Re: [OSM-talk] sidewalks

2009-08-08 Thread Lester Caine
Tom Chance wrote: If a pavement/sidewalk deviates significantly, just add a footway / cycleway / other way branching off from the main highway as appropriate. If the pavement/sidewalk is really quite separate, as in your Milton Keynes example (http://osm.org/go/eu4qDpI_3--) then by all

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread Lester Caine
maning sambale wrote: For example, I search a POI in G and it points me to an OSM node. The simple answer has to be no. Unless the search engine finds links to follow it's blind. It will not fill in search boxes just to see where it can get. However if there are pages USING links to POI then a

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread David Earl
Lester Caine wrote: maning sambale wrote: For example, I search a POI in G and it points me to an OSM node. The simple answer has to be no. But the complicated answer is yes: in that I am working on the namefinder index to make it available through URLs (and a set of gazetteer pages).

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread Lester Caine
David Earl wrote: Lester Caine wrote: maning sambale wrote: For example, I search a POI in G and it points me to an OSM node. The simple answer has to be no. But the complicated answer is yes: in that I am working on the namefinder index to make it available through URLs (and a set of

[OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Liz
anyone got any ideas on tagging potential radioactive sites? a search of the wiki produced nothing so far *thinking* radioactivity=yes type=depleted_uranium type=* ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 09:49:17 +0100, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: David Earl wrote: Lester Caine wrote: maning sambale wrote: For example, I search a POI in G and it points me to an OSM node. The simple answer has to be no. But the complicated answer is yes: in that I am working

Re: [OSM-talk] sidewalks

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Collinson
At 10:20 PM 7/08/2009, OJ W wrote: sidewalks in villages - what to do? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.172898lon=-0.524788zoom=18 are they footpaths or are they road attributes? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Footway A corollary but very important issue is

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread David Earl
Lester Caine wrote: David Earl wrote: Lester Caine wrote: maning sambale wrote: For example, I search a POI in G and it points me to an OSM node. The simple answer has to be no. But the complicated answer is yes: in that I am working on the namefinder index to make it available through

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread Nic Roets
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:37 AM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.comwrote: i.e. everything with a name (or other identifier like ref), which is all the useful ones. (Of course we already have URLs by number for every node, way and relation in the system, though those aren't usually exposed

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread David Earl
Nic Roets wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:37 AM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com mailto:da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: i.e. everything with a name (or other identifier like ref), which is all the useful ones. (Of course we already have URLs by number for every node,

Re: [OSM-talk] Layer transitions

2009-08-08 Thread Richard Mann
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: In other words, at any node which is a junction of way segments with different layers (whether the segments are part of the same way or different ways), the physical implication is that the slope of the way changes in

Re: [OSM-talk] Do we care if its forest or wood? Natural worldmapping ...

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Harris
Sympathy from a pom! Deciduous and evergreen are orthogonal. Coniferous is not even quite a sub-set of evergreen as there are a few deciduous conifers, e.g. larch. So OSM to use evergreen vs. deciduous and show its innate superiority to OS? Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Liz

Re: [OSM-talk] Building bridges: Kaliningrad mapping party?

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Harris
... In exchange for a German contribution to London, Coventry, Plymouth, Liverpool ... ? Could we also put end_date= to the blame game and all learn from the mistakes of the past? Some of us are old enough to have been there at the time! Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Laurence

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Harris
If I understand rightly, this sounds like barrier=turnstile? Mike Harris -Original Message- From: John Smith [mailto:delta_foxt...@yahoo.com] Sent: 26 July 2009 16:16 To: osm-talk; vi...@thevikas.com Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier --- On Sun, 26/7/09, ヴィカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav)

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Harris
But is you use barrier=stile doesn't that imply that a pedestrian can (and is intended to) climb over it? Whereas a turnstile is most often something that you cannot climb over and access is usually (but perhaps not always) subject to a coin- or car-in-the-slot payment or validation? Mike Harris

Re: [OSM-talk] sidewalks

2009-08-08 Thread Richard Mann
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:15 AM, ed...@billiau.net wrote: a previous poster (I've lost the thread as I'm using my webmail) said that these could be assumed in residential areas. While residents here would like concrete paths provided in residential areas they are not standard by any means.

