Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-08 Thread David Earl
On 08/05/2008 13:04, Robin Paulson wrote: > 2008/5/8 David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> It really, really doesn't matter what the names of tags are for how the >> system works. They might as well be wibble=wobble for the difference it >> makes. They are useful as memory joggers, but really no more.

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-08 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:11 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But we are where we are, > and it would be a massive distraction to change the method > now. (We could build translations on top of what's there now though). [..] > If you want to apply tags, you really, really must read the M

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-08 Thread elvin ibbotson
in British law and he did need permission :-( From: "Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 8 May 2008 11:56:25 BDT To: "'Robin Paulson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Erik Johansson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-08 Thread David Earl
On 08/05/2008 12:52, Erik Johansson wrote: > Try not to fall in the trap of being Commonwealth centric. Tags, > words, language are only what people think they are, the definition is > only secondary. You wont start thinking northen cyprus is Turkish just > because all street names have been such i

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-08 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/5/8 David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It really, really doesn't matter what the names of tags are for how the > system works. They might as well be wibble=wobble for the difference it > makes. They are useful as memory joggers, but really no more. So long as > the meaning is understood (i.e. w

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-08 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:02 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sure in due course we'll get language specific ways of adding data, in > which case the underlying name of the tag will be irrelevant anyway. I think we are stuck with highway forever, because everyone want renderable map

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-08 Thread David Earl
On 08/05/2008 11:43, Erik Johansson wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Shaun McDonald > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you don't think that brownfield and greenfield are good tags then don't >> use them. > > Brownfield is a field that is brown, that means brown grass. So large > areas of

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-08 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Robin Paulson wrote: >Sent: 07 May 2008 9:35 PM >To: Erik Johansson >Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking > >2008/5/7 Erik Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> True, But I think landuse=brownfield should be banned, and all 300 >

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-08 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Shaun McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you don't think that brownfield and greenfield are good tags then don't > use them. Brownfield is a field that is brown, that means brown grass. So large areas of grass that are brown most of the year. That's the firs

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/5/8 Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > yes, it is a strange choice. it leads to irrationalities like > > highway=footway and highway=cycleway > > why we're not using right_of_way=motorway|primary|cycleway|footway| > > and so on, i don't know > > Generally "right of way" is a legal

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Robin Paulson wrote: > yes, it is a strange choice. it leads to irrationalities like > highway=footway and highway=cycleway > why we're not using right_of_way=motorway|primary|cycleway|footway| > and so on, i don't know Generally "right of way" is a legal term. It defines a way by the class of u

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 7 May 2008, at 21:34, Robin Paulson wrote: > 2008/5/7 Erik Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> True, But I think landuse=brownfield should be banned, and all 300 >> ways tagged as such should be renamed to landuse=development & >> demolition. > > it's pretty uk-centric i agree; along with a lot

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/5/7 Erik Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > True, But I think landuse=brownfield should be banned, and all 300 > ways tagged as such should be renamed to landuse=development & > demolition. it's pretty uk-centric i agree; along with a lot of the tags in osm actually, i think the whole land

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Matt Williams
On Wednesday 07 May 2008 08:10:02 Robin Paulson wrote: > 2008/5/7 Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I am a newbie to OSM, and am trying to mark up a golf course. I have > > gone through (and added some remarks to) the proposal here: http:// > > wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:17 AM, robin paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i mapped things that had a tag already, until i > understood the system. then i started proposing tags But if you never use them you are never going to understand the problems with them. Real life mapping is so different

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread robin paulson
Erik Johansson wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> that golf course proposal looks a way off being complete, maybe wait >> till it is resolved and passes through voting? or join in the >> discussion and make some suggestions yourself > > Why wait

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread robin paulson
Erik Johansson wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> that golf course proposal looks a way off being complete, maybe wait >> till it is resolved and passes through voting? or join in the >> discussion and make some suggestions yourself > > Why wait

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread robin paulson
Erik Johansson wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> that golf course proposal looks a way off being complete, maybe wait >> till it is resolved and passes through voting? or join in the >> discussion and make some suggestions yourself > > Why wait

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that golf course proposal looks a way off being complete, maybe wait > till it is resolved and passes through voting? or join in the > discussion and make some suggestions yourself Why wait, if you never tag something yo

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/5/7 Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am a newbie to OSM, and am trying to mark up a golf course. I have > gone through (and added some remarks to) the proposal here: http:// > wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Golf_course, but > could not understand exactly how t

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-06 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I am a newbie to OSM, and am trying to mark up a golf course. I have > gone through (and added some remarks to) the proposal here: http:// > wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Golf_course, but

[OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-06 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
Hi, I am a newbie to OSM, and am trying to mark up a golf course. I have gone through (and added some remarks to) the proposal here: http:// wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Golf_course, but could not understand exactly how to implement it. So I tried with using existing k