Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-09 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Cartinus schrieb: But when routing for pedestrians, you will want to be able to reach the bus stops. This and the rest is very valid reasoning. Therefore I also convinced that bus_stops deserve a node besides the road. -- Karl Eichwalder ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-09 Thread Lester Caine
graham wrote: Steve Hill wrote: How are people tagging bus stops? I have been setting tagging nodes that are members of the way, which means they are part of the road they are on. Is this the right way to do it? It seems right since it unambiguously shows which road the stop is on, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-09 Thread Jo
Lester Caine schreef: graham wrote: Steve Hill wrote: How are people tagging bus stops? I have been setting tagging nodes that are members of the way, which means they are part of the road they are on. Is this the right way to do it? It seems right since it unambiguously shows

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-09 Thread Steve Hill
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Niclas Andersson wrote: I've always used a node in the way to represent a bus stop. This works fine when there's a stop on each side of the road. Otherwise I've made use of the bus_direction=(N|S|E|W) tag (from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Buses ) on the node to

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-09 Thread Steve Hill
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Cartinus wrote: Up till now I used the node in the road method. But lately I have been thinking about how routing applications would use osm data. I doubt bus companies will be using osm to route their busses. But when routing for pedestrians, you will want to be able to

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-09 Thread Steve Hill
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Steve Hill wrote: I think this is the one I was thinking of: http://www.transportdirect.info No, sorry, it was probably http://www.traveline.org.uk/ - Steve xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nexusuk.org/ Servatis a periculum, servatis

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-09 Thread Nick
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a difficult problem - I can't think of any way to tell (from existing data) whether a road is safe to cross without an explicit pedestrian crossing. You can't just go on whether it is primary, secondary, etc - there are

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-09 Thread Lester Caine
Nick wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a difficult problem - I can't think of any way to tell (from existing data) whether a road is safe to cross without an explicit pedestrian crossing. You can't just go on whether it is primary,

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-08 Thread Steve Hill
How are people tagging bus stops? I have been setting tagging nodes that are members of the way, which means they are part of the road they are on. Is this the right way to do it? It seems right since it unambiguously shows which road the stop is on, but it doesn't allow any indication as to

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-08 Thread Steve Chilton
/cartographers08/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Burgess Sent: 06 April 2008 13:26 To: Steven te Brinke Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 13:38 +0200, Steven te Brinke wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-08 Thread graham
Steve Hill wrote: How are people tagging bus stops? I have been setting tagging nodes that are members of the way, which means they are part of the road they are on. Is this the right way to do it? It seems right since it unambiguously shows which road the stop is on, but it doesn't allow

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-08 Thread Steve Hill
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, graham wrote: I have mapped quite a few bus stops where the bus stop is on a pedestrian island and I want to show not only 'side of road' but also a fairly exact physical position. I'd be reluctant to give that up to plonk all my bus stops in the middle of the road...

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-08 Thread Niclas Andersson
graham wrote: I've been doing the opposite, and have only recently realised that your way is the way I was supposed to do it.. I have mapped quite a few bus stops where the bus stop is on a pedestrian island and I want to show not only 'side of road' but also a fairly exact physical

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-08 Thread Cartinus
On Tuesday 08 April 2008 14:53:40 graham wrote: Steve Hill wrote: How are people tagging bus stops? I have been setting tagging nodes that are members of the way, which means they are part of the road they are on. Is this the right way to do it? It seems right since it unambiguously

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-06 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, The current mapnik rules will render amenity=bus_stop, but the map features define it as amenity=bus_station. highway=bus_stop: A small bus stop. Larger stations should be tagged as amenity=bus_station instead. Best regards, ce ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-06 Thread Matt Williams
On Sunday 06 April 2008 12:38:59 Steven te Brinke wrote: Hello, The current mapnik rules will render amenity=bus_stop, but the map features define it as amenity=bus_station. Well, in my mind a bus stop and a bus station are different amenities. A bus stop is just a place where the bus will

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Matt Williams schrieb: On Sunday 06 April 2008 12:38:59 Steven te Brinke wrote: Hello, The current mapnik rules will render amenity=bus_stop, but the map features define it as amenity=bus_station. Well, in my mind a bus stop and a bus station are different amenities. A bus stop

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-06 Thread Jon Burgess
On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 13:38 +0200, Steven te Brinke wrote: Hello, The current mapnik rules will render amenity=bus_stop, but the map features define it as amenity=bus_station. Steven I seem to remember that the rendering for amenity=bus_stop was put in because it was in use prior to the