Re: [OSM-talk] Layer transitions

2009-08-08 Thread Marc Schütz
no, it's not, it's about relative order in the db. Fair enough. In other words, at any node which is a junction of way segments with different layers (whether the segments are part of the same way or different ways), the physical implication is that the slope of the way changes in the close

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
Create a web page for every suburb, village and hamlet. Create a link to the nearest city or town in bold (if there are multiple cities at the same distance, create multiple links. Find all the streets that are closest to this suburb and create links for each one. The same goes

[OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Hi all, I want to point attention to the potlatch-funtion tidy-points (similar to JOSM simplify way). I encourage everybody not to use these functions (at least not on data someone else entered) as it harms severly the data. IMHO OSM is a project about drawing a collaborative map, not about

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread Lester Caine
David Earl wrote: Lester Caine wrote: David Earl wrote: Lester Caine wrote: maning sambale wrote: For example, I search a POI in G and it points me to an OSM node. The simple answer has to be no. But the complicated answer is yes: in that I am working on the namefinder index to make it

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/8 Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) skipp...@gimnechiske.org: Is that really information interesting to the main map? I would rather think that such highly special information could be available as a openlayer overlay from other/independent sources. she was asking about tagging, not rendering.

Re: [OSM-talk] sidewalks

2009-08-08 Thread Lester Caine
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Giving a practical example of where currently pedestrian routing can't be carried out .. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.52986lon=-0.44605zoom=17layers=B000FTF ( I lived in Hewens Road many years ago so know that area ) There is a fence down the middle of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Introductions, and Icons?:

2009-08-08 Thread OJ W
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Austin Martinajmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Also, does OSM need a collective icon set, because by looking at this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features. It seems like just a random mishmash of icons, but maybe I'm wrong on this.. However if I'm right, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Introductions, and Icons?:

2009-08-08 Thread Roeland Douma
First of all welcome! Always good to see new members of our ever growing community :) If you want to buy a GPS you might want to go with a Garmin since then you can use OSM maps, which is awesome. However there are people here that know a lot more about GPSes, which to buy, which to avoid.

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Harris
I tend to disagree - the purpose, design and access aspects of a turnstile are normally very different from those of a stile. I think there is a good case for barrier=turnstile - even, if like many other barrier tags, it is not yet rendered. I do not regard a turnstile as a subtype of 'stile'.

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Harris
Do not tag for the renderer! And I still don't think turnstile is in any way a type of stile any more than a stile is a type of gate. In fact, to be contentious, perhaps a turnstile is indeed a type of gate! Mike Harris -Original Message- From: John Smith

Re: [OSM-talk] Introductions, and Icons?:

2009-08-08 Thread Austin Martin
Hello, OJ, Roeland, all On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Roeland Douma u...@rullzer.com wrote: If you want to buy a GPS you might want to go with a Garmin since then you can use OSM maps, which is awesome. However there are people here that know a lot more about GPSes, which to buy, which

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread Nic Roets
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: page of history EVEN WITH NO FOLLOW SET - having millions of indexed pages does not necessarily increase presence, since they then ignore all the duplication and treat it as attempts to distort the search results! Not

Re: [OSM-talk] Korea users

2009-08-08 Thread wynndale
I've noticed a lot of new data on Korea. Who is working on Korea and is there a separate email list? -- Jeffrey John Martin dogs...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk There

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Lized...@billiau.net wrote: anyone got any ideas on tagging potential radioactive sites? a search of the wiki produced nothing so far How would we confirm potential radioactive sites? Is a decommissioned power plant or quarry potentially more radioactive than

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Weait wrote: I'm inclined to think that _actual_ _radiation_ _measurements_ are interesting for the database. Guesses and suppositions; much less interesting. Forgive my scientific ignorance, but are actual measurements even static enough - I mean, if I measure radiation X at a

Re: [OSM-talk] Do we care if its forest or wood? Natural worldmapping ...

