Re: [OSM-talk] Name challenge - what to call the new OSM+Wikidata service?

[Jinal Foflia]

I'd suggest WOSM or WD-OSM :)

Cheers,

Jinal Foflia

On Sep 17, 2017 11:03 AM, "djakk djakk"  wrote:

> Wikidata+OSM as the long name, and w+OSM or wOSM as the short name ? :)
>
> 2017-09-16 23:11 GMT+02:00 Yuri Astrakhan :
>
>> The new service is getting more and more usage, but it lacks the most
>> important thing - a good name.  So far my two choices are:
>>
>> * wikosm
>> * wikidosm
>>
>> Suggestions?  Votes?  The service combines Wikidata and OpenStreetMap
>> databases, and uses SPARQL (query language) to search it, so might be good
>> to reflect that in the name.
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata%2BOSM_SPARQL_query_service
>>
>> P.S.  I know this is the hardest problem after off-by-one and caching...
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Name challenge - what to call the new OSM+Wikidata service?

[Shu Higashi]

wdoqs (WikiData Osm Query Service) ?

2017-09-17 14:30 GMT+09:00, djakk djakk :
> Wikidata+OSM as the long name, and w+OSM or wOSM as the short name ? :)
>
> 2017-09-16 23:11 GMT+02:00 Yuri Astrakhan :
>
>> The new service is getting more and more usage, but it lacks the most
>> important thing - a good name.  So far my two choices are:
>>
>> * wikosm
>> * wikidosm
>>
>> Suggestions?  Votes?  The service combines Wikidata and OpenStreetMap
>> databases, and uses SPARQL (query language) to search it, so might be
>> good
>> to reflect that in the name.
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata%2BOSM_SPARQL_query_service
>>
>> P.S.  I know this is the hardest problem after off-by-one and caching...
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Name challenge - what to call the new OSM+Wikidata service?

[djakk djakk]

Wikidata+OSM as the long name, and w+OSM or wOSM as the short name ? :)

2017-09-16 23:11 GMT+02:00 Yuri Astrakhan :

> The new service is getting more and more usage, but it lacks the most
> important thing - a good name.  So far my two choices are:
>
> * wikosm
> * wikidosm
>
> Suggestions?  Votes?  The service combines Wikidata and OpenStreetMap
> databases, and uses SPARQL (query language) to search it, so might be good
> to reflect that in the name.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata%2BOSM_SPARQL_query_service
>
> P.S.  I know this is the hardest problem after off-by-one and caching...
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Re: [Talk-ca] La Presse Canadienne, Carte MapBox - Google Map - Est-ce possible ?

[Pierre Choffet]

Le 16/09/2017 à 18:34, Pierre Béland a écrit :
> Voila de quoi se réjouir avec la mise à jour de la carte de l'agence
> de presse La Presse Canadienne aujourd'hui. La source a auss été
> corrigée avec mention de OpenStreetMap.
Drôle de hasard ! as-tu tenté de les contacter, ou se sont-ils rendus
compte de leur erreur « tout seul » ?

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[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.3.0

[Paul Norman]

Dear all,

Today, v4.3.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default
stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released.

Changes include

- Moving ford and emergency phone to a new tagging scheme
- Moving natural=tree to higher zoom level (z18+)
- Changing embassy color to brown
- Rendering name for waterway=dock
- The same line wrap of amenities for all zoom levels
- Fixing combined railway/highway ordering regression
- Fixing line wrapping bug in Docker
- Some documentation and code cleaning
- Improve ferry line text legibility
- Hide small theme parks and zoos
- Use solid lines for admin borders at low zooms

Thanks to all the contributors for this release, including stevenLAD, a
new contributor.

For a full list of commits, see
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/compare/v4.2.0...v4.3.0

As always, we welcome any bug reports at
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Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura linee autobus

[Luca Delucchi]

2017-09-16 17:52 GMT+02:00 Simone Saviolo :
> Il giorno 16 settembre 2017 16:43, marco zampiva  ha
> scritto:
>>
>> Buongiorno a tutti,
>>
>> guardando sia la documentazione sia quanto mappato in Italia vedo che in
>> alcuni casi la relazione che descrive una linea di bus contiene all’inizio
>> le fermate e di seguito il percorso, in altri casi succede il contrario
>> prima il percorso e poi le fermata.
>>
>> Le due modalità di mappatura sono equivalenti oppure ci sono dei motivi
>> per preferirne una rispetto all’altra?
>
>
> Che io sappia, l'ordine dei membri nella relazione non ha alcuna importanza.
>

invece credo sia importante, infatti su JOSM nel editor delle route ti
segna se la relazione è rotta oppure no (freccette continue) ;-)

Inoltre se converti la relazione OSM in un formato GIS si creano delle
linee non corrette

> Ciao,
>
> Simone
>


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Re: [Talk-ca] La Presse Canadienne, Carte MapBox - Google Map - Est-ce possible ?

[Pierre Béland]

Voila de quoi se réjouir avec la mise à jour de la carte de l'agence de presse 
La Presse Canadienne aujourd'hui. La source a auss été corrigée avec mention de 
OpenStreetMap. Donc on peut dire un autre SwitchToOsm qui en plus se retrouvera 
dans les différents médias canadiens !! Merci à La Presse Canadienne pour cette 
belle collaboration.

http://thecanadianpress-a.akamaihd.net/graphics/2017/september/pc-septembre/alerte-amber/carte-alerte-amber.png
  
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Re: [Talk-it] Vandalisi in atto Trieste

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 15. Sep 2017, at 00:06, Massimiliano Guidi  wrote:
> 
> (ti sembrerà strano ma un sacco di gente non sa nemmeno che il wiki esiste)



non mi sembra molto strano, l'hanno spostato (il link), dalla prima pagina ad 
una sottopagina in una lista "aiuto" dove compare per ultimo.

