Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-10-13 Thread Pierre Béland
Hi Frederik The Overpass query shows me this morning that with your last redaction the names are back for the 620 highways. Thanks   Pierre Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017 13:08:42 HAE, Pierre Béland a écrit : Re-visiting this changeset I see that of the 620 ways

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-10-11 Thread Pierre Béland
Re-visiting this changeset I see that of the 620 ways with tag "source:name"="geobase.ca", 552 ways have no name restored. See for example way  32798176 where I validated the name + added source:name Overpass query http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/sh6 Pierre Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-10-11 Thread Pierre Béland
Great, thanks Frederik.   Pierre Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017 11:26:35 HAE, Frederik Ramm a écrit : Hi, On 10.10.2017 03:16, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I still have the raw data and I'll write a quick script > that finds these cases and restores the names. Should

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-10-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10.10.2017 03:16, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I still have the raw data and I'll write a quick script > that finds these cases and restores the names. Should be done here https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52829433 Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ##

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-10-09 Thread Pierre Béland
Thanks  Pierre Le lundi 9 octobre 2017 21:16:19 HAE, Frederik Ramm a écrit : Hi, On 10/10/2017 02:54 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: > Hi  Frederik, as a bad armchar mapper, I have revised  the Quebec > highway names before redaction, validating names with an

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-10-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/10/2017 02:54 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: > Hi Frederik, as a bad armchar mapper, I have revised the Quebec > highway names before redaction, validating names with an acceptable > source + adding source:name=geobase.ca. I took some precautions to "save" names; if you have indeed

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-10-09 Thread Pierre Béland
Hi  Frederik, as a bad armchar mapper, I have revised  the Quebec highway names before redaction, validating names with an acceptable source + adding source:name=geobase.ca. After redaction, names are removed + even if I try to re-import - review all the conflicts throug JOSM, I loose all my

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-10-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 27.09.2017 21:49, Martijn van Exel wrote: > That is helpful. Let us know when you have re-executed the analysis and > posted the results. http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/chdr.details A new list (CSV file) with way id, coordinates, and country/state/county information. I've eliminated

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-09-27 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi Frederik, That is helpful. Let us know when you have re-executed the analysis and posted the results. A list of IDs per county would be helpful. We can work together as US community to identify viable sources for re-assessing the correct names, as well as organizing mapping efforts for

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-09-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 27.09.2017 06:43, Martijn van Exel wrote: > In your email from Aug 28 you proposed to wait a while as a first step > to gather some feedback on your assessment. Did you receive any? When do > you think you want to proceed with the redaction? Anything we can do to > help? I haven't

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-09-26 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi Frederik, In your email from Aug 28 you proposed to wait a while as a first step to gather some feedback on your assessment. Did you receive any? When do you think you want to proceed with the redaction? Anything we can do to help? I can assist with preparing the MapRoulette challenge to

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-09-19 Thread Greg Morgan
On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Bianca Hambasan wrote: > Hi, > > > > We, the map analysts team from Telenav started editing in Phoenix by > adding and reviewing the road geometry and road name, so we found this > issue too. In our area of interest, we found about 5

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-09-08 Thread Bianca Hambasan
Hi, We, the map analysts team from Telenav started editing in Phoenix by adding and reviewing the road geometry and road name, so we found this issue too. In our area of interest, we found about 5 200 ways with this tag. We want to help with this since we already edit in the area. Do you have

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr (Spain)

2017-08-30 Thread alan_gr
Thanks Frederik - I will pass that on to talk-es. My next question was going to be about name:xx, but you beat me to it! -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Redacting-75-000-street-names-contributed-by-user-chdr-tp5901701p5901775.html Sent from the General

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr (Spain)

2017-08-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 30.08.2017 09:29, alan_gr wrote: > However there is confusion about the process. Several mappers on talk-es > think that if the name of the affected streets can be verified using the > cadastre ahead of time, this will avoid them being deleted. Some mappers > have already started checking

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr (Spain)

2017-08-30 Thread alan_gr
(I will continue in Nelson's thread as my post also relates to a specific "other country") The impact on Spain is currently being discussed in the talk-es mailing list: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-es/2017-August/015416.html Spain has a legitimate source of street names in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-28 Thread Pierre Béland
Simon Poole wrote Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you want to do, but it would seem as if that just amounts to doing the work twice. After revising 126 elements, I agree with Simon. Let's avoid doing the job twice. Below is an evaluation for Quebec / Canada with a sample of 126 of 1,316 id's

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-28 Thread Simon Poole
Am 28.08.2017 um 14:43 schrieb Pierre Béland: > Simon Poole wrote > > PS: naturally simply assuming that all name expansions are > legit is a bit iffy, consider Circle vs. Circuit  and other > expansions that you often can't decide without external > sources, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-28 Thread Pierre Béland
Simon Poole wrote PS: naturally simply assuming that all name expansions are legit is a bit iffy, consider Circle vs. Circuit  and other expansions that you often can't decide without external sources, I don't know if there are  any such cases in the affected data, but it seems to be silly to

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-28 Thread Simon Poole
Am 28.08.2017 um 12:16 schrieb James: > As Stewart has pointed out there are some changes that are valid(name > expansion). I think Mr.Ramm needs to revise his selection algorithm > before mass deletion I'm not quite sure why we are again discussing the center of the known universe again, but I

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread john whelan
On balance I'd go rip it out then go back in and clean it up. Cheerio John On 27 August 2017 at 12:04, James wrote: > As Mr.Ramm said, there can be trap streets, which should be removed. > > When I inspected the data, it seems most of it is in Québec and wouldnt be > hard

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
Then it wouldn't be hard either to add the names again from a legal source after the redaction. > El 27 ago 2017, a las 13:04, James escribió: > > As Mr.Ramm said, there can be trap streets, which should be removed. > > When I inspected the data, it seems most of it is in

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread James
As Mr.Ramm said, there can be trap streets, which should be removed. When I inspected the data, it seems most of it is in Québec and wouldnt be hard to validate streetnames for 1400 something items. On Aug 27, 2017 11:24 AM, "Paul Norman" wrote: > On 8/27/2017 7:26 AM, john

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread john whelan
Either directly or indirectly, and it is a suggestion only. Cheerio John On 27 August 2017 at 11:21, Paul Norman wrote: > On 8/27/2017 7:26 AM, john whelan wrote: > >> I would suggest that any street names added by chdr in Canada were more >> than likely derived from CANVEC

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread Pierre Béland
What do you think is  google source for names in Canada ;)   Pierre De : Paul Norman <penor...@mac.com> À : talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Dimanche 27 août 2017 11h24 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr On 8/27/2017 7:26 AM

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/27/2017 7:26 AM, john whelan wrote: I would suggest that any street names added by chdr in Canada were more than likely derived from CANVEC sources What makes you believe this to be so? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread Pierre Béland
As James said earlier, canvec/geobase opendata provides the street names. This can be easily corrected. But we need to establish a procedure and identify which ways chdr originally added the name. We can look simply at the history with a link to the OSM APIexample adding the id after way/ :

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread john whelan
In Canada as James has said CANVEC which has been accepted as Open Source acceptable to OSM has most street names in Canada. There are a few exceptions locally where the city has renamed streets and these changes have not yet been reflected in CANVEC. I would suggest that any street names added

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread James
If we validate via survey say in Canada, will we be able to remove the id from the revert list? Canada has Canvec we can reference to as well as OpenStreetCam and Mapillary On Aug 27, 2017 9:50 AM, "Frederik Ramm" wrote: > Hi, > >in 2010 I was privately contacted by