2009-08-08 Thread Jason Cunningham
You cant confidently split trees into two groups, although Ordnance Survey have tried to. I believe in the future there will be a desire to give areas of woodland a tag that describes the type of woodland. But there is not rush and Evergreen, Deciduous and Mixed seem like a safe start Jason

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Nic Roets wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: anyone got any ideas on tagging potential radioactive sites? a search of the wiki produced nothing so far *thinking* radioactivity=yes type=depleted_uranium Hi Liz, Many scientific

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: Forgive my scientific ignorance, but are actual measurements even static enough - I mean, if I measure radiation X at a certain place, is there reason to believe that it will (in the absence of catastrophic events) be more or less unchanged one month

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-08 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Martin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to start a discussion about which automated functionalities we want to allow As long as the automated functionalities are initiated and controlled by human judgment, there is no need to limit them.

Re: [OSM-talk] Introductions, and Icons?:

2009-08-08 Thread Liz
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Roeland Douma wrote: If you want to buy a GPS you might want to go with a Garmin since then you can use OSM maps, which is awesome. However there are people here that know a lot more about GPSes, which to buy, which to avoid. Also by searching on the wiki you can find a

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:42:37 +0200 (CEST), Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: Forgive my scientific ignorance, but are actual measurements even static enough - I mean, if I measure radiation X at a certain place, is there reason to believe that

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: So if we take normal uranium it will only be alpha radiation, unless you eat, breath in dust etc. it is not harmful. (So you know exactly the reason why you shouldn't eat mushrooms in East-Europe) What about Uranium mining areas?

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-08 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:42:43 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I want to point attention to the potlatch-funtion tidy-points (similar to JOSM simplify way). I encourage everybody not to use these functions (at least not on data someone else entered) as it harms

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-08 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
I know that some people like this tidy-points-function to work on TIGER-Data, but I tell you: if the TIGER-Data is not good/precise, it won't get better using this function ;-) bad data doesn't get worse either. for a lot of tiger data it can compact without any loss. And tiger is not a

Re: [OSM-talk] Introductions, and Icons?:

2009-08-08 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
while the Garmin ones can use OSM maps, the chips they are still using is not the newest and best so it is harder to get a fix My newest logger can actually get a fix inside my house, which was constructed with a near complete Faraday cage design, although a fix takes much longer than

Re: [Talk-it] [Bulk] Biglietterie (-- e altro -- Segesta MP)

2009-08-08 Thread David Paleino
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 03:38:48 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/8 David Paleino d.pale...@gmail.com: Inoltre, sarebbe carino inventarsi una relation per legare gli ingressi alle biglietterie. Suggerimento:  type= ???  Ruolo shop → dove comprare i biglietti (uno o più)  Ruolo

[Talk-it] Confini comunali

2009-08-08 Thread Maurizio Daniele
Buongiorno a tutti. Prima volta che scrivo qui, sono un nuovo arrivato nel progetto e ho iniziato a mappare il mio comune (Orbassano, provincia di Torino) da pochi giorni. Volevo alcune delucidazioni, se c'è qualcuno che mi può chiarire un problema: con l'utente Cervo,che è impegnato a mappare

Re: [Talk-it] Confini comunali

2009-08-08 Thread Elena of Valhalla
2009/8/8 Maurizio Daniele maurizio.dani...@gmail.com: Ovviamente non esiste nulla di fisico che ci dica qui passa il confine amministrativo da poter mappare con un gps, in realta` in teoria dovrebbero esistere dei cippi di confine anche tra i comuni, la cui posizione potrebbe essere rilevata

Re: [Talk-it] [Bulk] Biglietterie (-- e altro -- Segesta MP)

2009-08-08 Thread David Paleino
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 15:14:40 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/8 David Paleino d.pale...@gmail.com: Io intendevo proprio qualcosa di specifico per legare biglietterie ed ingressi :-) Volendo, posso inventarmi i due ruoli tickets ed entrance ed usarli in questa relazione... uhm.