Concordo che ci sono una parte di tags che potrebbero molto probabilmente 
essere sbagliati su certi tipi di geometria, ma il wiki. non ha sempre ragione 
su questo (viene scritto dalle stesse persone che mappano), e questi sono pochi 
tag e pochi errori. Si trovano poi facilmente, anche dopo, ma hai ragione, in 
questi casi il mappatore forse ci ripenserebbe - sarebbe utile poter già 
suggerire eventuali alternative.

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Re: [Talk-it] Fattoria didattica.

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 15. Sep 2017, at 19:15, girarsi_liste  wrote:
> 
> landuse=farmyard + tourism=zoo + zoo=petting_zoo and some description.
> 
> Per cui mi oriento su questo al momento


veramente hanno detto che questi sono i tag a Berlino, ma per me quei posti a 
Berlino non sono proprio la stessa identica cosa di un agriturismo in campagna. 
La scelta rimane a te, se pensi la fattoria che vuoi taggare sia un tipo di 
zoo, allora mettici questo. Sennò c'erano anche alternative sulla lista.

Ciao,
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Re: [Talk-it] Date e mappe OSM e compatibilità con licenze commerciali

[mircozorzo]

Grazie molte. È solo che voglio essere certo di quello che dico.

Ottimo!

Ciao, Mirco



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[OSM-talk] Name challenge - what to call the new OSM+Wikidata service?

[Yuri Astrakhan]

The new service is getting more and more usage, but it lacks the most
important thing - a good name.  So far my two choices are:

* wikosm
* wikidosm

Suggestions?  Votes?  The service combines Wikidata and OpenStreetMap
databases, and uses SPARQL (query language) to search it, so might be good
to reflect that in the name.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata%2BOSM_SPARQL_query_service

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Utilisation du tag 'name' avec les langues régionales

[Christian Rogel]

> 
>> Le 14 sept. 2017 à 00:26, marc marc  a écrit :
>> 
>> Il y a un conflit entre mettre cela dans la rubrique France et dire que 
>> cela concerne des régions bilingues qui n'existent pas en France.
>> 
>> France has many regional languages besides French.
>> None of them are recognized nationally but may have some limited
>> support from regional or local collectivitie(including in schools and 
>> universities)
>> There are also bilingual streetsigns. Some language codes are :
>> name=* for the default local name, possibly bilingual
>> 
>> Le paragraphe laisse facilement penser qu'il suffit d'un panneau de rue 
>> bilingue pour rendre la rue officiellement bilingue avec tout les *** 
>> qui en découlent.
>> Je pense qu'ils serrait beaucoup plus clair d'énoncer la règle ainsi :
>> les communes, hameaux etc n'ont qu'un nom officiel, celui utilisé
>> par la langue française, c'est celui là qu'on met dans name.
>> Le fais qu'une commune met un panneau "publicitaire" avec son nom en 
>> chinois ne transforme pas pour autant la commune en région bilingue !
>> 
>> A l'inverse, il n'y a pas de "limited support", le support est sans 
>> limite, aucune limitation du nombre de langue supportée même si certains 
>> communes commence à avoir plus de traduction que de réel contributeur :(
>> 
>> Pour les rues, qui a autorité légale sur le choix du nom ?
>> ou pour le dire autrement, qui peux décider que demain,
>> la rue nommé "rue de la gare" s’appellera "schtroumph" ?
>> 
>> Marc (qui cela ne se voit pas, est dans une famille multi-dialecte)
> 
> Oui, il faut modifier seulement la phrase "some language codes are "name" for 
> the default name possibly bilingual.
> Il est plus normal d'indiquer :
> 1 Que l'on rencontre des affichages multiples
> 2 Qu'ils doivent être traités comme séparés
> 
> Mais, encore une fois, ne pas mettre sur le dos de la langue française, ce 
> qui résulte d'un processus politique.
> Reprenons l'exemple de Toulouse : ses habitants l'appelait majoritairement 
> Tolosa depuis l'Antiquité. Cela a duré jusqu'au début du 20ème siècle.
> Le remplacement a pour origine la défaite du Comte de Toulouse en 1212 qui a 
> permis à l'administration de l'Etat franc, puis français, puis républicain de 
> substituer ses usages (étape cruciale : l'édit de 1539 qui proscrit l'occitan 
> administratif).
> La langue français n'est pas en cause, seulement le confort d'une caste très 
> réduite qui a gagné la guerre et militaire et culturelle.
> Ce qui dépend de l'Etat, aucun souci : le COG ne sera jamais bilingue.
> Pour le reste qui dépend des communes, elles prescrivent l'affichage, mais, 
> presque jamais l'égalité juridique des appellations. 
C'est le point décisif qui empêche de faire un parallèle, car si nous 
connaissons l'Histoire, nous n'en faisons pas un élément de cartographie.


