Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-19 Thread Lester Caine
paul youlten wrote: The difference between pubs and restaurants is a getting a bit blurred. But not so much between pubs and cafes. In the UK pubs have to be licenced with the local council and usually have restricted opening hours (i.e: they are not normally allowed to sell alcohol before

[OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Ben Laenen
Hi all, I'm wondering what in English language the exact difference is between http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tag:amenity=pub and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tag:amenity=cafe I always thought they were the same thing... So, how do you decide whether a place is a café or

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Pete Lawrence
Hello, Pubs tend to be more centred around alcoholic drinks, typically busiest during the evenings. Whereas cafe's tend to be more centred around food during the day time. In the UK it is pretty easy to distinguish between the two, elsewhere the distinction may not be as clear cut.

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Ben Laenen
On Saturday 18 October 2008, Pete Lawrence wrote: Hello, Pubs tend to be more centred around alcoholic drinks, typically busiest during the evenings. Whereas cafe's tend to be more centred around food during the day time. In the UK it is pretty easy to distinguish between the two,

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Sábado, 18 de Octubre de 2008, Pete Lawrence escribió: Restaurants v's cafe's are probably more likely to be mixed up. It's easy, actually: dedicated kitchen area or not. -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] You get along very well with everyone

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Matt Amos
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El Sábado, 18 de Octubre de 2008, Pete Lawrence escribió: Restaurants v's cafe's are probably more likely to be mixed up. It's easy, actually: dedicated kitchen area or not. there are several cafes near me with

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Tim Waters (chippy)
But I've been in many cafes with no dedicated kitchens (Starbucks, for instance). And a lot of pubs with dedicated kitchens. A pub's main revenue comes from the booze. Many of them are closing down their kitchens to save money. Some pubs have a tiny bar, and most of it is a restaurant - so called

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread paul youlten
The difference between pubs and restaurants is a getting a bit blurred. But not so much between pubs and cafes. In the UK pubs have to be licenced with the local council and usually have restricted opening hours (i.e: they are not normally allowed to sell alcohol before 11am). They also have to

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, paul youlten wrote: The difference between pubs and restaurants is a getting a bit blurred. But not so much between pubs and cafes. [interesting details] If a cafe or restaurant wants to sell alcohol they have to apply for a licence just like a pub or a restaurant. Are there still

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread paul youlten
The UK licencing laws only apply to selling alcohol; so if the cafe or restaurant is not licenced you can take your own wine (sometimes even if they do have a licence you can ask them if it is OK to bring your own bottle of wine) and while they cannot charge you for the drink they can charge you

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Dermot McNally
2008/10/18 Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are there still proper restaurants in the UK without a license? Can you then bring your own alcoholic beverages and have them served? I read something about a corking fee related to this, but this may well have been from 20 years ago. This

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hi, paul youlten wrote: The difference between pubs and restaurants is a getting a bit blurred. But not so much between pubs and cafes. [interesting details] If a cafe or restaurant wants to sell alcohol they have to apply for a licence just like a pub or a

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread paul youlten
Dermot said: This situation used to be very common in Birmingham on the Balti Mile. There, Indian restaurants offering affordable (and tasty) food traditionally did not have licences. I always assumed that this was because most Balti Houses/Indian Restaurants are run by Bangladeshi Muslims

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Dermot McNally
2008/10/18 paul youlten [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dermot said: This situation used to be very common in Birmingham on the Balti Mile. There, Indian restaurants offering affordable (and tasty) food traditionally did not have licences. I always assumed that this was because most Balti Houses/Indian