[Talk-it] geological=paleontological_site OPPURE natural=paleontological_site

2009-08-08 Thread marcellobil...@gmail
IMHO no. Poi c'è anche la critica che si scrive palaeontoligical in ingleterra. I tifo geological=palaeontological_site, ma concordo anche su qualsiasi altro tag ;-) ciao, Martin Ciao Martin, ma diventa un po' piu lunga la cosa se inoltriamo una doppia richiesta? ovvero una per

Re: [Talk-it] geological=paleontological_site OPPURE natural=paleontological_site

2009-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/8 marcellobil...@gmail marcello.bil...@gmail.com: IMHO no. Poi c'è anche la critica che si scrive palaeontoligical in ingleterra. I tifo geological=palaeontological_site, ma concordo anche su qualsiasi altro tag ;-) ciao, Martin Ciao Martin, ma diventa un po' piu lunga la cosa se

Re: [Talk-it] [Bulk] Biglietterie (-- e altro -- Segesta MP)

2009-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/8 David Paleino d.pale...@gmail.com: Ecco:  type=site  site=archaeological_site  name=Sito Archeologico di Segesta Membri (ruolo -- oggetto)  monument       area/nodo  shop           area/nodo  tickets        area/nodo  entrance       nodo Cioè implementare ruoli specifici per

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

2009-08-08 Thread Frankie Roberto
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: IMHO the solution is simple. Name it after what you are mapping. For vehicles: The route the cyclist follows is route=bicycle. The route bus 5 follows is route=bus. The route tram 13 follows is route=tram. The route the

Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter

2009-08-08 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi Mike, Thanks for bringing the OSMF perspective here. I'm not experienced in these things, but I don't think membership fees would be feasible as the main source of funding of OSMF in the long run with respect to the technical operating costs (legal, administrative, etc. costs are fine). As I

Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: someone keeps on telling me not to tag for the renderer The other reason they were elevated is due a lot of them being of regional importance. ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] amenity=shelter

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: I'd say that the best solution would be tourism=picnic_site;shelter/cover/rainproof=yes. The reason being that it's not just a shelter, it's a picnic site which happens to be under cover. I suggested:

[talk-au] Anyone near Blacktown in Sydney?

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
Just noticed there is 3 or 4 suburbs near the Blacktown area that are marked highway=road http://maps.bigtincan.com/map.php?zoom=14lat=-33.74831lon=150.92984layers=B ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:42:56 + (GMT) John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been looking for some kind of simple search that can be added to the map page, so far I haven't found anything open source or something I can easily hack into a website so I've cooked up a proof of

Re: [talk-au] amenity=shelter

2009-08-08 Thread Hugh Barnes
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:53:41 +1000 Ashley Kyd a...@kyd.com.au wrote: Hi all, I was having a conversation the other day when the purpose of amenity=shelter was brought into question. http://barstool.ash.ms/photos/07082009-shelter.jpg Above is a photo I took while out the other day. It's

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
I also started logging searches, that way common spelling mistakes can be dealt with as well. I'm also thinking if they don't supply the street type, it can go through half a dozen or a dozen common street postfixes and see if anything matches that way too. Also I could probably make state

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:39:38 + (GMT) John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: This case is an exception since there is a place=* node for Perth which is marked as a capital city, does anyone know 2 towns or villiages or ... with the same names in different states? or even same state I

Re: [talk-au] Proposed changes for the Australian tagging guidelines.