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[Talk-cz] Poštovní schránky Brno

[Miroslav Suchý]

Naimportoval jsem skoro všechny poštovní schránky v Brně.
Chybi posledních 15. Ty budou ale trvat asi déle, protože horší
přístupnost, nebo se tam brzo nedostanu. Pokud by mi chtěl některý z
brňáků pomoci, tak se jedná o:

BVV


Boby centrum
Hotel Santon (Bystrc)
Kubickova (Bystrc)
Kachlikova 6 (Bystrc)
Mácova 3, Ivanovice
Globus
Letiste Turany
Fryčajova 147, Brno - Obřany
Kociánka - Domov důchodců
Kociánka 2, Ústav soc. péče
pošta Brno 30, Dlouhá (bohunice)
Jihlavská - nemocnice, Brno - Bohunice
Husova - Hotel International
Plotní 57, Brno - Komárov

Jinak jsem používal výborný:
http://osm.kyralovi.cz/POI-Importer-testing/#map=13/49.2202/16.6076=CZECPbox;CZECPboxBrno

Pokud by to chtěl někdo po mě kontrolovat, tak v POI importeru je
několik false negativ - schránky jsou v mape, ale moc daleko od
souradnic ČP:

Bosonohy Vzhledna
Liskovec Svazna
Švermova - MHD
60010/244 - Posta Brno 8
Olympia
Růženin dvůr - MHD, Brno - Vinohrady
Jírova - konečná MHD
Tomkovo náměstí
Nejedlého

A nakonec je tam několik renonců - IMHO chyba v exportu ČP.

60010/725 - Není Turanska 2, ale roh Jubilejni 2 a Turanska 12
60010/210 - Kaminky 2 - tam je jenom neverejna modra schranka
60010/214 - Neni Oblá 277/9 ale, Oblá 518/75a
Libušina třída 3 - neni?
60010/226 - Neni Vltavska 1, ale roh Labska 1 a Vltavska 21
Ukrajinská 1 - neni?
60010/729 - Neni Drazni 2, ale Drazni 4 (ZST)
60010/405 - Kounicova 284/39, Veveří - tady fakt nic neni

Mirek

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing 850+ disambiguation errors

[Oleksiy Muzalyev]

I changed it a bit to show Wikidata items on the map which have no image 
10 km around an OSM object:


http://tinyurl.com/y8pqqcgu

It is not possible to select programmatically Wikipedia articles which 
have no image. i.e. which require an illustration, because Wikipedia 
article is just an HTML page which always contains images such as 
navigation icons, etc.

So it is a step in the right direction.



On 15.09.17 21:06, Yuri Astrakhan wrote:
I just wrote a simple query to help finding all wikidata objects next 
to a given OSM object.  Also, it is far better to delete a bad 
Wikipedia/Wikidata tags than to keep the incorrect ones.  Thanks for 
all the help!!!


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SPARQL_examples#Find_all_wikidata_items_near_the_specific_osm_object


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Re: [OSRM-talk] OSRM 5.11 Profile, setting range

[Frédéric Rodrigo]

Le 16/09/2017 à 17:32, Frank Durstewitz a écrit :

Hi.

I try to work on a custom profile (by distance: weight_name = 
'distance') based on car.lua from 5.11, which can use highway:track as 
a "last mile" for delivery, if no other possibility exists.



I run a profile for the same need.


Example:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=osrm_car=48.16613%2C11.25057%3B48.16802%2C11.25085#map=17/48.16743/11.25135 



The target is only reachable via a track (grade 1 or 2).

I already added "track" to the restricted_highway_whitelist and set 
the speed to 5. But setting the speed is not the correct way, as i 
understood, i should set a rate for tracks?


There is two ways to do this:
- use restricted class for track
- use rate to penalize track



To be clear: Tracks should on be used as last resort, if no other 
possibility exists to reach a destination.


The idea of last resort match the restricted class concept.

On my side I have chosen the second solution, the rate.



But where and how? Any example for that? I cannot find any hint how to 
set that.
I have published independently many part of my custom profile into 
github osrm contrib. But not this part... I was thinking it's 
oblivious... may be is not ;-)



Frédéric.


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Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura linee autobus

[Jo]

Ciao Marco,

Primo gli fermate en la ordine che passa il bus. Dopo tutte les strade dove
passa il bus en ordine e senza interrupzioni.

Se vuole fare un hangout o Skype, posso mostrare il plugin PT_Assistant e
JOSM. Aunque é piú facile per me se possiamo farlo in inglese.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIOXVFq_dQdrkPxcF--dfcA/videos

Polyglot

2017-09-16 16:43 GMT+02:00 marco zampiva :

> Buongiorno a tutti,
>
> guardando sia la documentazione sia quanto mappato in Italia vedo che in
> alcuni casi la relazione che descrive una linea di bus contiene all’inizio
> le fermate e di seguito il percorso, in altri casi succede il contrario
> prima il percorso e poi le fermata.
>
> Le due modalità di mappatura sono equivalenti oppure ci sono dei motivi
> per preferirne una rispetto all’altra?
>
> Saluti
>
> Marco
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Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura linee autobus

[Simone Saviolo]

Il giorno 16 settembre 2017 16:43, marco zampiva  ha
scritto:

> Buongiorno a tutti,
>
> guardando sia la documentazione sia quanto mappato in Italia vedo che in
> alcuni casi la relazione che descrive una linea di bus contiene all’inizio
> le fermate e di seguito il percorso, in altri casi succede il contrario
> prima il percorso e poi le fermata.
>
> Le due modalità di mappatura sono equivalenti oppure ci sono dei motivi
> per preferirne una rispetto all’altra?
>

Che io sappia, l'ordine dei membri nella relazione non ha alcuna
importanza.

Ciao,

Simone
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[OSRM-talk] OSRM 5.11 Profile, setting range

[Frank Durstewitz]

Hi.

I try to work on a custom profile (by distance: weight_name = 
'distance') based on car.lua from 5.11, which can use highway:track as a 
"last mile" for delivery, if no other possibility exists.


Example:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=osrm_car=48.16613%2C11.25057%3B48.16802%2C11.25085#map=17/48.16743/11.25135

The target is only reachable via a track (grade 1 or 2).

I already added "track" to the restricted_highway_whitelist and set the 
speed to 5. But setting the speed is not the correct way, as i 
understood, i should set a rate for tracks?


To be clear: Tracks should on be used as last resort, if no other 
possibility exists to reach a destination.


