support many features that JOSM have (WMS, plugins,

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
MP wrote: Currently only potlatch can do this and since potlatch does not work well with larger areas (it is way too slow) and does not support many features that JOSM have (WMS, plugins, loading/saving to disk, gpx tracks, gpx waypoints ) Well, apart from the GPX tracks (which it

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Peter Dörrie
2009/6/8 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Hi, Peter Dörrie wrote: The current renderes wouldn't be able to handle it either and forcing 50+ applications to change would be unappropriate. Why, we're doing that all the time ;-) Yeah I thought so too, but this was one of the main

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Maarten Deen
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Peter Dörrie wrote: The current renderes wouldn't be able to handle it either and forcing 50+ applications to change would be unappropriate. Why, we're doing that all the time ;-) There are many unsolved questions here. For example: What happens if parts of

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Matt Amos
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:17 PM, MPsingular...@gmail.com wrote: I thought of another wanter feature for 0.7 API Retrieving deleted objects, similarly like it is done in potlatch. Currently only potlatch can do this and since potlatch does not work well with larger areas (it is way too slow)

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Matt Amos
2009/6/8 Peter Dörrie peter.doer...@googlemail.com: 2009/6/8 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org There are many unsolved questions here. For example: What happens if parts of the ancient world transcend your fourth dimension, e.g. a contemporary secondary road uses a few bits of an ancient Roman

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Matt Amos
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote: I guess this has the potential to be hellishly complex but also fun. i guess we've just got different ideas of what fun is... i agree about the hellish part, though ;-) cheers, matt

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Ed Loach
But it opens a large can of worms if you are looking at temporal information. All SciFi books can tell you that. What, like a child node might risk becoming it's own grandfather node? Ed ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I was actually trying to suggest that it might, in some cases, really make sense for things to be shared between the then and the now. If you take the Parthenon in Rome, then the geometry should be pretty much the same

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/6/8 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: I was actually trying to suggest that it might, in some cases, really make sense for things to be shared between the then and the now. If you take the Parthenon in Rome, then the geometry should be pretty much the same between now and ancient times,