2009-08-08 Thread Peter Ross
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Roy Wallacewaldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Evan Sebiree...@sebire.org wrote: Bush walking paths should also be tagged as path not footway, except for National parks were bicycles / horses are typically banned. I think these should

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread jhen
That ain't going to happen - far too much effort involved to do that properly everywhere on every shared path. John --- On Sat, 8/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: For width, use width=*. ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread jhen
When new to an area, what would lead me to take one path over several alternatives. I don't really want to ride them all before I know which one cyclists usually use. John --- Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: highway=path; bicycle=designated; foot=yes. Why isn't that a good idea? All

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:50 AM, j...@talk21.com wrote: With all footpaths being shared paths here in the ACT, what makes a good cycling path is sometimes difficult to pin down. If the meaning of a tag is difficult to pin down, IMHO it is probably not verifiable and therefore probably not a good

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:03 AM, j...@talk21.com wrote: Think of the situation with roads, and the multitude of different tags available to show how important the road is. We only need two (or maybe three at most) to say whether a shared path is a good cycling path.  And then a few guidelines

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread jhen
At  the moment I'm not trying to define anything.  But a shared path that's frequently used by cyclists means it's used as a cycleway. And that';s worth knowing. John ---  Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Are you suggesting that a cycleway should be defined as the path that cyclists

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-08 Thread Liz
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, j...@talk21.com wrote: At the moment I'm not trying to define anything. But a shared path that's frequently used by cyclists means it's used as a cycleway. And that';s worth knowing. John --- Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Are you suggesting that a

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread James Livingston
On 08/08/2009, at 11:58 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:39:38 + (GMT) John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: This case is an exception since there is a place=* node for Perth which is marked as a capital city, does anyone know 2 towns or villiages or ... with the

Re: [talk-au] Basic search, first attempt

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote: I'm sure there are *lots* of places with the same name, a couple more  I was hoping to make it easy for people so they don't need to enter the state, but there isn't enough info in the OSM database to distinguish between them, and

Re: [Talk-de] Off: Speed-Camera auch für Kreuzungs überwachung

2009-08-08 Thread Johannes Huesing
Sven Sommerkamp s_sommerk...@gmx.de [Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:00:59AM CEST]: Am Freitag, 7. August 2009 01:09:41 schrieb Garry: [...] Seit hier so eine Kiste steht fahren die Leute sehr viel nervöser. Es wäre wirklich mal interessant die Statistik zu lesen. Ob an den Kreuzungen wo geblitzt

Re: [Talk-de] Off: Speed-Camera auch für Kreuzungs überwachung

2009-08-08 Thread Sven Sommerkamp
Am Samstag, 8. August 2009 08:06:47 schrieb Johannes Huesing: Sven Sommerkamp s_sommerk...@gmx.de [Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:00:59AM CEST]: Am Freitag, 7. August 2009 01:09:41 schrieb Garry: [...] Seit hier so eine Kiste steht fahren die Leute sehr viel nervöser. Es wäre wirklich mal

Re: [Talk-de] rechtliche Frage zum eigenen Wissen

2009-08-08 Thread Tirkon
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Am 7. August 2009 00:24 schrieb Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de: Ich bin ja auch fuer gute Kommunikation und alles, aber so ein kleines bisschen ist Information schon auch eine Holschuld - wir koennen leider niemandem anbieten, dass er sich auf eine

Re: [Talk-de] rechtliche Frage zum eigenen Wissen

2009-08-08 Thread Tirkon
Johannes Huesing johan...@huesing.name wrote: Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de [Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 12:26:29AM CEST]: [...] Die Mailingliste hier ist alles Andere als barrierefrei Kannst Du mir sagen, welche Grundsätze der BITV durch die Mailingliste verletzt werden?

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM ist nur ein wirrer Haufen bunter Pixel

2009-08-08 Thread Tirkon
Stephan o...@stephans-server.de wrote: Tirkon wrote: Während der Installation wurde erwähnt, es sei 6-14 installiert. Nach dem Update auf 6-15 bleibt JOSM leider bunt und unbrauchbar, wie zuvor. klingt nach einem Problem mit der Ansteuerung der Grafikkarte. Treiber der Grafikkarte aktuell?

Re: [Talk-de] Abstimmung paläntologisches Areal

2009-08-08 Thread Olaf Kotzte
so noch mal zurück zu diesem schon etwas angestaubten Thema. In der Zwischenzeit gibt es ein Proposal für natural=palaeontologic_site was meiner bescheidenen Meinung nach besser passt als der ursprüngliche Vorschlag historic=paleontologic_site.