But where and how? Any example for that? I cannot find any hint how to 
set that.


Anybody?


Kindly regards, Frank

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[Talk-it] Mappatura linee autobus

[marco zampiva]

Buongiorno a tutti,

guardando sia la documentazione sia quanto mappato in Italia vedo che in
alcuni casi la relazione che descrive una linea di bus contiene all’inizio
le fermate e di seguito il percorso, in altri casi succede il contrario
prima il percorso e poi le fermata.

Le due modalità di mappatura sono equivalenti oppure ci sono dei motivi per
preferirne una rispetto all’altra?

Saluti

Marco

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[OSM-ja] GT-820 Pro のデータが取り出せない

[ribbon]

もしもどなたか解決方法をご存じの方がいればと思い、投稿します。

igotu GT-820 Pro を使ってGPSデータを取りました。

このデータを抜き出そうとしているのですがうまくいきません。

環境は Windows 10 で、専用のツール @trip を使っています。
ツールのバージョンは Ver 5.1 (Build  1612.2045) です。
USB接続でGT-820 ProをPCに繋げたのですが、ツールがデバイスを認識しません。

4月頃はちゃんと出来ていたのですが。

試しにWindows7 にツールを入れてみると問題なく動きます。
ただ、ダウンロードしてきたツールのバージョンは Ver 5.1 (Build 1606.361) です。

@trip のバージョン 5.1 (Build 1612.2045) で、かつ、Windows 10で
うまく GT-820 Proからデータを取り出せている方いらっしゃるでしょうか。

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Re: [Talk-cz] Maps.me zobrazení dánic

[Michal Poupa]

Je to "doprava" ale ty data vstupní jsou teda hodně divoké...


16. 9. 2017 v 14:49, Jan Martinec :

> Není to třeba placený / neplacený úsek? 
> 
> Zdar,
> HPM 
> 
> Dne 16. 9. 2017 14:21 napsal uživatel "Michal Poupa" :
> Proč je dálnice v maps.me takto divně barevná?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michal
> 
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Re: [Talk-cz] Import poštovních schránek - máme id schránky!

[Marián Kyral]

Dne 16.9.2017 v 10:44 Miroslav Suchý napsal(a):
> Dne 3.8.2017 v 21:56 Marián Kyral napsal(a):
>> Je to první nástřel, formát ref klidně změním. I když lomítko se mi líbí
>> více. I další připomínky jsou vítány.
> Tak jak? Ja teda stale pouzivam dvojtecku, ktera tu padla prvni a je
> stale na wiki.
> Me osobne to je jedno. Ale primlouval bych se aby na wiki a v POI
> importeru byla stejna hodnota a aby nekdo provedl hromadnou opravu toho
> "spatneho".
>
> Mirek
>
>

OK, tak tam dám dvojtečku.

Marián

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[Talk-ca] Rideau River Regulations and Hazard Land Mapping Ontario

[john whelan]

Dunno if any one lives in Manotick Ontario but this might be of interest.


*Rideau River Mapping Public Open House *Wednesday, September 27, 2017
4:30 to 7:30 p.m.
Rideau Valley Conservation Centre
3889 Rideau Valley Drive
Manotick, ON

https://www.rvca.ca/media-releases/rideau-river-regulations-and-hazard-land-mapping-public-open-houses-2

Cheerio John
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Re: [Talk-cz] Maps.me zobrazení dánic

[Jan Martinec]

Není to třeba placený / neplacený úsek?

Zdar,
HPM

Dne 16. 9. 2017 14:21 napsal uživatel "Michal Poupa" :

Proč je dálnice v maps.me takto divně barevná?




Michal


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Re: [Talk-ht] [Hot-francophone] HOT Activation for Irma

[Philippe Verdy]

Je fais le suivi en ce moment sur le wiki (et pas seulement) pour Ies trois
projets HOT :
- 2017 Hurricane Irma
- 2017 Mexico Earthquake
- 2017 South East Asia Floods
Les tâches sont listées (certaines cachées en HTML tant qu'elles ne sont
pas activées par la gestion concertée HOT des priorités avec les comunautés
locales)

Notez que HOT a encore besoin de monde sur la coordination via
https://hotosm.slack.com/
(il y a différents fils de discussion mais c'est archivé, éditable comme un
forum, on peut poster des liens, du code, parler de tous les outils :  je
trouve cet outils Slack fort pratique !)

Au passage la traduction française de la page wiki est faite par mes soins
concernant Irma (je n'ai pas attendu de voir cette demande ici).

De même que la page récente d'instructions basiques pour débutants (qui
résulte d'une discussion sur Slack) : routes, chemins, rivières, bâtiments.
Tout projet HOT d'urgence commence par identifier les zones résidentielles

Puis la génération d'un polygone GeoJSON pour importer dans le
Gestionnaires de tâches HOT, puis annoter les métadonnées (cela ne se fait
que par les admins de projets HOT) avant de discuter du niveau de priorité
et du détail de ce qu'il faut demander. Au passage on doit vérifier avant
publication que les routes/rues sont correctement alignées au besoin on
doit indiquer quelle source d'imagerie serait préférable, et on fait une
carto sommaire). Ensuite le projet est publié (c'est là qu'on s'intéressera
alors aux bâtiments). Là on doit le rendre visible sur le wiki où on liste
les tâches prêtes à faire ou partiellement réalisées.

La tâche HOT publiée demande à être validée et il faut des contributeurs
pour fouiller les détails demandés qui manquent mais ne pas perdre trop de
temps sur des détails invérifiables sur l'imagerie. On peut en revanche si
on a la connaissance s'intéresser à la localisation précise des équipements
liés à l'urgence encours (y compris les administrations, centres de
secours, hôpitaux) et aussi des points d'eau. Pour les inondations,
identifier les cours d'eau est important de même que les ponts passant
dessus pour les routes importantes non agricoles reliant les villes et
villages, mais pas la peine de passer trop de temps sur les riverbanks.

