On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Honestly, I don't know if speed bumps would come into play or not. I kind
of assume there wouldn't be a primary road which has speed bumps, but I'm
willing to be proven wrong on that. Furthermore, there might not be any
road
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
That said, I personally find the highway tagging guidelines difficult to
apply anyway. In states without formal legal road classifications we might
as
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:34 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/12/29 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
What's so important about traffic_calming tags? True, they will affect
accurate trip time planning, but is that it?
He's assuming it's a objective way to map
(e.g. a road with speed bumps is never a primary)
You've obviously never been to Mexico City.
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I'm afraid I wasn't mapping that day, but on a minibus jaunt out to San Andrés
Mixquic from la Ciudad (in order to celebrate the Day of the Dead) we slowed
down to about 5 mph for speed humps many times, several times on dual
carriageways!
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On 29 Dec 2009, at 18:22, Anthony wrote:
On
2009/12/27 Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
In Australia there is this legacy speed limit sign for people with
racing licenses that they can drive any speed they wish, everyone else
is limited to 100, how exactly do you map that? (and I saw one
2009/12/29 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
in Germany there is indeed no speed limit (Ende aller Streckenverbote
translates to end of all restrictions) after this sign (on motorways and
dual cariageways outside town limits), so there was a proposal for a tag
some time ago, which
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
That said, I personally find the highway tagging guidelines difficult to
apply anyway. In states without formal legal road classifications we might
as well mark everything except motorways and service roads as road for all
I can
2009/12/29 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
What's so important about traffic_calming tags? True, they will affect
accurate trip time planning, but is that it?
He's assuming it's a objective way to map residential streets, main
through fares generally don't have traffic calming devices.
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
In Australia there is this legacy speed limit sign for people with
racing licenses that they can drive any speed they wish, everyone else
is limited to 100, how exactly do you map that? (and I saw one such
sign only the day before yesterday).
2009/12/27 Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com:
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
In Australia there is this legacy speed limit sign for people with
racing licenses that they can drive any speed they wish, everyone else
is limited to 100, how exactly do you map that? (and I saw one
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote:
As long as you know the state default speed limit, this is easy to
tag. It is exactly the same as a sign with that limit.
If so, just remember to indicate the source as discussed at:
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
In Australia there is this legacy speed limit sign for people with
racing licenses that they can drive any speed they wish, everyone else
is limited to 100, how exactly do you map that? (and I saw one such
sign only the day before yesterday).
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Anthony wrote:
I suppose all
the bicyclists in OSM would disagree with that, but they don't have much
use for primary/secondary/tertiary designations either, do they?
Of course we do, we want to avoid certain roads
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote:
Mind you, I have no idea why these signs still exist, since I don't
think there is anywhere in Australia you can legally go faster than
130km/hr these days.
Has the NT put a standard speed limit on last?
It changes policy with each change in government
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Anthony wrote:
I suppose all
the bicyclists in OSM would disagree with that, but they don't have much
use for primary/secondary/tertiary designations either, do they?
Of course we do, we want to avoid
wrongly is better than not to
think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria
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From: Anthony o...@inbox.org
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:08:00
To: Lized...@billiau.net
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Anthony wrote:
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Anthony wrote:
I suppose all
the bicyclists in OSM would disagree with that, but they don't have
much use for primary/secondary/tertiary designations either, do they?
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
We want to avoid roads with too much traffic.
None of these maps are going to check for hills
It doesn't matter whose definition of primary/secondary/tertiary
because the object is ride on the lower grade roads having
I gather the convention is to mark any unsurveyed road which one has some
information as simply highway=road, on the basis that you know nothing
else about it. But what about when the information comes from high quality
imagery (like nearmap in australia)? I've been mapping these as
2009/12/27 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
I gather the convention is to mark any unsurveyed road which one has some
information as simply highway=road, on the basis that you know nothing
else about it. But what about when the information comes from high quality
imagery (like nearmap in
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
I gather the convention is to mark any unsurveyed road which one has some
information as simply highway=road, on the basis that you know nothing
else about it.
Looking at the highway tagging guidelines for Australia (
2009/12/27 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
That said, I personally find the highway tagging guidelines difficult to
apply anyway. In states without formal legal road classifications we might
as well mark everything except motorways and service roads as road for all
I can tell. Anything else is just
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:56 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
It isn't the most objective way to do things, but then it's going to
be subjective somewhere, the only difference is if you make the
decision or someone in council does.
I'm perfectly fine with letting the people in
2009/12/27 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
I have this insane theory that if the renderers just outright refused to
color roads without speed limit tags, these tags would get added a lot
quicker. Once you have roads and speed limits, the question of which roads
are the quickest way to go usually can
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
In Australia there is this legacy speed limit sign for people with
racing licenses that they can drive any speed they wish, everyone else
is limited to 100, how exactly do you map that? (and I saw one such
sign only the day before yesterday).
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:39 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
In Australia there is this legacy speed limit sign for people with
racing licenses that they can drive any speed they wish, everyone else
is limited to 100, how
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
I'm perfectly fine with letting the people in council waste their time with
subjective categorization and then either 1) copying the results, if they
have some sort of legal distinction; or 2) ignoring them altogether, if they
2009/12/27 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:39 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
In Australia there is this legacy speed limit sign for people with
racing licenses that they can drive any speed they wish,
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
2009/12/27 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:39 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
In Australia there is this legacy speed limit sign for people with
racing
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