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM ist nur ein wirrer Haufen bunter Pixel

2009-08-08 Thread Tirkon
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Eventuell kannst Du einige der Befehlszeilen-Parameter, die die Graphikdarstellung von Java beeinflussen, aus diesem alten Posting von Tobias Wendorff mal ausprobieren: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2008-August/018375.html Ist zwar

Re: [Talk-de] Google Streetview Wettbewerber unterst ützt Openstreetmap

2009-08-08 Thread Tirkon
Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de wrote: Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: zur openaerialmap gab es auf der SOTM einen Workshop (wie's mit dem Projekt weitergeht) von Cristiano. Evtl. gibt da auch ein Video. Nein, leider nicht: das Workshop-Room war ohne Video-Aufzeichnung (die Berücksichtigung

Re: [Talk-de] ÖPNV-Karte - Relationen in Berlin gel öscht

2009-08-08 Thread Andreas Pothe
wollte gerade - aus aktuellem Anlass - mal die U55 in Berlin auf der ÖPNV-Karte anschauen. Aber irgendwer oder irgendwas hat die Relationen alle gelöscht? Auf jeden Fall stimmt da irgendwas nicht: http://www.öpnvkarte.de/?lat=52.51766lon=13.3757zoom=16layers=BT vgl.

Re: [Talk-de] ÖPNV-Karte - Relationen in Berlin gel öscht

2009-08-08 Thread Fips Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Achso, okay. Dann wirds das sein, ich hatte nicht die Muße, mir die Relationen im Editor anzuschauen. Danke für die Info... - - Fips - -- Andreas Pothe schrieb: wollte gerade - aus aktuellem Anlass - mal die U55 in Berlin auf der ÖPNV-Karte

Re: [Talk-de] Google Streetview Wettbewerber unterst ützt Openstreetmap

2009-08-08 Thread Tirkon
SB79 sb-lis...@gmx-topmail.de wrote: Sowas müsste auch die Mapper in den von _sightwalk abgedeckten Städten erreichen. Doch außer Einträgen im OSM-Wiki wüßte ich auch nicht, wie man gezielt Mapper in den entsprechenden Städten erreicht. Hat jemand eine Idee? :-) Ich habe es mal auf den

[Talk-de] Doppelte Wege

2009-08-08 Thread Gary68
Hi, mir ist in letzter Zeit aufgefallen, dass Wege (residentials, aber sicher auch andere) doppelt übereinander liegen. Teilweise ganze Straßenzüge... Daher ein kleines Check Programm, das (für residentials) dies prüft: http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/gary68/waydupes.pl Wiki

[Talk-de] Magazin mit OSM-Deutschlandkarte auf Heft-CD

2009-08-08 Thread André Riedel
Habe gerade im Zeitungsladen des Vertrauens gesehen, dass das Magazin PCgo 09/2009 mit einer kostenlosen Navi-Update für ganz Deutschland wirbt. Natürlich ist OSM drin :-) Beim kurzen Überfliegen las ich, dass eine Karte für Garmin angeboten wird, sowie eine kleine Anleitung wie man diese ins

Re: [Talk-de] Magazin mit OSM-Deutschlandkarte auf Heft-CD

2009-08-08 Thread André Riedel
Am 8. August 2009 14:34 schrieb André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com: ... sowie eine kleine Anleitung, wie man diese ins Garmin-Gerät bringt. confused 8-/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM ist nur ein wirrer Haufen bunter Pixel

2009-08-08 Thread Tirkon
Zunächst einmal vielen Dank für die ausführlichen Erklärungen :-) SLXViper slxvi...@gmx.net wrote: (Start-Ausführen-cmd.exe öffnen dann im Terminal (schwarzes Fenster) diesen Befehl eingeben und Enter drücken). Das Ergebnis wäre interessant. Mit Deinen Erläuterungen habe ich es verstanden.