Le premier objet d'une projet HOT c'est l'urgence aux populations (et
notamment là où les besoins explosent le plus dans les villes et villages
débordés par la situation).



2017-09-08 8:42 GMT+02:00 Violaine Doutreleau :

> Bonjour à tous,
>
> Vous l'avez peut-être compris, HOT a lancé une réponse d'urgence pour
> l'ouragan Irma. Vous retrouverez les projets concernés sur le Tasking
> Manager de HOT : http://tasks.hotosm.org
>
> Pour rejoindre la coordination globale, les volontaires se retrouvent sur
> le canal #disaster-mapping du slack de HOT : https://hotosm-slack.
> herokuapp.com/, cliquer sur 'channels' puis #disaster-mapping
>
> Pour les infos sur l'activation : https://wiki.openstreetmap.
> org/wiki/2017_Hurricane_Irma
>
> Je traduit rapidement Blake " Nous avons besoin d'aide à la traduction
> pour le wiki.
>
> Le message le plus important que nous souhaitons transmettre est que nous
> souhaitons soutenir la cartographie locale et non pas créer de conflit
> accidentel avec vos activations locales. Le leadership local est
> prioritaire et Haiti en a un chouette (petite touche de fantaisie),
> faites-nous savoir ce qui est le mieux pour vous"
>
> Bonne journée à tous,
>
> Violaine
> Le 08/09/2017 à 02:24, Blake Girardot a écrit :
>
> Greetings,
>
> I apologize, the French version of this will follow shortly, but I
> wanted to get this to you as soon as possible so I went forward in
> English.
>
> HOT has officially activated for Hurricane Irma and we are
> coordinating in our slack team, in English, in the #disaster-mapping
> channel.
>
> You can join HOT's slack by visiting this link:
> https://hotosm-slack.herokuapp.com/
>
> Once you join the slack, you will type /join #disaster-mapping
>
> And you will be in the coordination channel for HOT's activation.
>
> The full details and a link to the umap of our Irma project footprints
> can be found on the response wiki page:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2017_Hurricane_Irma
>
> We also need translation help with the wiki entry.
>
> The most important message is we want to support local mapping and not
> accidentally conflict with your local lead mapping. Local leadership
> is best and Haiti has great local leadership, please let us know what
> is best for you.
>
> As I said, French version to follow, or if anyone would like to
> translate this and send it we would be very grateful.
>
> Respectfully,
> blake
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-cz] OdBL a komercni vyuziti mapy Re: Import dat do QGisu

[Pavel Machek]

On Fri 2017-09-15 09:50:46, Vladimír Semotán wrote:
> Ahoj,
> díky za reakci. Ten termín "derivative database" je dost zavádějící. Jsou
> to SHP soubory, které vytvořím z OSM, případně ještě upravím? Asi
> ano.

Urcite.

> Ale
> jsou to i 3D terény, které vygenerujeme?

Nejspis ano.

> Jsou v interním binárním formátu
> určeným pro rendering, který je ostatním v podstatě k ničemu. Rozhodně to
> budeme ještě řešit.

Tak kdyz jsou ostatnim k nicemu, tak proc je nepublikovat?
:-). Kazdopadne tohle je pro pravniky.
Pavel


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Re: [talk-au] Interchanges

[Warin]

To me they are not tourist things.

They are navigation things that 'we' use to signify where to turn or go 
straight on ... so usefull for navigation.
There was some talk about named highway junctions or was it traffic 
lights being used in Japan .. will have to look that up.
If there are no suitable highway tags then place=* might be best? Don't 
know.


On 16-Sep-17 05:25 PM, Ben Kelley wrote:

I agree. highway=motorway_junction is to mark where you exit the motorway.

An aside: Exits from the Hume Motorway/M5 have exit numbers now as you 
approach Sydney.


   - Ben.

On 16 Sep 2017 4:58 p.m., "Andrew Harvey" > wrote:


In Sydney there are a few named interchanges which have a mix of tags
(highway=motorway_junction, tourism=attraction, place=locality), they
are all the same thing so I'd like to determine the best tags to use.

Calga Interchange
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4860741425


Sir Roden Cutler VC Memorial Interchange
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2130503470


Light Horse Interchange
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2130503373


Pearces Corner
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4860741524

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/937430705


Top Ryde Junction
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4860741431


Meccano Set
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4860741423

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/390666005


The wiki page for highway=motorway_junction
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ahighway%3Dmotorway_junction

is more about exit points along a motorway which may have a name or
number (ref), not so much for an interchange. So I don't think this is
the right tag to use. Plus JOSM warns it must be connected to the way,
which further confirms it's the wrong tag.

The proposed feature highway=junction
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway%3Djunction

looks like it's mapping out interchanges, so it seems like a better
tag, but it is less commonly used and still proposed. I'd prefer to
change them all to highway=junction, and better yet convert them to
areas.

I think it's fine to use tourism=attraction where it is such, like
Meccano Set, but it seems a bit of a stretch... Though this shouldn't
be the only tag.

What does everyone else think?