Re: [Talk-de] Abstimmung paläntologisches Areal

2009-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 8. August 2009 11:28 schrieb Olaf Kotzte olaf.kot...@gmx.net: so noch mal zurück zu diesem schon etwas angestaubten Thema. In der Zwischenzeit gibt es ein Proposal für natural=palaeontologic_site was meiner bescheidenen Meinung nach besser passt als der ursprüngliche Vorschlag

Re: [Talk-de] Off: Speed-Camera auch für Kreuzungs überwachung

2009-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 8. August 2009 09:00 schrieb Sven Sommerkamp s_sommerk...@gmx.de: Ich meinte eigentlich beides. Argumentation die Überwachung durchzuführen ist die hohe Unfallwahrscheinlichkeit. Und gleichzeitig ist die Überwachung auch ein neuer Auslöser für Unfälle. (Huch bin ich grad zu schnell,

Re: [Talk-de] rechtliche Frage zum eigenen Wissen

2009-08-08 Thread Tirkon
Raimond Spekking raimond.spekk...@gmail.com wrote: Das würde ich nicht so laut sagen ;-) Andrew arbeitet im Moment im Auftrage der Wikimedia Foundation an der MediaWiki-Erweiterung LiquidThreads. Diese soll die Diskussionsseiten in MediaWiki vereinfachen. Das hört sich ja vielversprechend an.

Re: [Talk-de] Doppelte Wege

2009-08-08 Thread Stephan
Gary68 wrote: mir ist in letzter Zeit aufgefallen, dass Wege (residentials, aber sicher auch andere) doppelt übereinander liegen. Teilweise ganze Straßenzüge... ist mir auch schon aufgefallen. Hat oder hatte da mal ein Editor Probleme? Was würde denn bei Netzwerkproblemen passieren wenn der

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM ist nur ein wirrer Haufen bunter Pixel

2009-08-08 Thread Stephan
Tirkon wrote: Zunächst einmal vielen Dank für die ausführlichen Erklärungen :-) SLXViper slxvi...@gmx.net wrote: (Start-Ausführen-cmd.exe öffnen dann im Terminal (schwarzes Fenster) diesen Befehl eingeben und Enter drücken). Das Ergebnis wäre interessant. Mit Deinen Erläuterungen habe

Re: [Talk-de] Doppelte Wege

2009-08-08 Thread SteMo
Hi Gary, Gary68 schrieb, am 08.08.2009 14:15 Uhr: mir ist in letzter Zeit aufgefallen, dass Wege (residentials, aber sicher auch andere) doppelt übereinander liegen. Teilweise ganze Straßenzüge... das ist mir auch in letzter Zeit häufiger auch schon bei schon länger existierenden

[Talk-de] Lokale Gruppen im Wiki und auf openstreetmap.de

2009-08-08 Thread Jochen Topf
Hi! Auf openstreetmap.de werden schon seit längerem die lokalen Gruppen aufgelistet und sie können auch auf der Karte angezeigt werden. Das ging bisher immer komplett manuell und war daher umständlich und schwer aktuell zu halten. Ich habe das jetzt etwas automatischer gestaltet: Es gibt im Wiki

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM ist nur ein wirrer Haufen bunter Pixel

2009-08-08 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Tirkon wrote: Wenn sich JOSM öffnet, dann wird beim Durchlesen des Startbildschirms als erstes empfohlen, diese beiden Seiten anzuschauen Wo wird das? Die Hinweise mit den Zahlen sind doch recht eindeutig Neuigkeiten (immerhin steht ganz am Ende der Liste auch weitere

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM ist nur ein wirrer Haufen bunter Pixel

2009-08-08 Thread Tirkon
Dirk Stöcker openstreet...@dstoecker.de wrote: Für Beginner gibt es sogar einen eigenen Punkt und auch auf die Hilfe-Seiten wird verlinkt. Du kannst nicht erwarten, dass die gesamte Seite den Einsteigern gewidmet wird, immerhin sieht jeder Nutzer diese Seite jedesmal. Deswegen ist der obere