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Re: [Talk-it] FOSS4G-IT 2018

[Maurizio Napolitano]

Volevo capire meglio i vincoli per inviare una proposta per al
giornata dedicata a OpenStreetMap.
Da quello che leggo qui

"Si attendono contributi su esperienze sullo sviluppo di software
geografici free e open source, sulla creazione di dati geografici
liberi e sull'utilizzo di questi due elementi nei diversi ambiti
applicativi tra cui la gestione e analisi dei diversi dati
territoriali oggi disponibili, la modellazione spazio-temporale ed
analisi dei fenomeni naturali, la pianificazione, gestione e
monitoraggio del territorio con le sue infrastrutture, il contributo
dei cittadini sensori e della formazione. I lavori sottomessi possono
arrivare da qualsiasi tipo di esperienza sia essa accademica,
commerciale o di volontariato"

devo dedurre che la giornata del 22 seguirà gli stessi vincoli con la
sola differenza che i dati o le mappe usate siano quelle di
OpenStreetMap.

Dico bene?

Infine volevo capire da chi è composto il comitato scientifico perchè,
sul sito, ci sono i loghi di enti o associazioni, ma non i nomi delle
persone. Inoltre, sappiamo bene, che dire Wikimedia Italia vuol dire
anche OpenStreetMap Italia quindi i loghi - visti come comitato
scientifico - appaiono ridondanti.

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Re: [Talk-it] Date e mappe OSM e compatibilità con licenze commerciali

[Maurizio Napolitano]

2017-09-16 11:34 GMT+02:00 mircozorzo :
> Ciao, un addetto ai lavori mi ha detto che la licenza "della mappa" non è
> compatibile con licenze commerciali ad es. pubblicazione su libri.
>
>
> A me non risulta affatto, voi sapete dove ottenere informazioni ufficiali?

Chiaramente è sbagliato.
Se vuole pubblicare la mappa su un libro deve solo riportare il fatto
che la mappa è stata fatta con i dati di openstreetmap.
Basta che questo addetto ai lavori apra gli occhi e segua il link
'copyright' sul sito principale
http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright

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Re: [Talk-at] Es geht alles gegen null

[Richard]

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 04:46:30PM +0200, Friedrich Volkmann wrote:

> Darum kann ich der Idee schon etwas abgewinnen, dass Edits, zumindest wenn
> sie einen bestimmten Auffälligkeits-Score (s.o.) übersteigen, erst durch
> einen Experten freigegeben werden müssen, sofern sich für das Thema oder das
> Gebiet ein Experte dafür bereit erklärt hat.

die Idee mit dem Score finde ich nicht schlecht. Anstatt eines einzelnen
Experten könnte ich mir auch vorstellen, daß sich alternativ mehrere erfahrene 
User mit beschränkten Ortskentnissen äussern mit feedback wie "needinfo" oder 
"verdächtig bis gut" auf einer Skala -5..+5

Das würde die einzelnen Experten entlasten in Fällen wo leicht erkennbare
technische Fehler vorliegen und selbst für Gebiete wo keine Experten sind
(sind wohl die meisten?) etwas mehr "common sense" walten lassen.

Technisch sehe ich das Problem wie man die "pending edits" verwaltet wenn 
ein anderer User die selben Objekte in der Zwischenzeit bearbeiten möchte. 
Vielleicht sollte amn diesen dazu verdammen erstmal seine Meinung über den 
pending edit abzugeben?


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Re: [Talk-it] Date e mappe OSM e compatibilità con licenze commerciali

[girarsi_liste]

Il 16/09/2017 11:34, mircozorzo ha scritto:
> Ciao, un addetto ai lavori mi ha detto che la licenza "della mappa" non è
> compatibile con licenze commerciali ad es. pubblicazione su libri.
> 
> 
> A me non risulta affatto, voi sapete dove ottenere informazioni ufficiali?
> 
> Grazie, Mirco
> 

Che rimanda alla rispettiva pagina wiki:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Commercial_OSM_Software_and_Services


Ricordo anche discussioni, appena le trovo le riporto.



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Re: [Talk-it] Date e mappe OSM e compatibilità con licenze commerciali

[girarsi_liste]

Il 16/09/2017 11:34, mircozorzo ha scritto:
> Ciao, un addetto ai lavori mi ha detto che la licenza "della mappa" non è
> compatibile con licenze commerciali ad es. pubblicazione su libri.
> 
> 
> A me non risulta affatto, voi sapete dove ottenere informazioni ufficiali?
> 
> Grazie, Mirco
> 
> 


Ai titoli "Ci sono dei vincoli nell’usare i dati OpenStreetMap?", e,
"Offrite servizi di consulenza o commerciali?", al link:

https://blog.openstreetmap.org/faq-domande-frequenti/?lang=it




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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM Ireland chapter - reboot

[Brian Hollinshead]

Hi Dave and others
I am interested to attend as well

On 14 August 2017 at 02:52, Dave Corley  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> First, I want to apologise, this is a long email, but if you are at all
> interested in moving OSM in Ireland to the next level, please read on and
> give your feedback when you're done.
>
> Efforts to get the OSM Ireland group set up as a legal entity and
> established as a recognised chapter have never really got out of the
> starting blocks for us, mainly because it's an exceptionally long, boring
> process to get it all done.
>
> Back when Rory gave the Townlands presentation at a Sotm or two ago, I
> contacted everyone who took part and asked a number of questions to allow
> for some stats to be included in the presentation. I asked a few questions
> specifically around the topic of setting something up properly. If I recall
> correctly, all but one were interested in joining an official OSM Ireland,
> but less than half wanted to be involved in setting it up. But that ratio
> is to be expected. If I'm honest, it was a lot higher than I originally
> expected.
>
> What I would love to see is a functioning OSM Ireland body which, at an
> absolute minimum, could do the following
>
>- Scheduling regular meet up's - These would have some organisation
>around them e.g. guest speakers, break out groups, objectives etc. This
>could be monthly, bi-monthly or quarterly, doesn't matter, just even
>setting up a schedule and sticking to it would be a great achievement
>- Work on increasing the qty of daily contributors - Some simple things
>like automating messages to first time mappers, or a tool to ensure
> every
>new contributor's edits are reviewed for accuracy/vandalism etc.
> Basically,
>just setting up some structure around it to ensure we engage with new
> folks
>in the most efficient and effective ways possible. I see no reason why a
>number of 50 a day shouldn't be achievable within an 18 month period if
>this is done right.
>- Setting up an Import strategy - There is an ever growing pool of open
>data being released. To make full use of it is going to require a
>signficant body of up-front work (selecting, categorising, prioritising,
>tools and import process).
>- Lining up other, structured, mapping tasks - For example doing a 1
>month blitz on lane mapping, or a 3 month clean-up of errors using Osmi
> or
>keepright etc etc etc. We did this with the enormous townland mapping
>project. Smaller scale versions, with a little work, could have a real,
>lasting impact on the map
>- Commiting to organising a State of the Map yearly. This doesn't need
>to have a load of bells and whistles, hell, year one would likely be one
>day, but it has to be possible to get a 2 day conference going within 2
>years, whatever format it may take (barcamp, unconference etc). There's
>enough going on now between mappers, govt, commercial and academic folks
>that is easily within reach.
>- Lastly, getting out of Dublin. I know Dublin has the biggest
>population of mappers, but what about having the meetup in a location
>outside of Dub once or twice a year. Or there could be a night away
> where
>we do a load of ground work on the basemap first, then hit the ground
> in a
>town and get every street name, address, business and attraction all in
> one
>day, then meet back somewhere, have a bite to eat and a few drinks.
>
> In my head, I'm seeing each of those things needing 2-3 people to work on
> them, i.e. working groups, to ensure nobody gets left holding the bag and
> to avoid burnout.
>
> Now, I'd like to say, all of the above is purely what *I* think OSM Ireland
> should be about. Others may feel differently, and that's totally fine. It's
> kind of the point of this email :)
>
> With all of that in mind, to get us formally set up, what I am proposing is
> the following
>
> 1. A meeting in early Sept  (the 2nd or the 9th) where we will come
> together to hammer out a lot of the basics of setting up OSM Ireland. Note,
> this will involve people coming together, agreeing on the structure and,
> most importantly, some people agreeing to take some work e.g. research
> whats involved in setting up a bank account, what are the legal
> requirements, how will we manage membership, etc etc
>
> 2. A second meeting in early Oct where the majority of the structure is
> locked down. Work to start on Articles of Association etc if required at
> this point. Again, some people would need to agree to take on some tasks to
> keep the process moving.
>
> 3. A third meeting in Nov and a fourth in Dec, to lock down any last
> elements. At this point we would need to agree a provisional board
> probably, to allow for paperwork to proceed for banks, govt. etc. Note,
> this board would step down at the first general meeting of OSM Ireland and
> elections would be held at that first meeting.

[Talk-it] Date e mappe OSM e compatibilità con licenze commerciali

[mircozorzo]

Ciao, un addetto ai lavori mi ha detto che la licenza "della mappa" non è
compatibile con licenze commerciali ad es. pubblicazione su libri.


A me non risulta affatto, voi sapete dove ottenere informazioni ufficiali?

Grazie, Mirco



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Re: [Talk-cz] Import poštovních schránek - máme id schránky!

[majka]

Osobně je mi to taky jedno a hromadnou opravu případně provedu.

Dne 16. 9. 2017 10:45 dop. napsal uživatel "Miroslav Suchý" <
miros...@suchy.cz>:

> Dne 3.8.2017 v 21:56 Marián Kyral napsal(a):
> > Je to první nástřel, formát ref klidně změním. I když lomítko se mi líbí
> > více. I další připomínky jsou vítány.
>
> Tak jak? Ja teda stale pouzivam dvojtecku, ktera tu padla prvni a je
> stale na wiki.
> Me osobne to je jedno. Ale primlouval bych se aby na wiki a v POI
> importeru byla stejna hodnota a aby nekdo provedl hromadnou opravu toho
> "spatneho".
>
> Mirek
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Re: [Talk-cz] Import poštovních schránek - máme id schránky!

[Miroslav Suchý]

Dne 3.8.2017 v 21:56 Marián Kyral napsal(a):
> Je to první nástřel, formát ref klidně změním. I když lomítko se mi líbí
> více. I další připomínky jsou vítány.

Tak jak? Ja teda stale pouzivam dvojtecku, ktera tu padla prvni a je
stale na wiki.
Me osobne to je jedno. Ale primlouval bych se aby na wiki a v POI
importeru byla stejna hodnota a aby nekdo provedl hromadnou opravu toho
"spatneho".

Mirek

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Re: [Talk-it] nuovi tag per idrante e correlato, era Idrante, forse, di colore blu

[girarsi_liste]

Il 16/09/2017 10:23, denis_dand...@inwind.it ha scritto:
> No quasi sempre diversi. (Es. Idrante pentagono, tappo spanner)
> 
> Il 16 set 2017 09:53, girarsi_liste  ha scritto:
> 
> Ma di solito le chiavi non sono le stesse sia per i coperchi che per la
> valvola di apertura? perchè in tal caso non ha senso distinguere il
> dettaglio, almeno per me.

Tanto per sempificare la vita a tutti... immagino.

Ok, adesso ho capito il discorso tag differenziati, grazie.