Re: [Talk-de] Doppelte Wege

2009-08-08 Thread SLXViper
SteMo schrieb: Hi Gary, Gary68 schrieb, am 08.08.2009 14:15 Uhr: mir ist in letzter Zeit aufgefallen, dass Wege (residentials, aber sicher auch andere) doppelt übereinander liegen. Teilweise ganze Straßenzüge... das ist mir auch in letzter Zeit häufiger auch schon bei schon länger

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM ist nur ein wirrer Haufen bunter Pixel

2009-08-08 Thread Tirkon
Dirk Stöcker openstreet...@dstoecker.de wrote: Wenn alles klappt verhält sich JOSM wie jedes andere Programm auch. Wenn nicht, dann fängt die Fehlersuche an. Da hören Kommandozeilenargumente dazu. Dass ist aber bei anderen Programmen genauso. Leider hat die Windows-Monotonie dazu geführt, dass

Re: [Talk-de] Lokale Gruppen im Wiki und auf openstreetmap.de

2009-08-08 Thread André Reichelt
Jochen Topf schrieb: Hi! Auf openstreetmap.de werden schon seit längerem die lokalen Gruppen aufgelistet und sie können auch auf der Karte angezeigt werden. Das ging bisher immer komplett manuell und war daher umständlich und schwer aktuell zu halten. Wo findet man denn die

[Talk-de] copyright

2009-08-08 Thread Wolfgang Wienke
Hallo, darf man Radwege und Knotenpunkte aus dem Radroutenplaner NRW in OSM übernehmen? -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen Wolfgang Wienke ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] copyright

2009-08-08 Thread André Reichelt
Wolfgang Wienke schrieb: Hallo, darf man Radwege und Knotenpunkte aus dem Radroutenplaner NRW in OSM übernehmen? Ich würde jetzt mal ganz spontan NEIN sagen. Gibt es denn in den Nutzungsbedingungen irgend eine Passage die dich zu dieser Frage bewegt hat? André

Re: [Talk-de] Lokale Gruppen im Wiki und auf openstreetmap.de

2009-08-08 Thread Tirkon
Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: Alle Seiten, die dieses Template benutzen, werden auch automatisch in die Kategorie http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Lokale_Gruppe eingetragen. Die Funktionalität überschneidet sich etwas mit dem Template

Re: [Talk-de] rechtliche Frage zum eigenen Wissen

2009-08-08 Thread Johannes Huesing
Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de [Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 10:14:20AM CEST]: [...] Da liegt ein Mißverständnis vor. Das barrierefrei bezog sich auf die notwendigen technischen Kenntnisse zum Zugang auf Mailinglisten, was aus dem Kontest des oben Zitierten hervorgegangen sein dürfte. Nun, barrierefrei ist

Re: [Talk-de] Lokale Gruppen im Wiki und auf openstreetmap.de

2009-08-08 Thread Jochen Topf
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 05:59:54PM +0200, André Reichelt wrote: Jochen Topf schrieb: Hi! Auf openstreetmap.de werden schon seit längerem die lokalen Gruppen aufgelistet und sie können auch auf der Karte angezeigt werden. Das ging bisher immer komplett manuell und war daher

Re: [Talk-de] Lokale Gruppen im Wiki und auf openstreetmap.de

2009-08-08 Thread Jochen Topf
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 07:17:26PM +0200, Tirkon wrote: Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: Alle Seiten, die dieses Template benutzen, werden auch automatisch in die Kategorie http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Lokale_Gruppe eingetragen. Die Funktionalität überschneidet sich

Re: [Talk-de] rechtliche Frage zum eigenen Wissen

2009-08-08 Thread Raimond Spekking
Tirkon schrieb: Raimond Spekking raimond.spekk...@gmail.com wrote: Das hört sich ja vielversprechend an. :-) Siehst Du attraktive Features, welche die Nutzer der Mailinglisten auf die Diskussionsseiten des Wiki locken könnte? Abwarten, das mag ich noch nicht beurteilen. Erstmal muss das

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