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Re: [Talk-it] nuovi tag per idrante e correlato, era Idrante, forse, di colore blu

[denis_dandrea]

No quasi sempre diversi. (Es. Idrante pentagono, tappo spanner)Il 16 set 2017 09:53, girarsi_liste  ha scritto:
Ma di solito le chiavi non sono le stesse sia per i coperchi che per la
valvola di apertura? perchè in tal caso non ha senso distinguere il
dettaglio, almeno per me.
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Re: [Talk-it] nuovi tag per idrante e correlato, era Idrante, forse, di colore blu

[girarsi_liste]

Il 15/09/2017 22:14, denis_dand...@inwind.it ha scritto:
> Intanto chiedo venia per il cambio discussione. Starò più attento.
> Alberto non credo di essere nella lista di tagging ma non so nemmeno cosa 
> sia. 
> COmunque per ora faccio gi abbastanza danni qui ;-) e preferisco fare un 
> passo 
> alla volta. Nel frattempo studio... e approfitto del fatto che mi anticipi :)
> Per la licenza intendevo CC0. Per ora preparo le immagini con le descrizioni 
> ma per caricarle in Wiki prima ci studio
> Dario ti dò ragione. Se ho capito bene diventa un elemto diverso dagli 
> idranti 
> come per Serbatoi d'acqua emergency=water_tank il che  corretto. Oltre al 
> coupling servirebbe anche un cap:wrench
> Grazie per il supporto
> Ciao
> Denis
> 

Ma di solito le chiavi non sono le stesse sia per i coperchi che per la
valvola di apertura? perchè in tal caso non ha senso distinguere il
dettaglio, almeno per me.



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Re: [talk-au] Interchanges

[Ben Kelley]

I agree. highway=motorway_junction is to mark where you exit the motorway.

An aside: Exits from the Hume Motorway/M5 have exit numbers now as you
approach Sydney.

   - Ben.

On 16 Sep 2017 4:58 p.m., "Andrew Harvey"  wrote:

In Sydney there are a few named interchanges which have a mix of tags
(highway=motorway_junction, tourism=attraction, place=locality), they
are all the same thing so I'd like to determine the best tags to use.

Calga Interchange
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4860741425

Sir Roden Cutler VC Memorial Interchange
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2130503470

Light Horse Interchange
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2130503373

Pearces Corner
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4860741524
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/937430705

Top Ryde Junction
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4860741431

Meccano Set
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4860741423
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/390666005

The wiki page for highway=motorway_junction
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ahighway%3Dmotorway_junction
is more about exit points along a motorway which may have a name or
number (ref), not so much for an interchange. So I don't think this is
the right tag to use. Plus JOSM warns it must be connected to the way,
which further confirms it's the wrong tag.

The proposed feature highway=junction
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway%3Djunction
looks like it's mapping out interchanges, so it seems like a better
tag, but it is less commonly used and still proposed. I'd prefer to
change them all to highway=junction, and better yet convert them to
areas.

I think it's fine to use tourism=attraction where it is such, like
Meccano Set, but it seems a bit of a stretch... Though this shouldn't
be the only tag.

What does everyone else think?

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[OSM-talk-fr] WhatOSM, un guide des outils de contributions

[PanierAvide]

Bonjour à tous,

Vous le savez, OSM dispose d'un écosystème d'outils très riche, qui 
permettent de réaliser des contributions sur des thématiques variées. 
Chaque contributeur a de quoi y trouver son compte, encore faut-il 
connaître les outils, et savoir où les trouver. Cela est 
particulièrement vrai pour les nouveaux contributeurs, qui n'ont pas les 
infos que l'on a pu voir passer après des années de veille.


Pour que chacun s'y retrouve, et puisse trouver rapidement un outil de 
contribution qui lui correspond, j'ai créé un petit guide interactif 
nommé WhatOSM. Il vous propose, en répondant à trois questions (votre 
niveau, le temps disponible, et si vous êtes dehors ou non), une liste 
d'outils pouvant vous intéresser. C'est ici :


http://projets.pavie.info/whatosm/

Ça peut aussi bien servir aux nouveaux contributeurs un peu perdus 
qu'aux contributeurs chevronnés qui ne savent plus quoi ajouter dans 
leur quartier. Ça peut avoir du sens de montrer ce genre d'outils lors 
de cartoparties ou de la tenue de stands. À noter que l'interface 
fonctionne aussi bien sur PC de bureau que sur smartphone.


Pour les amateurs de technique, le code source est ouvert et disponible 
ici :


https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/WhatOSM

Techniquement rien de fou, c'est du ReactJS avec un thème Material UI, 
la liste des projets disponibles est basée sur un système similaire à 
Taginfo (ensemble de fichiers JSON, un par projet).


Comme toujours, les suggestions et retours sont la bienvenue :-)

Cordialement,

Adrien.

--
PanierAvide
Géomaticien & développeur


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[talk-au] Interchanges

[Andrew Harvey]

In Sydney there are a few named interchanges which have a mix of tags
(highway=motorway_junction, tourism=attraction, place=locality), they
are all the same thing so I'd like to determine the best tags to use.

Calga Interchange
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4860741425

Sir Roden Cutler VC Memorial Interchange
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2130503470

Light Horse Interchange
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2130503373

Pearces Corner
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4860741524
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/937430705

Top Ryde Junction
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4860741431

Meccano Set
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4860741423
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/390666005

The wiki page for highway=motorway_junction
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ahighway%3Dmotorway_junction
is more about exit points along a motorway which may have a name or
number (ref), not so much for an interchange. So I don't think this is
the right tag to use. Plus JOSM warns it must be connected to the way,
which further confirms it's the wrong tag.

The proposed feature highway=junction
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway%3Djunction
looks like it's mapping out interchanges, so it seems like a better
tag, but it is less commonly used and still proposed. I'd prefer to
change them all to highway=junction, and better yet convert them to
areas.

I think it's fine to use tourism=attraction where it is such, like
Meccano Set, but it seems a bit of a stretch... Though this shouldn't
be the only tag.

What does everyone else think?

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